CUMULUS keeps ignoring "Super Bass" !

[CHRles]

It's all good man, I totally understand what you're saying.
At least CHR/Rhythmic Wild 105.7 is playing a lot of great songs, which I'm sure you enjoy hearing on your local radio.

Other than that, you might want to do what I recently did. If you've got a Smartphone with unlimited internet access simply download an App that lets you tune into thousands of terrestrial and virtual stations from around the world. Then go to your local Smartphone store and get something along the lines of Plantronics K-100 Bluetooth In Car Speakerphone. It's both a Speakerphone, and a micro FM-Transmitter.
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/k100

Worth every penny!!!

Simply set it to a relatively unused place on the FM dial (such as 87.9) and voila! You can listen to any station you want. If the station's broadcasting with 128 Kbps higher you'll be able to hear it in better quality than most of the stations on your local FM dial.

 

[carolinaradio]

How To Love is rather sappy and ballad like, isn't it? My understanding is that Cumulus likes those.

Not all Cumulus CHRs are ignoring Where Them Girls At. Q100 is, but I think most of the others aren't. Q100 seems to play the most hot AC recurrents of all of the big market Cumulus CHRs. Who Says is surprising, though. Seems like they would have been all over that one.

 

[electroboy73]

It's all good man, I totally understand what you're saying.
At least CHR/Rhythmic Wild 105.7 is playing a lot of great songs, which I'm sure you enjoy hearing on your local radio.

Other than that, you might want to do what I recently did. If you've got a Smartphone with unlimited internet access simply download an App that lets you tune into thousands of terrestrial and virtual stations from around the world. Then go to your local Smartphone store and get something along the lines of Plantronics K-100 Bluetooth In Car Speakerphone. It's both a Speakerphone, and a micro FM-Transmitter.
http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/k100

Worth every penny!!!

Simply set it to a relatively unused place on the FM dial (such as 87.9) and voila! You can listen to any station you want. If the station's broadcasting with 128 Kbps higher you'll be able to hear it in better quality than most of the stations on your local FM dial.

Wow...I'll def look into that more...just been using my iPhone a lot as "walkman", using apps like iHeart..., AOL, WunderRadio, Pandora, etc.

 

[atlantaboy]

CHR radio in Atlanta...should not be playing "Heartbreak Warfare" or "No Surprise" as you're heading into the awesome cityscape of Atlanta to go out for the night (or whatever).

Why not? Lol why is this board made up of people who hate the sound of a guitar...

I'd much rather hear Heartbreak Warfare going into the city than LMFAO and the disposable crap they put out - at least Heartbreak Warfare is remotely intelligent :

Anyhow, if you hate the sound of a guitar, and love everything rhythmic, just listen to Wild - I don't see what the big deal is...

 

[atlantaboy]

BTW, I'm not sure that Atlanta is that different a situation than Chicago, Detroit, Houston, or Washington DC - Hot AC outbills/outshares rhythmic-leaning CHR in all those markets, and that's 4 out of the Top 10 U. S. markets

If Q100 were to somehow move to the Hot AC panel, and Wild moved to the CHR/Pop panel, would posters continue to complain about Q100? If people hate the sound of Nickelback/John Mayer/Coldplay etc. (or think it's lame, outdated, etc.), why are they listening to Q100 in the first place?

 

[Martin Mac]

BTW, I'm not sure that Atlanta is that different a situation than Chicago, Detroit, Houston, or Washington DC - Hot AC outbills/outshares rhythmic-leaning CHR in all those markets, and that's 4 out of the Top 10 U. S. markets

If Q100 were to somehow move to the Hot AC panel, and Wild moved to the CHR/Pop panel, would posters continue to complain about Q100? If people hate the sound of Nickelback/John Mayer/Coldplay etc. (or think it's lame, outdated, etc.), why are they listening to Q100 in the first place?

Do you like Super Bass?

 

[atlantaboy]

BTW, I'm not sure that Atlanta is that different a situation than Chicago, Detroit, Houston, or Washington DC - Hot AC outbills/outshares rhythmic-leaning CHR in all those markets, and that's 4 out of the Top 10 U. S. markets

If Q100 were to somehow move to the Hot AC panel, and Wild moved to the CHR/Pop panel, would posters continue to complain about Q100? If people hate the sound of Nickelback/John Mayer/Coldplay etc. (or think it's lame, outdated, etc.), why are they listening to Q100 in the first place?

Do you like Super Bass?

It's alright - I still wish Q100 would add it - I don't see any reason for them to drop John Mayer, Coldplay, and Nickelback though - to me it makes the station more interesting, not less interesting

And if you're going out clubbing, and you want to hear all rhythmic stuff to get you in the mood, then just listen to the Rhythmic station...I don't get it

 

[CHRles]

BTW, I'm not sure that Atlanta is that different a situation than Chicago, Detroit, Houston, or Washington DC - Hot AC outbills/outshares rhythmic-leaning CHR in all those markets, and that's 4 out of the Top 10 U. S. markets

If Q100 were to somehow move to the Hot AC panel, and Wild moved to the CHR/Pop panel, would posters continue to complain about Q100? If people hate the sound of Nickelback/John Mayer/Coldplay etc. (or think it's lame, outdated, etc.), why are they listening to Q100 in the first place?

Hot 99.5 DC (CHR) is way ahead of Mix 107.3 (Hot AC) in shares and cume, Detroit is not a Top 10 market, B-96 (Rhythmic) is tied with 101.9 The Mix (Hot AC) and B-96 beats it in cume.
In Houston Mix 96.5 (Hot AC) is ranked below both 104 KRBE (CHR) and Hot 95.7 (CHR).

 

[CHRles]

I'd much rather hear Heartbreak Warfare going into the city than LMFAO and the disposable crap they put out - at least Heartbreak Warfare is remotely intelligent :

That's great and all but CHR radio isn't about intelligent artists and lyrics - it's about what's hot. LMFAO's hit single has topped the charts in over 18 countries, and has been THE number one song in the US this summer. Disposable or not, LMFAO are what a lot of Top 40 listeners wish to hear while they're going in and out of their cities right now.
"Heartbreak Warfare" wasn't even that big of a hit if I recall correctly. It's a nice tune by a guy whose a bit reminiscent of Dave Mathews on the song.

 

[CHRles]

A few more Hot ACs are playing "Super Bass".
Q-104 Cleveland now has "Super Bass" in medium rotation, and it's even been added to light rotation over at Mix 100 Denver.
Speaking of Denver, by the looks of it we could see either KIMN Mix 100 or rival Hot AC Alice 106 migrate over to the CHR/Pop panel by the end of the summer, along with 106.3 FM Lexington.

 

[MattHollidaye OnAir]

I'd much rather hear Heartbreak Warfare going into the city than LMFAO and the disposable crap they put out - at least Heartbreak Warfare is remotely intelligent :

That's great and all but CHR radio isn't about intelligent artists and lyrics - it's about what's hot. LMFAO's hit single has topped the charts in over 18 countries, and has been THE number one song in the US this summer. Disposable or not, LMFAO are what a lot of Top 40 listeners wish to hear while they're going in and out of their cities right now.
"Heartbreak Warfare" wasn't even that big of a hit if I recall correctly. It's a nice tune by a guy whose a bit reminiscent of Dave Mathews on the song.

Exactly why would I want to listen to Heartbreak Warfare if I'm going out to a club or something? Give me a play list consisting of what I would hear in a club setting and I'll be straight......

To add to what CHRles was saying, I believe Detroit is ranked #11 out of the Top 20 Markets.

 

[atlantaboy]

I'd much rather hear Heartbreak Warfare going into the city than LMFAO and the disposable crap they put out - at least Heartbreak Warfare is remotely intelligent :

That's great and all but CHR radio isn't about intelligent artists and lyrics - it's about what's hot. LMFAO's hit single has topped the charts in over 18 countries, and has been THE number one song in the US this summer. Disposable or not, LMFAO are what a lot of Top 40 listeners wish to hear while they're going in and out of their cities right now.
"Heartbreak Warfare" wasn't even that big of a hit if I recall correctly. It's a nice tune by a guy whose a bit reminiscent of Dave Mathews on the song.

Exactly why would I want to listen to Heartbreak Warfare if I'm going out to a club or something?

What does CHR have to do with going out to clubs?

If you're going clubbing, and you want to hear stuff with a beat, listen to Rhythmic - it's that simple...

Besides, it's pretty clear that Q100 isn't targeting single guys going out to clubs on Friday nights - it's targeting 25-34 suburban females and their suburban kids

 

[atlantaboy]

I'd much rather hear Heartbreak Warfare going into the city than LMFAO and the disposable crap they put out - at least Heartbreak Warfare is remotely intelligent :

That's great and all but CHR radio isn't about intelligent artists and lyrics - it's about what's hot.

And in Atlanta, John Mayer is hot - otherwise Q100 wouldn't have the ratings it does

People have a choice to listen to Wild, and the overwhelming majority are listening to Q100 (Q100 has nearly double the share and cume that Wild's getting)

On another note though, I'm not sure the Hot AC thing is working so well in Houston - IMO Cumulus needs to put KRBE on a more rhythmic playlist, especially considering the percentage of Hispanic listeners in that market

 

[carolinaradio]

Agreed with KRBE, same with KLIF in Dallas (i93).

BTW, Cumulus is doing some hiring in the programming department: http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=BW&date=20110803&id=14042008

After the Citadel deal is done with, I wonder if we may see some improvements in their CHR's (custon playlists maybe)? I hope they don't mess with the Citadel CHRs' playlists and replace the live night jocks with Billy Bush, but I wouldn't doubt it :-\

 

[atlantaboy]

BTW, Cumulus is doing some hiring in the programming department: http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=BW&date=20110803&id=14042008

After the Citadel deal is done with, I wonder if we may see some improvements in their CHR's (custon playlists maybe)?

I feel like that's gotta happen - with the amount of money Cumulus is swallowing, there is absolutely no reason for a huge market like Houston not to have its own custom CHR playlist - Houston is bigger than Atlanta, and its huge Hispanic cultural influence couldn't be more opposite from Atlanta (where the Hispanic population is small and largely migrant)

Just compare the ratings of Star 94 with KHMX in Houston - Hot AC obviously isn't as much of a force in Houston as it is in Atlanta

 

[carolinaradio]

I feel like that's gotta happen - with the amount of money Cumulus is swallowing, there is absolutely no reason for a huge market like Houston not to have its own custom CHR playlist - Houston is bigger than Atlanta, and its huge Hispanic cultural influence couldn't be more opposite from Atlanta (where the Hispanic population is small and largely migrant)

Just compare the ratings of Star 94 with KHMX in Houston - Hot AC obviously isn't as much of a force in Houston as it is in Atlanta

Yeah....Q's musical direction makes sense given the competition with Star in Atlanta, but using the same direction on KRBE doesn't make much sense. Assuming that the two complete the merger (seems like they've run in to some issues lately), I hope we see improvement as far as localization goes with the Cumulus CHR's. Citadel has some pretty good CHR stations, I enjoy listening to 95SX in Charleston when I'm around there.

I really like a live, interactive night show on CHR's. That's where Cumulus disappoints me the most since, in most cases they choose to air Billy Bush instead. Their country stations are the same way with the CMT show at night.

 

[atlantaboy]

A few more Hot ACs are playing "Super Bass".
Q-104 Cleveland now has "Super Bass" in medium rotation, and it's even been added to light rotation over at Mix 100 Denver.
Speaking of Denver, by the looks of it we could see either KIMN Mix 100 or rival Hot AC Alice 106 migrate over to the CHR/Pop panel by the end of the summer, along with 106.3 FM Lexington.

WWMX/Baltimore, WQAL/Cleveland, and WBZZ/Pittsburgh are all owned by CBS (surprise!!), and that's where a lot of the Super Bass Hot AC spins are coming from...

WPST/Trenton-Philly is playing it a lot, but IMO it needs to be moved back to the CHR panel (along with those other three stations)

KLLY/Bakersfield and WCDA/Lexington KY are really the only Hot AC's playing it significantly IMO (they're actually mixing Hot AC music with Nicki Minaj)

 

[atlantaboy]

BTW, I'm not sure that Atlanta is that different a situation than Chicago, Detroit, Houston, or Washington DC - Hot AC outbills/outshares rhythmic-leaning CHR in all those markets, and that's 4 out of the Top 10 U. S. markets

If Q100 were to somehow move to the Hot AC panel, and Wild moved to the CHR/Pop panel, would posters continue to complain about Q100? If people hate the sound of Nickelback/John Mayer/Coldplay etc. (or think it's lame, outdated, etc.), why are they listening to Q100 in the first place?

Hot 99.5 DC (CHR) is way ahead of Mix 107.3 (Hot AC) in shares and cume, Detroit is not a Top 10 market, B-96 (Rhythmic) is tied with 101.9 The Mix (Hot AC) and B-96 beats it in cume.
In Houston Mix 96.5 (Hot AC) is ranked below both 104 KRBE (CHR) and Hot 95.7 (CHR).

Washington DC has two Hot ACs - WRQX has a 3.8 and WIAD has a 3.1, so Hot AC in Washington has a 6.9 share, compared to a 6.4 for Rhythmic-leaning CHR (this is based on last month, since new ratings aren't out yet)

In Chicago, Hot AC WTMX has a 4.0, compared to a 3.4 for Rhythmic-leaning CHR WKSC (WTMX also bills higher) - B96 is Rhythmic, not Rhythmic-leaning CHR, and I'm sure you know that

In Houston, if you count KRBE as Hot AC (since nearly everyone in this thread is implying that Cumulus CHRs are not real CHRs since they play John Mayer and Nickelback on Friday nights and don't play Nicki Minaj), the two Hot ACs have a 7.9 share, compared to a 4.3 for Rhythmic-leaning CHR

The point is...Atlanta is not unique - there are four Top 10 markets where Hot AC-leaning CHR, or straight Hot AC, share/bills better than rhythmic-leaning CHRs

So just because a city is big, with an impressive skyline when you're driving into it, doesn't mean that rhythmic-leaning stuff is "hot" in that market and HAC-leaning stuff is outdated/lame/small-market sounding

 

[CHRles]

The whole Hot AC comparison is nonsense since you can also counter that with comparisons to Rhythmic CHR and other formats.
All I know is that within the CHR/Pop format Q-100's music mix is much conservative that most other major market CHRs.

BTW, 95.7 The Vibe Kansas City is now playing "Super Bass" and even Foster For The People.

 

[atlantaboy]

^All the Cumulus stations added Foster The People yesterday - and BTW according to Mediabase only 4 stations on the panel aren't playing Super Bass (and I didn't think Cumulus let any of its stations play AT40 or any other syndicated show outside of Billy Bush)