djcomp97 said:
Justin Case said:
Wild has been that way much of the Spring, but more so the last month, sometimes it's even distorted and/or a bit snowy (I know thats a tv term, but couldn't think of how to explain the outta tune sound if you adjust the bass or treble to try and clean it up...
i totally agree justin, and danny (scott)... about WILD...omnia bass distortion("enhancement" lol)is evident (to my ears)...and the scenario of removing the 8200, putting an omnia 3 in and swapping it to WAAL back a few years ago..wasnt a bad idea..because omnia and chr/hot ac format sound great when processed by omnia.....BUT..when someone wants WILD 104 to sound like HOT 1079 in syracuse......(omnia 6 is definitely used as a have heard the station up there before when i was in syracuse) however...with an omnia 3...its not easy to duplicate. when set by even the best operator/consultant....trying to keep the agcs all "mum" at a slow pace.. and to not rise suddenly until a specific (yet higher threshold for that PUNCH sound)..and combined with higher "bass enhance"..it distorts if levels are high on the board for an omnia 3 or less than 5 (model) .. i now use an omnia A/XE dsp for now97.com (which is the same as the omnia 3 dsp in a nutshell) and it does the same thing...i have tried to compensate..but the result is always LESS bass with rock/high clip songs if not set more agressive.
OH JUSTIN:
I will compliment whomever set the Q107 omnia...THE MIDBASS IS AWESOME! love the crossover/bandpass setting... sounds really clear and not too low end.very in your face punchy..a little on the "loud" side...but thats the object? right? i still think cool 100 should use orban for oldies as it has a warmer sound..but i'm just a singer in a rock and roll band....lol
AND DANNY(SCOTT)
i did hear the cruisin palooza...IT SOUNDED GREAT! aphex? could not tell cuz i was too far away at the time to get it clear enough..
PALOOZA actually used the Aphex Compellor/Texar Prism/Optimod 8100A combo with my settings. I did not hear it at all, as I was out of town.
Aphex Compellor-
I like slow on the Compellor, just to keep the signal consistent to the Prisms. 'Process balance' two notches from the left, speed switch set to 'slow'. ALWAYS reset the meters to G/R position. It defaults to that useless green and red flashy bullshit when you power it on. It looks impressive, but is useless in determining what the hell it's doing!
I like to feed it with generally about 10dB of G/R. The only thing I don't like about these units is the non-adjustable gain-freeze gating. Sometimes it audibly recovers at the beginning of quiet audio after it's been 'stuck' by a loud sound. Usually not a problem if your source material is fairly consistent.
Texar or Gentner Prims-
-The OLDER version of the Prisms allows the gate control to be turned all the way to the left to DISABLE the 'return to center' behavior... This seems to me the better way to run them when a Compellor is used; It prevents the individual bands from audibly 'hunting' for audio, or attempting to 'gate off' high frequencies. (When Prisms were first made, most source material was still analog and noisy, so this a more desirable operation)
The prisms set with 'GATE' OFF... The gain reduction is set to max at about 12dB in any band (six LED units- they are 2dB each)
The 'DENSITY' control about 1/3 of the way up... Just enough to do gentle 're-equalization' of the signal to condition it for the Optimod.
'MIX LEVEL' controls set with just a little nice smile curve for warmth.
8100A-
Clipping at about +1/2dB. Gotta keep it competitive with the commercial guys, but not too much distortion!
Input for maximum G/R at about 10-12dB. This keeps it in the 'soft knee' range, and creates a more 'open' sound than hitting it to, say 20dB. Besides, the signal is already being squashed by the first two devices!
Release time at '4'... same reason as above.
HF limit near the center.
Bass coupling between '0' and '4', depending on the desire for bass content. The most bass is still achieved at '0', regardless of other settings in the chain.
Note that none of this is with the Texar or Gentner CARD 5 (RCF-1?) installed in the 8100A... I have no experience with that card, but it is supposed to increase the drive to the bass compressor in the Optimod for tighter bottom end.
Although the digital boxes may be hitting louder on the dial, I'll put this setup against any of your Omnias for clean, quality sound. Of course, we're talking about recently refurbished Texars and Optimod. The analog stuff needs to be tweaked once in a while to keep sounding good, and most stations just left them on the air for ten or twenty years without major maintenance.
Yes, this is pretty geeky for a 'part 15' station, but at least my weird hobbies keep me out of trouble. (mostly)
