I know a lot of people in this business who were at one time amongst "the best people in radio". Unfortunately the industry has changed in so many ways that some of those people are now doing things that they would have never dreamed of doing before. Let's face it, it's not the same business it was 5, 10 or even 15 years ago. I know Rutland has had many dedicated & hard working radio folks, but since the corporations started moving in, everything changed. I've heard a lot of good things about the individuals that were mentioned in this thread. Mostly from the days before CC & Pamal being in the MKT. As far as Pamal goes, I know several former and many current employees in different markets and they don't appear to be the happiest of employees. The owner of the company is a used car salesman and the management style that's exhibited by Pamal these days is just like the car business. You always hope that lessons will be learned by management, but rarely does that happen.