Anybody see O and A's "ratings"?

[SmashTim]

Tim this is so pointless. They tanked, period, and trying to blame jv and Elvis's one hour for it when their numbers actually went up is absurd. Starscream trying to spin how they went up in Philly and Boston, Boston it is known for a fact that they did not go anywhere but down. So much so that the PD of the competing station put out a press release about how his morning show beat O and A. I would post it here because it went to virtually the entire industry but it contains actual numbers and we're not allowed to post the actual numbers. the second it goes up the mods will take it down. Face it: The boys are not doing anything.

Again I did not blame JV & Elvis's show for O&A's drop. However, it is true that despite their increase their ratings are lower than O&A's, which means the 9-10 hour is lower rated than the 6-9 hours thereforethe 6-10 ratings are lower than what O&A's ratings are 6-9.

 

[Tony9000]

Tim this is so pointless. They tanked, period, and trying to blame jv and Elvis's one hour for it when their numbers actually went up is absurd. Starscream trying to spin how they went up in Philly and Boston, Boston it is known for a fact that they did not go anywhere but down. So much so that the PD of the competing station put out a press release about how his morning show beat O and A. I would post it here because it went to virtually the entire industry but it contains actual numbers and we're not allowed to post the actual numbers. the second it goes up the mods will take it down. Face it: The boys are not doing anything.

Again I did not blame JV & Elvis's show for O&A's drop. However, it is true that despite their increase their ratings are lower than O&A's, which means the 9-10 hour is lower rated than the 6-9 hours thereforethe 6-10 ratings are lower than what O&A's ratings are 6-9.

Only problem with that is that O & A were alot higher in the last book and JV and Elvis were lower then they were this book. JV and Elvis increase can only help the numbers and not hurt them in this book,

 

[SmashTim]

Tim this is so pointless. They tanked, period, and trying to blame jv and Elvis's one hour for it when their numbers actually went up is absurd. Starscream trying to spin how they went up in Philly and Boston, Boston it is known for a fact that they did not go anywhere but down. So much so that the PD of the competing station put out a press release about how his morning show beat O and A. I would post it here because it went to virtually the entire industry but it contains actual numbers and we're not allowed to post the actual numbers. the second it goes up the mods will take it down. Face it: The boys are not doing anything.

Again I did not blame JV & Elvis's show for O&A's drop. However, it is true that despite their increase their ratings are lower than O&A's, which means the 9-10 hour is lower rated than the 6-9 hours thereforethe 6-10 ratings are lower than what O&A's ratings are 6-9.

Only problem with that is that O & A were alot higher in the last book and JV and Elvis were lower then they were this book. JV and Elvis increase can only help the numbers and not hurt them in this book,

They don't impact the drop, but they still impact the actual numbers themselves.

 

[Tony9000]

Tim this is so pointless. They tanked, period, and trying to blame jv and Elvis's one hour for it when their numbers actually went up is absurd. Starscream trying to spin how they went up in Philly and Boston, Boston it is known for a fact that they did not go anywhere but down. So much so that the PD of the competing station put out a press release about how his morning show beat O and A. I would post it here because it went to virtually the entire industry but it contains actual numbers and we're not allowed to post the actual numbers. the second it goes up the mods will take it down. Face it: The boys are not doing anything.

Again I did not blame JV & Elvis's show for O&A's drop. However, it is true that despite their increase their ratings are lower than O&A's, which means the 9-10 hour is lower rated than the 6-9 hours thereforethe 6-10 ratings are lower than what O&A's ratings are 6-9.

Only problem with that is that O & A were alot higher in the last book and JV and Elvis were lower then they were this book. JV and Elvis increase can only help the numbers and not hurt them in this book,

They don't impact the drop, but they still impact the actual numbers themselves.

I agree with you on that, but a 40% drop( O & A ) and a Dog House increase of 30%+ does not work no matter how you want to slice it.

 

[SmashTim]

Tim this is so pointless. They tanked, period, and trying to blame jv and Elvis's one hour for it when their numbers actually went up is absurd. Starscream trying to spin how they went up in Philly and Boston, Boston it is known for a fact that they did not go anywhere but down. So much so that the PD of the competing station put out a press release about how his morning show beat O and A. I would post it here because it went to virtually the entire industry but it contains actual numbers and we're not allowed to post the actual numbers. the second it goes up the mods will take it down. Face it: The boys are not doing anything.

Again I did not blame JV & Elvis's show for O&A's drop. However, it is true that despite their increase their ratings are lower than O&A's, which means the 9-10 hour is lower rated than the 6-9 hours thereforethe 6-10 ratings are lower than what O&A's ratings are 6-9.

Only problem with that is that O & A were alot higher in the last book and JV and Elvis were lower then they were this book. JV and Elvis increase can only help the numbers and not hurt them in this book,

They don't impact the drop, but they still impact the actual numbers themselves.

I agree with you on that, but a 40% drop( O & A ) and a Dog House increase of 30%+ does not work no matter how you want to slice it.

Yes, but even with O&A's drop and JV & Elvis's increase, JV & elvis's #'s are still below O&A's. The numbers from 6-9 are still higher than the numbers from 9-10 so the 6-10 ratings are lower than 6-9, To put it another way if O&A were rated soley based on the times they are on the air, they would be higher than the 1.6 they had, overall and higher than the demos are sown to be. However, their drop would have been larger as well. It may have been a drop from a drop of .7 or .8 from something like a 2.6 to a 1.9 or 1.8 or something to that effect instead of a .6 drop from 2.2 to 1.6.

 

[Tony9000]

Tim this is so pointless. They tanked, period, and trying to blame jv and Elvis's one hour for it when their numbers actually went up is absurd. Starscream trying to spin how they went up in Philly and Boston, Boston it is known for a fact that they did not go anywhere but down. So much so that the PD of the competing station put out a press release about how his morning show beat O and A. I would post it here because it went to virtually the entire industry but it contains actual numbers and we're not allowed to post the actual numbers. the second it goes up the mods will take it down. Face it: The boys are not doing anything.

Again I did not blame JV & Elvis's show for O&A's drop. However, it is true that despite their increase their ratings are lower than O&A's, which means the 9-10 hour is lower rated than the 6-9 hours thereforethe 6-10 ratings are lower than what O&A's ratings are 6-9.

Only problem with that is that O & A were alot higher in the last book and JV and Elvis were lower then they were this book. JV and Elvis increase can only help the numbers and not hurt them in this book,

They don't impact the drop, but they still impact the actual numbers themselves.

I agree with you on that, but a 40% drop( O & A ) and a Dog House increase of 30%+ does not work no matter how you want to slice it.

Yes, but even with O&A's drop and JV & Elvis's increase, JV & elvis's #'s are still below O&A's. The numbers from 6-9 are still higher than the numbers from 9-10 so the 6-10 ratings are lower than 6-9, To put it another way if O&A were rated soley based on the times they are on the air, they would be higher than the 1.6 they had, overall and higher than the demos are sown to be. However, their drop would have been larger as well. It may have been a drop from a drop of .7 or .8 from something like a 2.6 to a 1.9 or 1.8 or something to that effect instead of a .6 drop from 2.2 to 1.6.

Are you for real....they are down and it is that simple. Let's no make this something that is is not. O & A have been around for sometime now and they should be showing better numbers. They lost 40% of the book and now you think that a show that has 1 hour of the show that increaseed 30+% is the problem, not going to happen...never ever. Your show tanks and you think the show that has a 30% incrrease is the reason....never going to happen

 

[SmashTim]

Tim this is so pointless. They tanked, period, and trying to blame jv and Elvis's one hour for it when their numbers actually went up is absurd. Starscream trying to spin how they went up in Philly and Boston, Boston it is known for a fact that they did not go anywhere but down. So much so that the PD of the competing station put out a press release about how his morning show beat O and A. I would post it here because it went to virtually the entire industry but it contains actual numbers and we're not allowed to post the actual numbers. the second it goes up the mods will take it down. Face it: The boys are not doing anything.

Again I did not blame JV & Elvis's show for O&A's drop. However, it is true that despite their increase their ratings are lower than O&A's, which means the 9-10 hour is lower rated than the 6-9 hours thereforethe 6-10 ratings are lower than what O&A's ratings are 6-9.

Only problem with that is that O & A were alot higher in the last book and JV and Elvis were lower then they were this book. JV and Elvis increase can only help the numbers and not hurt them in this book,

They don't impact the drop, but they still impact the actual numbers themselves.

I agree with you on that, but a 40% drop( O & A ) and a Dog House increase of 30%+ does not work no matter how you want to slice it.

Yes, but even with O&A's drop and JV & Elvis's increase, JV & elvis's #'s are still below O&A's. The numbers from 6-9 are still higher than the numbers from 9-10 so the 6-10 ratings are lower than 6-9, To put it another way if O&A were rated soley based on the times they are on the air, they would be higher than the 1.6 they had, overall and higher than the demos are sown to be. However, their drop would have been larger as well. It may have been a drop from a drop of .7 or .8 from something like a 2.6 to a 1.9 or 1.8 or something to that effect instead of a .6 drop from 2.2 to 1.6.

Are you for real....they are down and it is that simple. Let's no make this something that is is not. O & A have been around for sometime now and they should be showing better numbers. They lost 40% of the book and now you think that a show that has 1 hour of the show that increaseed 30+% is the problem, not going to happen...never ever. Your show tanks and you think the show that has a 30% incrrease is the reason....never going to happen

Re-read what I posted

I'm not blaming JV & Elvis for O&A going down. When did I say that?? Never.

What I said is the actual numbers when O&A are on the air, 1.6 12 + and so on are higher than they appear. Thats what I said. My point regarding JV & Elvis has NOTHING to do with O&A's drop, NOTHING. it has to do with the core numbers you see in the ratings book, being 21st and ranked 1.6. Those are the numbers that are slightly higher than they appear because JV & Elvis, despite their increase end O&A's decrease are still lower than O&A. This is something that happens every single book, because O&A are not on the entire morning rating period. In fact the impact as far as pure numbers goes was obviously higher last book, as the difference between O&A andsd JV & Elvis was larger than it was this time.

JV & Elvis did not have an impact in O&A's drop, nor did they have an impact in the amount O&S dropped (if anything I will admit they may have cushioned it a tad). However, because of the 9-10 hour which is lower rated than the 6-9 hours, the ratings for O&A morning drive was slightly lower than it would have been if just the time O&A on the air were counted.

For example.. lets just say this (which is possible based off the info we know about the ratings)

Summer 06
6-7 7-8 8-9 9-10
2.6 2.8 2.7 .7

Morning drive average 2.2, average with O&A on the air 2.7

Fall 06
6-7 7-8 8-9 9-10
1.8 2.0 1.9 .9

Morning drive average 1.6, average with O&A on the air 1.9

Shows a sharp decrease in O&A's ratings as well as a about a 30% increase for JV & Elvis (29% for the 9-10 ). the drop is still there, and the drop is obviously because of O&A and not JV & Elvis, however the actual core numbers in morning drive are lower than the numbers while O&A are actually on the air because the 9-10 hour is the lowest rated hour.

 

[phillycheesesteak941]

you have to love that o & a bash everyone about their ratings but when o & a themselves get killed in every market they don't bring it up. they say they are the most honest radio show but that is a lie. they got killed in every city including the mainstays, nyc, philly and boston. but they will say its all howard's fault. nice to see that leno and letterman can't get the slobs higher in the ratings.

 

[TowerBuzz]

Their real problem is the cume which has been established has always been low but very loyal. PEOPLE ARE NOT LISTENING TO THEM, look at the NY numbers. The rumor is that Radio chick's cume is higher than theirs!

That is a real sign of a problem.

 

[feeball]

Everyone is pointing fingers and blaming everyone else. Simply put, Free FM is a horrible format, O&A can phone the show in, ratings for the entire Free FM franchise have been laughable, and yet CBS Radio wants to kill off more rock formats for the toxic talker.

A lot of people need to be fired over this one.

 

[4dude]

They cant ever be as good as radio as they can be on an OFF AIR system....

3 Letters is why......

F. C. C.

They think they own the airwaves and can control it at will!!

 

[jestin]

I live out west and listen to O and A on satelite... there show is ok best thing going as I live in the SF bay area. How ever th Free Fm station here really stinks would love to see the DogHouse take over mornings. They could run the show East Coast 9-12 and west cost 6-10 (1 hr dedicated out west). I would actually much rather see the Dogs Get mornings in NewYork. I think O & A are great on XM and sub Par on CBS. They don't seem to want to be there. They need to quit whinning about the restrictions and start figuring out how to beat the system ( i thought this was the way they rolled).

This comes from the target Demo 28/m with a 80,000 a year job. I wish CBS would SAVE SF RADIO....

 

[ner06]

They cant ever be as good as radio as they can be on an OFF AIR system....

3 Letters is why......

F. C. C.

They think they own the airwaves and can control it at will!!

I think if O and A is talented and creative enough FCC shouldn't be a valid point why their show couldnt get a ratings or a new listeners. Radio has evolved, funny how they ripped on Mancow before, I think they are on the same boat. If they can't adjust for terrestial radio, they might just as well "TAKE THE MONE AND RUN" and stay in XM.

 

[Big Daddy Matt]

where oh where is dear starscream to stick up for board op and sometimes funny????

 

[NewRules]

Anybody see O and A's "ratings"?

Remember! They were busting on Whoopie and how she was going to fail miserably. Im sure someone at KTU is laughing her big B ass off! ;D ;D

They need to find an obscure 50's sex ed video to talk about for two weeks to get above that 2.0 rating. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

How about playing the Happy Song or I Saw the Sign a few more times during the course of a show?

As Artie from The Garry Shandling Show used to say, "Major Talent, Major Talent!"

 

[NewRules]

The whole issue of which Radio Team should be in the morning slot: O and A versus the Doghouse should be settled by the two major symbols of both shows. Big Daddy Matt for the Doghouse Team. Pat for Moonachie for O and A. Winner take all in a food gorging/ beer drinking (not water, thats dangerous) competition. In case of a tie, sexual size and longevity will be tiebreaking criteria.