I am hearing this right now, the strongest I picked up this station was on Binghamton's east side and good in Kirkwood by 5 Mile Point raceway fades out by exit 1 on I-81 Is this for real?!? A pirate or LP, whatever it is............I LOVE IT!!! ;D BTW, there was someone on air that calls it "Hot 97" and i agree, this is HOT!
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Dance/Electronica on 97.7?!?!
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Since the FCC database has no "WOUT" listing, I'd say it's either a pirate or a Part 15 station. "Dance/Electronica" and "out" might indicate a flamboyant owner.
It's almost certainly a pirate. FCC CDBS lists no station or application for anything called "WOUT" on 97.7 in NY or PA...probably because the call letters are reserved by the Coast Guard for a ship: "El Commodore / 234210". Looks like an active ship, so those calls will (almost certainly) not be released.
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As someone new to the group and following this thread; I don't think anyone is "flamboyant" because they like dance (electronica, etc..) music. What would that make the rest of the dial?
Well, dance, electronica, and the reference to "OUT" in the call letters kind of leads you in a particular direction...
SirRoxalot said:
Someone called me over here, and this is the part I love to tackle......EDUCATION. So based on that let's just call it out here ....SirRoxalot, based on your posts you probably (not saying for certain) think of all dance fans as gay, based on that "OUT" quote.
Granted, gays DO listen to dance music, just as much as gays listen to rock music, hip-hop music, country music, top 40 music, etc. But why is it that dance music is associated as a "gay thing?" It's time for a history lesson and to take what has been "stereotyped" and make it real here.
Wel will go back to the era that is pre-Stonewall (before the 1960's, I'll explain Stonewall later). Prior to Stonewall, gays were not allowed to express themselves in public. In certain communities gays were lashed out as "sinners", going against God for doing "deviant" sexual practices. Gays were social outcasts. As such, those that were gay from small towns moved to areas such as San Francisco and New York City whereas people didn't care about ones sexual practices. Yet there were still laws in the books regarding homosexual activity and as such gays were still not allowed to express themselves openly. The ONLY place that gays and lesbians were able to be themselves were in dance clubs, clubs that were mainly run by the mafia and were done in a "speakeasy" fashion. To gain access, someone had to know someone to be admitted in. Once in, gays were able to dance freely. However if a cop would come by, the gay clientele would be warned of this and have to "straighten" out (where couples would have to switch and dance with someone of the opposite sex. so as to show "normalcy").
It was June 28, 1969 that a historical event took place amongst the gay community in New York at a gay establishment known as Stonewall. Since the details along, just follow the link below to learn more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots
It was those riots whereas gays and lesbians stood up against the government sponsored persecution that eventually triggered the gay rights movement.
A LOT of social changes were going on in the 1970's. The Vietnam war had ended and people just wanted an escape. Disco music came in at that time and grew to be BIG. Besides the gay rights movement growing, you also had black pride and the women's equal rights movement going on. A lot of social programs and liberalism was happening at that time. Clubs such as Studio 54 in NYC were that escape as people from all walks of life would just go and dance the night away. It didn't matter who or what you were, but the more "flamboyant" (which in THAT term means wildly dressed, not one's sexual preference) one looked, the better chance you were admitted in since Steve Rubell and Ian Schraeger (owners of the club) had their door policy. And being that some of those dressed flamboyantly were gays, the stereotype came in.
Of course all of these changes that were happening were ticking off rock fans, especially in light of the fact that acts such as the Rolling Stones, Queen and Rod Stewart were doing "disco" type songs. It got to the point where Chicago radio disc jockey Steven Dahl (who was let go from a radio station that changed from a rock format to disco) started his own movement..."Disco Sucks". This was more about the male rockers fighting back against all that was happening. Therefore on July 12, 1979, the "Disco Demolition Rally" took place at Comiskey Park where disco albums were being blown up to which riots were caused. It really wasn't about "disco music" per se; more about white macho males bashing on a rapidly changing society and disco music was the "patsy". Disco eventually faded out but the stereotype remained as other dance trends were happening that gays were only into dance music, based on the "flamboyancy" at Studio 54 as well as gay pride parades that exhibited the wild clothing. Shows such as "Queer As Folk" and others poking fun at this such as "The Simpsons" stereotyped gays with dance music.
As I have said, yes gays follow dance music....and THANK GOD FOR THAT! Gays have certainly brought in a lot of the trends in the clubs as well as the music. But gays follow rock music too. So why doesn't THAT get mentioned? Because within that community there appears to be a bit of "homophobia" on that. Guys would probably "beat up" on two dudes listening to a rock concert and dancing with each other. It's even worse in the hip-hop commmunity as rappers may brag about money, call women ho's and are very anti-gay. Yet with all genres of music, you have a gay following. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.
So WHAT if the owner of that pirate radio station calls it "out". I am a straight male and during the Winter Music Conference (a dance music conference) in Miami you had gays enjoying the music. And I thought it was fantastic. Yeah, I was "hit on" but told them I was straight and it was okay. If ANYTHING, they plauded me for having an "open mind" about their sexuality and was not afraid.
Let's just sum it up as this...we are God's children, each and every one of us. We are all made differently. Whether its skin color, religious beliefs, sex, sexual preferences, we are all human. Everyone breathes the same air, everyone bleeds, everyone drinks the same water. And we all die. And it won't make a difference who we are buried next to in a cemetery. All walks of life are in there.
So to that 97.7 pirate, keep up the good work!
I would like to add, dance music is for everyone. It's perhaps the one genre that really doesn't target any specific group.
Whites, Latinos, African-Americans, Asians, Indians, men, women, gay, straight, religious, athiest....no matter.
One addendum:
Just so as to be certain on this, SirRoxALot, I'm only suggesting that you're going on a stereotype here, not that you yourself may necessarily have an issue with the gay lifestyle. I'm just trying to knock down whatever stereotypes are out there.
Whites, Latinos, African-Americans, Asians, Indians, men, women, gay, straight, religious, athiest....no matter.
One addendum:
Just so as to be certain on this, SirRoxALot, I'm only suggesting that you're going on a stereotype here, not that you yourself may necessarily have an issue with the gay lifestyle. I'm just trying to knock down whatever stereotypes are out there.
Look, anybody who's been in the entertainment business for more than 5 minutes knows somebody who's gay, and had better get over any "problem" in a hurry if they intend to stay in the entertainment business.
I never said, or indicated in any way, that all "dance" fans were gay. Like straight people, gay people listen to a wide variety of music, from dance to rock to show tunes to country.
It's pretty common for gay bars to play a lot of dance music. It's pretty common for straight dance clubs to play a lot of dance music. The only point here was that the choice of music, and the choice of call letters to include the word "OUT" might indicate a gay tie-in here. Whether it's an individual, or an organization, it looks like a pirate is out there.
I never said, or indicated in any way, that all "dance" fans were gay. Like straight people, gay people listen to a wide variety of music, from dance to rock to show tunes to country.
It's pretty common for gay bars to play a lot of dance music. It's pretty common for straight dance clubs to play a lot of dance music. The only point here was that the choice of music, and the choice of call letters to include the word "OUT" might indicate a gay tie-in here. Whether it's an individual, or an organization, it looks like a pirate is out there.
That's cool. 
I thought with the overtone thing on that "OUT" thing, it may have been a thought. I stand corrected.
And yeah, from what I've been hearing from folks up your way, there's a pirate going on. Heck the pirates down here are all Caribbean! (and no...not "Pirates of the Caribbean")
I thought with the overtone thing on that "OUT" thing, it may have been a thought. I stand corrected.And yeah, from what I've been hearing from folks up your way, there's a pirate going on. Heck the pirates down here are all Caribbean! (and no...not "Pirates of the Caribbean")
As most in Bingo know, I split my time between Binghamton and NYC, I have been in Binghamton an awful lot since the shootings, it's my hometown and just when tragedy strikes you recoil to the familiar... well I have a house up on the hill on the Eastside and I've yet to hear this station, and I've been checking often when I'm around.
As far as I know, Hot 97 is run by Dan Comparetta, formerly of the Hawk - anyone out there who knows otherwise, correct me if I'm wrong?
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Has anyone been listening to 87.7 FM, WXXW-LP in Binghamton?
I love it! Just awesome!
If there is anyone out there in the know, I want to work for this person!
I love it! Just awesome!
If there is anyone out there in the know, I want to work for this person!
You know, with all the Top 40/Rhythmic CHR's that are flooding NYC/LI/NJ, Binghamton could use a good Rhythmic/CHR/Dance leaning station. Wild 104, they are good in the ratings ony because they are the ONLY CHR station around here. I personally think WINK and KRZ/BHT in Scranton/Wilkes Barre sound much better than Wild, but thats the best we got......so far..
Now these guys that have al these translators and still cant pull numbers are gonna look and say "never can this format work." Well, people are putting it to the test, and I have a feeling something is gonna take the jump and give it a shot.
Now these guys that have al these translators and still cant pull numbers are gonna look and say "never can this format work." Well, people are putting it to the test, and I have a feeling something is gonna take the jump and give it a shot.
KRZ is an odd bird... they are all over the board, they are a CHR station that has an oldies show on weekend nights... it always amazed me that with their two signals they couldn't bury BHT, but now that I drive back and forth through NEPA a couple days a week between Bingo and NYC, I realize they can't put the nails in the coffin because teens & 20-somethings turn to BHT when 60's, 70's and 80's turn up on KRZ giving BHT some life. However, if KRZ didn't play that stuff, they'd lose the mass demo appeal that they've had for decades.
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d21ofnj said:DJGurl said:Has anyone been listening to 87.7 FM, WXXW-LP in Binghamton?
I love it! Just awesome!
If there is anyone out there in the know, I want to work for this person!
What were they spinning?
They are spinning classic R&B. Songs from the late 80's through the early 90's. Not heavy on rap, mostly dance tunes and old R&B.
It is just so refreshing to hear this music again. As much as I do appreciate and respect rap, I am not very interested in the newer music.
WXXW brings back so many fond memories of the music I would spin and listen to.
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