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Country it is
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HHH said:
Artists most have never heard of sell out the Garden in a day. It's a useless metric.
There are enough country fans out there to support a station, but don't look for a new music revolution here in NYC.
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You are presuming that nothing has changed in Country music in the past several years. Jason Aldean just sold out Madison Square Garden in an hour. I think he was in elementary school when your information was current.
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what are you talking about? He's just posting past country station ratings. It is infact interesting to see how the faired. Regarding that country singer, whoever he is, selling out in 1 hour, most big acts sell out that quickly. Madonna sold out in less than 5 minutes w/ 4 shows. Furthermore just because an act sells out at MSG doesn't mean it's New Yorker's attending the concerts!! WWYZ, Hartford has promoted NYC venues for years on their station. You're point is mute.
You are presuming that nothing has changed in Country music in the past several years. Jason Aldean just sold out Madison Square Garden in an hour. I think he was in elementary school when your information was current.
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what are you talking about? He's just posting past country station ratings. It is infact interesting to see how the faired. Regarding that country singer, whoever he is, selling out in 1 hour, most big acts sell out that quickly. Madonna sold out in less than 5 minutes w/ 4 shows. Furthermore just because an act sells out at MSG doesn't mean it's New Yorker's attending the concerts!! WWYZ, Hartford has promoted NYC venues for years on their station. You're point is mute.
You are presuming that nothing has changed in Country music in the past several years. Jason Aldean just sold out Madison Square Garden in an hour. I think he was in elementary school when your information was current.
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what are you talking about? He's just posting past country station ratings. It is infact interesting to see how the faired. Madonna sold out in less than 5 minutes w/ 4 shows. Furthermore just because an act sells out at MSG doesn't mean it's New Yorker's attending the concerts!! WWYZ, Hartford has promoted NYC venues for years on their station. You're point is mute.Regarding that country singer, whoever he is, selling out in 1 hour, most big acts sell out that quickly.
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"He's just posting past country station ratings".
From many years ago. That's like posting AM radio top 40 ratings from the 60s and making the case that WABC should go top 40 today.
"Madonna sold out in less than 5 minutes w/ 4 shows."
A lot of stations play Madonna. Have for many years. Plus she is a heritage act who has been a hit for about 30 years.
"Furthermore just because an act sells out at MSG doesn't mean it's New Yorker's attending the concerts!! WWYZ, Hartford has promoted NYC venues for years on their station."
I will guarantee you that the majority of people who will attend the Jason Aldean concert at MSG are within signal range of Nash FM.
"You're point is mute. Regarding that country singer, whoever he is, selling out in 1 hour, most big acts sell out that quickly."
That's a pretty amazing statement. Listen to what you just said. Here is a Jason Aldean (whoever he is, right?) a non-heritage act (debut record in 2005) with virtually NO airplay selling out MSG in 10 minutes. And this means nothing? Stop it.
In a market the size of NYC, 18,000 people selling out the garden is virtually meaningless. The Black Keys get no airplay in NYC and did the same thing.
It shows that there is interest in an artist that's bigger than someone at the Bowery Ballroom, but it isn't something to base radio ratings on. That's what, .1% of the total market?
It shows that there is interest in an artist that's bigger than someone at the Bowery Ballroom, but it isn't something to base radio ratings on. That's what, .1% of the total market?
Fully agree with WNTIRadio. For the record it's 0.1156% of the market. ;D
HHH said:
what are you talking about? He's just posting past country station ratings. It is infact interesting to see how the faired. Madonna sold out in less than 5 minutes w/ 4 shows. Furthermore just because an act sells out at MSG doesn't mean it's New Yorker's attending the concerts!! WWYZ, Hartford has promoted NYC venues for years on their station. You're point is mute.Regarding that country singer, whoever he is, selling out in 1 hour, most big acts sell out that quickly.
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"He's just posting past country station ratings".
From many years ago. That's like posting AM radio top 40 ratings from the 60s and making the case that WABC should go top 40 today.
"Madonna sold out in less than 5 minutes w/ 4 shows."
A lot of stations play Madonna. Have for many years. Plus she is a heritage act who has been a hit for about 30 years.
"Furthermore just because an act sells out at MSG doesn't mean it's New Yorker's attending the concerts!! WWYZ, Hartford has promoted NYC venues for years on their station."
I will guarantee you that the majority of people who will attend the Jason Aldean concert at MSG are within signal range of Nash FM.
"You're point is mute. Regarding that country singer, whoever he is, selling out in 1 hour, most big acts sell out that quickly."
That's a pretty amazing statement. Listen to what you just said. Here is a Jason Aldean (whoever he is, right?) a non-heritage act (debut record in 2005) with virtually NO airplay selling out MSG in 10 minutes. And this means nothing? Stop it.
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His posting of past country station ratings were for informational purposes only and ratings that I'm sure Cumulus looked at. They may not have been what influenced them to make their decision on the format as obviously today's market is different but wasn't his post simply informational??? Did I miss something?
How do you know that the majority of concert goers at this Jason Aldean concert (whoever is he is) are within the Nash listening area? Did you take a survey at the concert? There's no way you could back that up with fact. PA, CT are all within close driving range of NYC. People get on planes to go see concerts. Look at groupie websites. Cat Country probably promotes the NYC venue. I know for a fact that Country 92.5 in Hartford promotes just about every NYC country venue. I'm sure Thunder does too.
Nonetheless, even if we used that logic, many unknown Italian artists sell out NYC venues. Should we have an commericial Italian station then? should every genre of act that sells out in 10 minutes warrant that genre getting it's own full time commercial radio station?
That's just a ridiculous argument.
I get that the country fans, most of them being outside the 5 boroughs, are excited and I get that there is an underserved country market in the area and I'm happy NYC radio has more formats but once this buzz dies down we'll see how Nash performes.. I can however tell you that living and working within the 5 boroughs, I hear no incredible buzz outside of these radio boards nor do I see people walking the canyons of Manhattan in cowboy boots.
Right - because all people who listen to country wear cowboy boots. Just like all rock fans smoke weed all day and wear ripped t-shirts. People need to stop with the meaningless stereotypes. And when has any new radio station created a "buzz" on the street? I know I have never heard it. I know many of you people wanted a rock station, but let's get over it and move on.
Jeffrey said:
Correct. I also know for a fact stations across the dial in PHILLY frequently promote or at least mention big musical events going on in NYC too.
ansky212 said:
I know. "Cowboy boots"? Too funny. And after just 36 hours on the air, yet!
Look, the point is that one would have to be a moron not to think that a station that plays a major genre of current, popular music which has been completely missing from the metro for many years will not make a respectable impact in the market. That's all I am saying.
My prediction is that 6 months from now, they will probably be somewhere around a 2.0 6+, with some nice, saleable demos and higher than average Time Spent Listening due to their unique format.
All in all, it is nice to have some new titles heard in the market, regardless of WHAT your musical taste is.
-Take your pick from these two maps for 94.7 coverage from West Orange, NJ = 23,500 watts @ 679 feet HAAT
(the radio-locator.com version is more optimistic than the Google maps version)
Radio-Locator.com version: http://radio-locator.com/pats/WRXP_FM_LU.gif
Recnet.net Google-map version: http://recnet.net/goo_curves.php?data=40.788|74.255|23.5|207|54|0|234|0|2
-Just for comparison: cluster-mate WPLJ 95.5 from Empire - 6700 watts @ 1339 feet HAAT
Radio-Locator.com version: http://radio-locator.com/pats/WPLJ_FM_LU.gif
Recnet.net Google-map version: http://recnet.net/goo_curves.php?data=40.748|73.986|6.7|408|54|0|238|0|1
(the radio-locator.com version is more optimistic than the Google maps version)
Radio-Locator.com version: http://radio-locator.com/pats/WRXP_FM_LU.gif
Recnet.net Google-map version: http://recnet.net/goo_curves.php?data=40.788|74.255|23.5|207|54|0|234|0|2
-Just for comparison: cluster-mate WPLJ 95.5 from Empire - 6700 watts @ 1339 feet HAAT
Radio-Locator.com version: http://radio-locator.com/pats/WPLJ_FM_LU.gif
Recnet.net Google-map version: http://recnet.net/goo_curves.php?data=40.748|73.986|6.7|408|54|0|238|0|1
Radio-locator, although a cool site with a lot of cool information, is not an FCC legitimate site.pjc1961 said:
Go to the FCC.gov site for more official information. When it comes to posting call sign changes, they can be a little slow due to the volume of applications, etc. but, they are official.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
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