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BMP blows up Austin this morning

Santos said:
Out of respect for my KHHL team in Austin... KHHL was #1 Spanish in the last book (12+ and 25-54), and was Top 3 in All Austin 18-49, and did very well.

As a program director, I am proud of my team in Austin. They did a great job with La Ley.

The cume reach of KHHL was not 28,000... It would range from 90,000 to 108,000 (depending on the Arbitron diary wobbles that the market would face). It competed directly with a respectable KLQB-FM.

Also, you tend to forget that KXXS (only, without the simulcast) would hit about a 2.0 share (12+), before KHZS flipped to Spanish Pop in September 2008 (which a few weeks ago, KHZS moved out of Spanish Pop and into Regional Mexican as La Jefa).
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So the demise of KHHL and KXXS was due to what? Also, why did KHZS dropped Spanish Language Pop? Are you saying that KXXS beat KHZS?
 
Santos - I can't imagine this change is in any way performance based. You and your crew should be proud. Best of luck.

radioeye - I would think the demise of KHHL and KXXS is because of bad loan decisions by BMP before the recession and a bank which is now running the show.

Univision must be thanking Santa for this early gift. Clear Channel is busy trying to figure out how they can make the most of this situation with their two bottom feeders. Heck, even Entercom and Emmis are probably trying to figure out who in their buildings can speak Spanish.
 
beaun said:
Santos - I can't imagine this change is in any way performance based. You and your crew should be proud. Best of luck.

radioeye - I would think the demise of KHHL and KXXS is because of bad loan decisions by BMP before the recession and a bank which is now running the show.

Univision must be thanking Santa for this early gift. Clear Channel is busy trying to figure out how they can make the most of this situation with their two bottom feeders. Heck, even Entercom and Emmis are probably trying to figure out who in their buildings can speak Spanish.
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Agreed. But Univision is on a one year clock till the banks come a calling. Clear Channel has even less time. Entercom and Emmis are two good candidates. But I wonder if they want to enter into a battle that led to the demise of BMP.
 
radioman921 said:
FM Sports and Oldies, the oldies will do ok not great and the Sports, well you don't have an anchor or home team anchor. You will always be looking up. KVET AM has the Longhorns and the Cowboys and as far as Austin is concerned that is only what matters.
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Please recall KLBJ-AM has neither the Longhorns or the Cowboys and still does well with its sports talk shows.
 
DavidEduardo said:
JDawg512 said:
Actually that number is wrong... As of 2007, Travis County had approx 316,640 hispanics according to the Pew Hispanic Center based off U.S. Census data taken from that same time. This number is likely closer to 350,000 or so now. This is just Travis County alone and does not include the surrounding counties which would add more hispanic listeners to the Austin radio market.
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The current number used by Arbitron for Hiispanics 12+ for the Austin Metro Survey Area is 383,000. Arbitron uses Census Bureau projections, adjusted by Claritas and does not use numbers for just one County in the metro.

And just a clarification, the Census does not "take" a Census every year... it takes one every 10 years. The annual figures are statistical projections, which is why Arbitron uses Claritas which adds additional data sources and criteria to the projections.
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The official Census is 10 years apart, that does not mean that they do not monitor population from year to year, that is why we are able to know what an area's population and growth since 2000 for each year. the website that I got this off off is the Pew Hispanic Center and it shows they got their information from the 2007 U.S Census county population estimates. I would argue that the Austin metro area has more than 383,000 since Travis County alone has a higher estimated population now than in 2007. This is the link http://pewhispanic.org/states/population/ so you can see for yourself. click on Travis County... Either way the point I was trying to make is that Tower Erection undercut the hispanic population by more than 100,000 people.
 
JDawg512 said:
The official Census is 10 years apart, that does not mean that they do not monitor population from year to year, that is why we are able to know what an area's population and growth since 2000 for each year. the website that I got this off off is the Pew Hispanic Center and it shows they got their information from the 2007 U.S Census county population estimates. I would argue that the Austin metro area has more than 383,000 since Travis County alone has a higher estimated population now than in 2007. This is the link http://pewhispanic.org/states/population/ so you can see for yourself. click on Travis County... Either way the point I was trying to make is that Tower Erection undercut the hispanic population by more than 100,000 people.
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The Arbitron number, and thus the number that any cume of a radio station comes out of, is persons 12+, not everyone. The Pew number is persons 0+, so it is considerably larger.

As I said, the Census Bureau does not "take a census" each year. The use statistical models based on existing data and indicatiors. Claritas takes this data and uses additional data like motor vehicle registrations, school enrollment, etc., etc. to produce the annual updates Arbitron implements in October of every year.

So, as of this month, Arbitron will use the update figure until next year for projecting the ratings for the market. There has been no increase in Hispanic population due to the economy which has pretty much stopped migration from Mexico.
 
So what we're saying here is that these coming changes have nothing whatsoever to do with how well the people performed or the ratings of the stations...in fact, the practically-bankrupt parent companies needed to squeeze every possible dime out of their properties in order to buy a few extra months before the banks foreclose.

It's kind of like a worker selling his tools to pay off his credit cards.

Idiots.
 
I think that both Univision and BMP overthought their investments and tried for an equity play. Historically, the value of radio stations increased at about 30% yearly for a number of years. This was brought about because of consolidation of broadcasting which was push by Clear Channel and even Univision. Unfortunately, you've got to find buyers who are willing to to the same, or at least lenders who are willing to take a risk. When buyers dried up and the economy went south... 20 times cash flow purchase prices destroyed the business.

The Clear Channel and Univision private sales were disasters in the making, they may survive it. It's whether or not their lenders, want to work with them to help them get there. If not, a deal like what BMP went through is in the making.

It's not about generating ratings anymore, and it hasn't been about ratings since localism flew the coup. it's about generating money.
 
So how do you generate money by disassembling the machine that makes the money? Oh well, enough of this topic drift!

Has anyone come up with a date when the flip is supposed to take place?
 
mmnassour said:
So how do you generate money by disassembling the machine that makes the money?
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Maybe that's the piece of the puzzle we are not thinking of. Was KHHL able to translate ratings an programming success into revenue? It's pretty rare that you see a ratings winner like this flip formats.
 
According to the email sent from BMP to their clients, the spanish programming goes away at 1am Monday morning with the new formats debut at 6am Monday.
 
after reading some comments, i wonder what other stations will be changing , am or fm. i read that that somebody mention emmis or entercom. emmis side they have have klbj, krox, kgsr, kbpa, kdht, klbj-am, entercom has kamx, kkmj and kjce. clear channel has khfi, kfmk, kpez, kase, kvet, kvet-am

i believe kfmk is still up for sale.
this is all speculation
 
It would make the most sense for Clear Channel to flip either 102.3 or 105.9 to the format vacated by 98.9. The Emmis cluster seems to be pretty set and the Entercom combo of KAMX and KKMJ would seem pretty stable as well.

Clear Channel has problems that have been well documented and their foray into Spanish language formats has not been nearly as successful as they envisioned. However, look at the numbers for KHHL vs. KPEZ and one has to think Clear Channel is at least thinking about a flip.

Are we for certain 98.9 is going Oldies and if so, will it be Scott Shannon's "True Oldies Channel"?

dlf
 
intx said:
ESPN Austin is promoting the move of local shows to FM starting Monday on their Web site: http://espnaustin.com/
Says national ESPN shows will stay on 1530. So what is each station using to fill the gaps?
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It looks to me like the website blurb was a poorly written, last minute, thing. I'd bet that 1530 will simulcast on the FM side.

But the loss of 1490 and its FM twin are indeed major losses to the Hispanic community here in Austin. That's bad.....real bad. My gosh, what are they going to do with that sad little signal on 1490?
 
Supposedly Oldies on 98.9, ESPN local on 104.9, ESPN National on 1530, ESPN Deportes on 1260, and News on 92.5 and 1490. The latter two about news were not very solid leads. But if KLBJ AM is going to also be on the 99.7 translator, it seems likely. Is Emmis the target?
 
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