CBS FM Kill the 80's Play the Fabulous 50's!!

[RadioStarOne]

If any of you haven't noticed every song CBS-FM is playing is old! Some just not as old as others! Even if they played a song from last year its still just another old record!

And for all the posters that say the past is over and for us all to get over it, I say, then how come "you all" sound like broken records stuck in the same groove? Long live the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, and beyond!

 

[kevinsealy]

If you listen 20 minutes after the hour, CBS-FM plays a song from the 50's or early 60's they call The Heart of Rock 'N' Roll.



Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy

 

[OldiesCat]

Cat man, Blah blah ...You keep saying that WCBS audience pre Jack was 60+. That is the most inaccurate comment you have said thus far and you have said many.

And, you're basing your statement on..what?

And, I'd love to know the other factually "incorrect" comments I've also made.

Waiting................

 

[Barry45RPM]

To the person above who spoke about other media... I'm a Retailer, and I can tell you that there IS no "other Media". There is not alot of choice for us. I like radio! Young people don't read the Newspaper regularly, all the suburban stations are owned by a couple of large companies whose rates have no relationship at all to their ratings... they just want someone to pay for what they spent buying the station. NO one uses the Yellow Pages anymore... If you could even figure out which is the "real" Yellow Pages for your market. There are so many books competing for ads with ever better deals than Idearc (The Old Donelly Directories), that there is no clear one "winner book" that lists everybody, so all of them are worthless, because they all must be looked at for an accurate groups of merchants. (How many phone books do you have at home?) The on line directories are designed solely for the consumer to be unable to "drill down" to the service he's looking for. The further you drill down, the more you see closely related categories that direct the consumer to more sub categories, with a few merchants in each one, so that Verizon can sell the merchant into more category listings. There is one Newspaper here on Long Island whose rates are out of their minds (A help wanted ad in Newsday for a week is close to $900... The NY Times? an absolute bargain basement steal by comparison.) Cable TV? Its summertime. The only commercials you see are commercials by and for Cablevision. Got some inventory fellas?

Radio is good. I have bought it many times. Older people listen to it. Alot. Its not the 90's anymore. You have to get out there and sell, not just be an order taker for advertising and wait for a big pay check. Older demos have money to spend. It is they who demanded CBS-FM back, and NEVER gave up. While CBS can't be the station is was, it certainly cant be the same station it was the last couple of years before it was pulled off the air mid sentance. The younger new CBS listener will get used to hearing an occaisional pre Beatles 60's song, and the older folks will get used to the 80's songs. (After all, most of these 60's songs are in the movies, and TV, so they're not foreign to the younger demos. Ever hear 20-somethings singing "Build Me Up Buttercup or Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?)

Sit back watch and wait. It makes no sense to tell other forum posters that Oldies is Dead, Get a Life, or predict what they are going to play. Radio will always play to its listeners. It makes no sense to play to people who arent listening, no matter what their age. Maybe the "Golden Ages" is over... it certainly is for many products and Brands. The marketplace evolves.

 

[NJListener]

Barry45rpm, You make a lot of valid points. I am not a retailer, however I am a consumer. I think that you're right on target about radio and advertising. I rarely drag out the yellow pages, but there isn't a day that goes by that I don't have the radio on at some point.

I have to smile, well..smirk may be a better word for it at the gloaters that insisted the Oldies were GONE forever, "get over it", etc. because today seems to have been some sort of turning point over at CBS. The worm turned and I heard a wide variety of songs that were pre-1964, much to my delight. It wasn't overkill, and it was well placed throughout the day. So Cat-man, and Cali guy , I will have 2 big bowls of crow for you waiting when you're ready. It was you both that said "it will NEVER happen", if I recall. Money talks and BS walks, CBS knows which side of the bread is buttered or whatever that expression is, lol See, I am not that old.

 

[OldiesCat]

I have to smile, well..smirk may be a better word for it at the gloaters that insisted the Oldies were GONE forever, "get over it", etc. because today seems to have been some sort of turning point over at CBS. The worm turned and I heard a wide variety of songs that were pre-1964, much to my delight. It wasn't overkill, and it was well placed throughout the day. So Cat-man, and Cali guy , I will have 2 big bowls of crow for you waiting when you're ready. It was you both that said "it will NEVER happen", if I recall. Money talks and BS walks, CBS knows which side of the bread is buttered or whatever that expression is, lol See, I am not that old.

But, NJ, you haven't answered my previous post about your inflammatory statements about me being so factually incorrect so many times.

Still waiting

 

[NJListener]

You'll have to wait some more. I happening to be listening to "Runaround Sue" circa 1961 by Dion and The Belmonts on WCBS.

Followed by "Do Ya Think Im Sexy" Rod Stewart 1978

It works for me.

 

[OldiesCat]

You'll have to wait some more. I happening to be listening to "Runaround Sue" circa 1961 by Dion and The Belmonts on WCBS.

Followed by "Do Ya Think Im Sexy" Rod Stewart 1978

It works for me.

Thanks for admitting you were full of it and just made up that I was "factually inaccurate".

Hit for future: if you can't back it up, please don't say it. You embarrass yourself.

 

[SuperRadioFan]

So Cat-man, and Cali guy , I will have 2 big bowls of crow for you waiting when you're ready. It was you both that said "it will NEVER happen", if I recall.

You should have said "If I recall correctly"

Cali-guy....hmmmmmmI've never been called that before. I'm a Jersey boy and always will be. Just because I live in California does not change that. As to your assertion about what you think Oldies Cat and I said, as "Cat" said, we are waiting for you to point to the post or posts where either one of us said anything like "it will NEVER happen". We ARE waiting........

BTW why are you so hostile to someone from NJ anyway? ???
2nd BTW are YOU a NJ native?

 

[amfmsw]

Dear Mr. NJ and 45,

There are some people you cannot have a discussion with. There are some people who's knowledge is absolute. There are some people who are infallable. There are some people who get rude and defiant when challenged or questioned. There are some people whos sources are beyond reproach. It IS all black and White...to them.

Don't waste you're time. I enjoyed your comments.

CBS-FM is not perfect. It needs some adjustments, but it's efforts are welcome and appreciated.

 

[NJListener]

amfmsw, I give up trying to relate to these know-it-alls. It's exactly what you said that bothers me about some of these people. That in their minds their knowledge is "absolute". That's why I admittedly became antagonoistic. Everything was "it will NEVER happen" , "forget it, those days are gone", the people that like 50's music have to be in their 60's by now" , etc. Just random untruths and generaliations that they spout as though it were Gospel truth. So when I expose them for being WRONG on something they said in a prior post that has since come to pass, they get hostile. I have apologized for my lack of knowledge about the techincal aspects of radio, I can admit I am wrong, I doubt they would ever humble themselves enough to do that. And yes, I am also in agreement with you that WCBS efforts are appreciated. I was lumped in as a "whiner" for some comments, but that's not where I was coming from at all.

And Cali-guy, I was born in Newark, lived in Maplewood, Irvington,Belleville, now Hazlet all in the state of NJ. I guess I am a "native" then. You may have been a Jersey boy at one time but the facts speak for themselves, youre a Cali-guy now. Like it or not. lol Maybe in your heart you're a Jersey boy, but that's not what you said.
I am trying to do the quote thing on some posts so that I can pin point where the statements were made, but have a question. Is posting quotes from other posts restricted for newbies? I am trying to cut and paste, it's not working.

 

[vchimpanzee]

the people that like 50's music have to be in their 60's by now" , etc.

46, and I like 40s music too.

It's not how old the songs are. It's how good.

 

[SuperRadioFan]

You all should try a little tenderness instead of constantly attacking newbies that came to this site to learn more. ......... I can't believe that some of you more mature posters have resorted to name calling. "Illiterate", "wannabee" to name a few.

SRF:And in the SAME post--- you end it with:

You're a pompous bore.

Earlier you posted this to me---

You, in So.Cal, I don't really see how this is any of your business anyway. And to the rude Cat, you're just a jerk.

Soooooooooo are you of the opinion that only "newbies" should be treated more "tenderly" than regular/longer time posters here? And what's with the subtle name-calling "Kittyman" "Cali-Guy" etc. Can you treat others as you would like to be treated? After reading your posts, you have a twisted peception of what we are saying. In your case, perception does not = reality. But whatever.

Re. the quote feature, anyone can use it. Find a post that you want to reference and at the far right opposite the thread title in that particular post, hit the "quote" button. You will see the post quoted on the reply screen.

BTW I lived in Belleville, too.

I'm going to ask you a question that I would appreciate an honest answer.

Why the hostility??

 

[NJListener]

I'm going to ask you a question that I would appreciate an honest answer.

Why the hostility??
[/quote]

I am not a hostile person by nature, however I found certain individuals so negative and condescending that I deliberately met there posts with antagonism. The individuals that were respectful towards me I treated accordingly. And yes, after being called "illiterate" and a radio "wannabee" I called someone a pompous bore. Cry me a river

[After reading your posts, you have a twisted peception of what we are saying. In your case, perception does not = reality. But whatever.

That is a pretty inflammatory comment or at least I perceive it that way.

 

[SuperRadioFan]

And yes, after being called "illiterate" and a radio "wannabee" I called someone a pompous bore. Cry me a river

No one will cry you a river, but they might say you are a hypocrite

[After reading your posts, you have a twisted peception of what we are saying. In your case, perception does not = reality. But whatever.

That is a pretty inflammatory comment or at least I perceive it that way.

It should be apparent that it was my opinion as are all the posts here the opinion of their authors. To state it differently, I understand where you are coming from but I don't think you're at the point to see where we are coming from. That might take time as with anything new for anyone. Its just that you are being too harsh when it's not necessary to be so. Most of the time, we try to be civil, but as anywhere in life emotions and passions sometimes trump common sense.

As far as inflammatory goes, you may have noticed after I cited my "qualifications" to post here (in your opinion) your remark back to me was deleted by the moderators here because you made an inflammatory remark. To remind you, you called that post irelevant and implied it was boring "zzzzzzzzzzzzzz". So that part of it was deleted.

You're still new here so in time your skin will thicken. Until then, because we both love oldies --- ER --- classic hits , I'd like to offer the olive branch to you, friend.

 

[adma]

Mea culpa: note that I was the one who made the "illiterate" reference. But it was directed less at a person, than at a person's musical judgment.

So, when pressed, I explained things a little: the context of the particular song through time. And it was appreciated. I addressed the problem.

The best way to address "illiteracy" is, well, education. And maybe with some appreciation that when push comes to shove, we're *all* a little bit "illiterate" in some way or another (yes, me too)--and more often than we realize, "illiterate" enough to appreciate a bit of knowledge here and there. We're all in the same boat.

Remember, too, that I used "illiterate" in order to highlight what I sensed to be an unfortunate sitting duck for, well, these self-styled "qualified radio professionals"...

 

[NJListener]

And yes, after being called "illiterate" and a radio "wannabee" I called someone a pompous bore. Cry me a river

No one will cry you a river, but they might say you are a hypocrite

[After reading your posts, you have a twisted peception of what we are saying. In your case, perception does not = reality. But whatever.

That is a pretty inflammatory comment or at least I perceive it that way.

It should be apparent that it was my opinion as are all the posts here the opinion of their authors. To state it differently, I understand where you are coming from but I don't think you're at the point to see where we are coming from. That might take time as with anything new for anyone. Its just that you are being too harsh when it's not necessary to be so. Most of the time, we try to be civil, but as anywhere in life emotions and passions sometimes trump common sense.

As far as inflammatory goes, you may have noticed after I cited my "qualifications" to post here (in your opinion) your remark back to me was deleted by the moderators here because you made an inflammatory remark. To remind you, you called that post irelevant and implied it was boring "zzzzzzzzzzzzzz". So that part of it was deleted.

You're still new here so in time your skin will thicken. Until then, because we both love oldies --- ER --- classic hits , I'd like to offer the olive branch to you, friend.

And I accept, thank-you. Sorry I was on the defense. Now that we're best buds, a question. Do you mean to tell me that YOU ratted out my "Zzzzzzzzzzz" comments to the moderaters? lmao, I was wondering what in that was post was so "bad" lmao

 

[NJListener]

My post didn't come out right. Ok, a question. When wishing to add quotes to just a sentence in a post, do you highlight it and then click "quote"?

 

[4dude]

Just click quote and whatever you dont want in the quote simply remove

 

[OldiesCat]

amfmsw, I give up trying to relate to these know-it-alls. It's exactly what you said that bothers me about some of these people. That in their minds their knowledge is "absolute". That's why I admittedly became antagonoistic. Everything was "it will NEVER happen" , "forget it, those days are gone", the people that like 50's music have to be in their 60's by now" , etc. Just random untruths and generaliations that they spout as though it were Gospel truth. So when I expose them for being WRONG on something they said in a prior post that has since come to pass, they get hostile.

A couple of things for the last couple of posters here:

1) we've never said we "know it all"

2) nobody's knowledge is "absolute" but we are blessed to have lots & lots of successful experience at this

3) I'd really like to know (this will be the third time I've asked this, so far with no answers) what "random untruths" have I told on this thread- please provide
an example where I've been wrong on any facts and reacted with a hostile response

4) Please grow up. This is the #1 radio market and a heritage radio station we're discussing- if you can't state (or accept) facts and reality, you'll be called on it. That's how competitive, high stakes radio in 2007 works. If you're not ready to engage in informed discussion, it might be better to simply observe and save your indignation for another thread at another time.