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Clear Channel Blows Up The Harbor. Now Evolution 101.7

Re: Harbor gone---- welcome to the new dance evolution 101.7

Jimmy128 said:
raccoonradio said:
Heard about via twitter..so after tripling FNX numbers they change. Harbor fans prob upset...so does 96.9 go to alleged variety hits?

We'll probably find out tomorrow, maybe.

Who knows, probably, but who knows.
 
trock said:
I can't believe I just heard Cajmere on a commercial Boston radio station!! Maybe the world is ending tomorrow. ;D

Beyond the QE2 has been dropping cajmere for 2 decades on WZBC. i wonder if they will be hired by this new channel? doubtful...

so the dial is finally getting a nauseating retread of a genre that has been around for 25 years, known in 80a as club-house (Downtown Julie Brown on MTV...) and mid 90s as Electronica.. and more recently as "dumbstep". wake me up when theyre playing Dance Mania b-sides..
 
CTListener said:
Either it was a placeholder format and CC planned to go EDM on 101.7 all along, or CC wasn't happy with Harbor's first book (which, as has been noted, did triple WFNX's last number) and decided to pull the plug quickly.

Keep in mind, the "Evolution" iHeartRadio channel has only been around for six-weeks, so I don't think this was the plan all along. Seems like a lot of factors: EDM is going to be a better sell with 94.5 and 107.9 than The Harbor, the small 101.7 signal covers the urban/college areas where EDM will do best, the recent popularity of EDM, and the need to protect its cluster from 103.3 and whatever's going on at 96.9.

Overall, CC doesn't seem to leave old call letters lying around for long (vs. CBS' WODS, Salem's WWDJ parking lot) - I'm sure a new callsign is on the way.
 
carmen said:
trock said:
I can't believe I just heard Cajmere on a commercial Boston radio station!! Maybe the world is ending tomorrow. ;D

Beyond the QE2 has been dropping cajmere for 2 decades on WZBC. i wonder if they will be hired by this new channel? doubtful...

so the dial is finally getting a nauseating retread of a genre that has been around for 25 years, known in 80a as club-house (Downtown Julie Brown on MTV...) and mid 90s as Electronica.. and more recently as "dumbstep". wake me up when theyre playing Dance Mania b-sides..

Well from what I've been hearing, it's been a mixture of different styles. Very European sounding. Haven't heard any dubstep yet though they list skrillex as one of their core artists. Also you got to remember that nauseating 80's/90's house music as you put it. Probably hasn't been heard around here in 20 years. So it's new to a lot of the kids who are listening to it.
 
This is a real surprise. CC seemed so committed to their "Jack" type format and the ratings weren't terrible, considering the signal. Shouldn't have hurt that the format was really cheap to run. Don't get me wrong, this is a great new format that CC has never put on an FM before, but this is very surprising! I do think this could also lead to some value added buys for Kiss and Jamm'n, so that could be one reason for the flip. Best wishes on the new format's success!
 
--this is awesome news for commercial radio in the boston market.

--roger sanchez on sunday nights!

--dance pop (3 minute pop music songs in a dance style) that is all over Amp 103.3 is not the same thing as full length, continuously mixed (beatmatched and in the same key) dance music. I know all you old men huddled over your ham equipment in your shack have a hard time wrapping your head around this.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
Dance music? Does this mean Benny Goodman and Glenn Miller, or perhaps Lawrence Welk and waltzes? Or perhaps tangos and marimbas?

Of course I know those are not what it means, but I just want to point out that I resent this term being hijacked for one form of dance music when there are really many forms of dance music.
 
Beyond the QE2 has been dropping cajmere for 2 decades on WZBC. i wonder if they will be hired by this new channel? doubtful...

so the dial is finally getting a nauseating retread of a genre that has been around for 25 years, known in 80a as club-house (Downtown Julie Brown on MTV...) and mid 90s as Electronica.. and more recently as "dumbstep". wake me up when theyre playing Dance Mania b-sides..

Congrats. You're the winner of the first person to bitch about the new format and someone trying something new on commercial radio prize.

Good grief, you dance people are just as bad as hipsters. God forbid more than 3 people have heard of a song or artist and it gets played somewhere else.

You and 5 other people can continue to listen to WZBC. You can also go back to your opium den where you think that a commercial outlet in market #10 is going to hire unpolished college kids to spin the music. WZBC isn't Emerson College or Syracuse where that could happen.
 
Fenway1912 said:

Badly researched, indeed. No mention of anything airing on 101.7 between WFNX's signoff and Evolution's launch, and somehow the writer thinks that Clear Channel just acquired the station Thursday. Didn't the Globe report the sale to CC and the change from WFNX to Harbor WHBA? If the writer was a general-assignment reporter rather than someone who covers radio regularly, he should have checked his own paper's archives before even thinking of writing this story.
 
SIX stations? I count five: WXKS 1200, WKOX 1430, WJMN 94.5, WHBA 101.7, WXKS-FM 107.9.

I don't know if Worc. counts; if so, there's WTAG 580/ also 94.9, WSRS 96.1...ha address
for both acc to CC site is "96 Stereo Lane" :)
Anyway I count five in Boston, not 6.

One comment to article:
>>We just found the Harbour 2 weekends ago, had been listening to it a lot. I couldn't figure out wtf was playing on the radio during dinner tonight. Massively disappointed.
 
Agreed there are many types of dance music...swing, the Madison, the Hustle, country line dancing, Irish Step Dancing etc.

>>I resent this term being hijacked for one form of dance music when there are really many forms of dance music.

How about a cable TV channel called Music Television, when the music was narrowly focused
and mostly rock (and some rap, or do they even play videos anymore? Maybe it should be Pop Youth Culture TV or something)
 
CTListener said:
Fenway1912 said:
Globe has a badly researched story...

Badly researched, indeed. No mention of anything airing on 101.7 between WFNX's signoff and Evolution's launch, and somehow the writer thinks that Clear Channel just acquired the station Thursday...

Can't wait to read Callum Borchers' article on 96.9 flipping to a new format from country...
 
For the dance music community outside of Boston, this is a BIG TEST for us.

We have to see the numbers obviously but if this station does good, then other big cities could see this happen. For New York City, I can't see it on a Clear Channel station because of 'KTU (a rhythmic adult contemporary station that does well) and Z-100. But for CBS Radio, it would make sense to take 92.3 Now this route. It's virtually there already.

We do have a New England chapter of the New York Dance Music Coalition and to that we are in FULL support of Evolution 101.7!
 
Tony Santiago said:
For the dance music community outside of Boston, this is a BIG TEST for us.

We have to see the numbers obviously but if this station does good, then other big cities could see this happen. For New York City, I can't see it on a Clear Channel station because of 'KTU (a rhythmic adult contemporary station that does well) and Z-100. But for CBS Radio, it would make sense to take 92.3 Now this route. It's virtually there already.

We do have a New England chapter of the New York Dance Music Coalition and to that we are in FULL support of Evolution 101.7!
YES!!!!! I hope this station lasta long time. Goodbye Amp 103.3. By far, they sound way better
 
Time out, Evolution is a national 'featured' format on IHR.

For the heck of it, I streamed the Boston version and the 'featured' version and they were playing the exact the same song. Isn't it just plug and play radio? If Evolution fails, they can swap it over to K-LOVE, AT40, Classica, Country Road, Rock Nation, Smooth Jazz, Soft Rock, The Alt Project, etc, etc, etc

Hire a morning show and then I'll get excited we have a new station in town....
 
If "Evolution" fails, Clear Channel may have to do what I think they should have done when they bought the then-WFNX if they were intent of changing formats: Go Spanish.

If CC had done that in July, by now, "Mia Estereo 101-7" probably would be among Boston's ten most popular radio stations in terms of total listeners, and in the top-five among listeners under 30, despite it's signal (since there is a fast-growing young-adult Hispanic demographic both here and nationally)!
 
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