End of P&K????

[Lexi606]

I'm only a 4-year old in the talk radio scene (It was P&K who drew me in), so I don't know anything about the Greggo case, except what I've read here. However, I get what you are saying about them all having to be tight lipped, but I don't have to like it. On a human/personal level, I'm assuming Pugs and Kelly aren't really able to go to any of their usual stomping grounds without being bombarded by fans wanting answers. I wish them the best...I kind of thought Kelly would be moving to Corpus anyway, and wondered how that would work out for the show.

 

[jasonzbtzl]

Lexi you might be onto something there, they may go to Houston, not sure if that market has a talk scene like DFW.

 

[Jubb05]

I'm not a listener of P&K, tried once but couldn't stand it. However, why are so many quick to assume a lawsuit is in play? Yeah, I've read that she sued over something that happened in Chicago, but apparently someone agreed the case had merit, b/c according to most on here that's the only reason they got this gig.

 

[lilly64]

You don't hang onto a job for 7 years like they did if you don't have an audience. And I'm not buying that the job was part of a settlement. They wouldn't have kept them on for as long as they have. And since when has Ron and Don managed to keep a job for 7 years? They get fired every couple of years from their jobs. I've also had a problem with how Jagger and his crew have handled things whenever P & K's names come up. The laughing and snide remarks. Didn't they just get popped from the Edge a few years ago? If they don't get their ratings where they need to be they'll be out of a job again. And there's a lot more pressure on a morning show to bring in ratings than middays.

 

[Dndsh237]

I'm not a listener of P&K, tried once but couldn't stand it. However, why are so many quick to assume a lawsuit is in play? Yeah, I've read that she sued over something that happened in Chicago, but apparently someone agreed the case had merit, b/c according to most on here that's the only reason they got this gig.

Because if there wasn't, everyone involved would be free to talk about the situation.

 

[Mordac]

I'm not a listener of P&K, tried once but couldn't stand it. However, why are so many quick to assume a lawsuit is in play? Yeah, I've read that she sued over something that happened in Chicago, but apparently someone agreed the case had merit, b/c according to most on here that's the only reason they got this gig.

Because if there wasn't, everyone involved would be free to talk about the situation.

That's not entirely true. Generally speaking anytime ANY company of note releases someone there is a lot of paperwork that has to be signed saying the former employee will not bad mouth the company, or disclose the nature of their severance, the company itself won't disclose nature of their termination, interfere with future business, etc, etc.

 

[Albert19X]

I'm not a listener of P&K, tried once but couldn't stand it. However, why are so many quick to assume a lawsuit is in play? Yeah, I've read that she sued over something that happened in Chicago, but apparently someone agreed the case had merit, b/c according to most on here that's the only reason they got this gig.

Agreed. One lawsuit does not a vexatious suer make. PandK71 sounds like one of Ron and Don's Faithful 51 finally getting some grave-pissing revenge. I listened to Ron and Don during their tenure here and, frankly, they were awful. It was a few hours of Ron (or was it Don?) browbeating an acquiescent Don (or was it Ron?) and Katie, occasionally interrupted by some sad bit. Remember when their signal would get hijacked by a pirate radio station? It was that type of lame highjinx that put R&D on a bicycle out of Dallas.

There are too many wacky radio bits being inflicted on us by manic show hosts and their zoo crews. P&K's talent was being entertaining and funny without having to resort cheap theatrics. I appreciated their style and will miss them in the future. And while they may be off of 105.3 I can't imagine them being on the bench long if they remain in the radio business, either individually or as a team.

 

[cutcrew]

Maybe Pugs and Kelly has decided to be life-coaches now. I am sure the book of P&K will be out really soon. 
Oh maybe. Kelly's mom has convinced her to get a real job because she never thought that the radio show was Kelly's job. Funny ;D

Love the show. I will miss their humor if they have left the air.

 

[ISaidSo]

Just to be clear they did in fact get the show as a lawsuit settlement. That's why they did the show from Chicago when it started...The show was never very good, and it is a good thing that it is gone.. Now the bigger question, how do you get rid of one bad show and replace it with one that is worse?

 

[jasonzbtzl]

Isaidso -

If the show was so bad and had no listeners, why did they get so many advert contracts?? Someone was listening, besides that, what comparable competition did they have in this time slot??? Other than AM.

 

[Lexi606]

Well put, Albert. P&K have never relied on 'bits' or trickery to keep their show interesting. I'm reading a lot of negative comments about their style, so obviously they aren't for everyone. But, they did have a following and seemed to bring in a lot of sponsors: at least as many as the others. I totally agree that we will see them pop up again somewhere.

And, Cutcrew: good one, about the life-coach thing. I wish I had thought of it first!

 

[ChainSmirker]

Isaidso -

If the show was so bad and had no listeners, why did they get so many advert contracts?? Someone was listening, besides that, what comparable competition did they have in this time slot??? Other than AM.

1. Cheap rates
2. No comparable competition in any timeslot. Pugs had/has a voice that always sounded like he was straining to take a dump, and both of them exuded epic levels of cretinous willful ignorance. Nobody could be expected to top it.

 

[ZEN_EVIL]

There had to be another reason for all of this, Not just ratings. I mean, lets be honest, the only control that gavin has on anyone on this station, was that her forced on the mid-day show. He is to star struck with russ and jagger to say anything. I think that his micromanagement probably did the show in, or his need for his KRLD show to pull higher ratings.
Gavin should go back to a smaller market, he is useless here, and his only success is with a show that already has success.

 

[jeffdfw]

Please don't bring Ernie & Jay over to 105.3. Also, why are there so many new posters all of the sudden?

 

[satradio]

When I moved to Dallas almost seven years ago, it was actually Howard Stern that drew me t0 105.3. But it was P&K that kept me listening after Howard's show. I never got Russ Martin and he was always extremely boring and a one trick pony to me. Once Howard left and I got a taste of Sirrius radio, I still would listen to P&K at work, and although I admit the show had gotten a little redundant, I still preferred them over Russ and a little more than Jagger (whom I enjoy somewhat, but am growing tired of that show also) But Frankly, I think the entire station is in jeopardy. I know boring ass Russ and his spawns trumpet his supposed success, but come on, the station is 22 in this market and I never hear anyone discussing 105.3 the way, I've heard people mention the Ticket, for instance..a station I've never listened to. Russ nor anyone else is carrying that station. I'm going to miss P&K, but I think they're not the only ones in trouble. I think we can expect a format change for KLLI soon and I don't really think any of their shows will be missed much. If you're that low in the ratings, not that many people are listening...regardless of what Russ says.

 

[lelia]

Well with all of Jagger's bashing on P&K and the back handed comments that he has made, I turned him off (for good). Mondo always annoyed the F out of me and I could not tolerate him being a "topper" on everything. Russ is getting old. I guess I better find some good pod casts for my ipod or get Sirius.

As for the prev post I made about gaving spinning the wheel, I just come up with the ideas LOL. I have given up on 105.3 now so I wont be listening if he does.

Miss you P&K. :-\

 

[Lexi606]

Russ is a tool. Half of his show consists of his sidekicks and him playing back bits (not in a 'best of': just in a regular show) and songs or JD-comments that sound like they have the "N" word in them. Zero creativity. I can't believe he is half as powerful in the industry as he and his enablers play him up to be. I agree that the whole station is in trouble. On that note, how has Tom Leykis continued to be on the air? Nationally!!! Every phone call sounds the same. Amazing that he can milk that material for as long as he has. I guess that's what makes Russ think he can keep playing things that sound like N****r and everyone will just laugh and laugh...

 

[jasonzbtzl]

Lexi -

Russ succeeds because he appeals to the largest demo of money spending people - 18-54 white males. It's all about numbers and book. If he fails to keep making money for CBS in Dallas, then he will be in trouble, again I don't see that happening, like P&K, who's his competition?? The Ticket??? There are just as many people that don't just want to hear about sports all the time. Don't get me wrong, it's a wildly successful platform, but still does not hit the the same areas of interest RMS does. Why do you think RMS rarely does sports??? They know the audience.

 

[LumpyF]

Lexi -

Russ succeeds because he appeals to the largest demo of money spending people - 18-54 white males. It's all about numbers and book. If he fails to keep making money for CBS in Dallas, then he will be in trouble, again I don't see that happening, like P&K, who's his competition?? The Ticket??? There are just as many people that don't just want to hear about sports all the time. Don't get me wrong, it's a wildly successful platform, but still does not hit the the same areas of interest RMS does. Why do you think RMS rarely does sports??? They know the audience.

This is an excellent point, and serves to show how bad Gavin messed up the P&K show. He made them interview RACE CAR DRIVERS for f**** sake. RACE CAR DRIVERS. For hours and hours. If I wanted to listen to a sports station, I would turn on the Ticket. And, if I did turn on the Ticket and they were talking to a man who drives in circles about driving in circles, I'd turn that right the hell off. Who did Gavin think he was entertaining with that kind of crap? The man is obviously an idiot. He ran the P&K show straight into the ground. He ran off Sybil. He made them do awful remotes from TMS. He made them interview RACE CAR DRIVERS. He thought putting Justin Foster on twice a week was a good idea. All awful ideas. He was just so happy to have a show that he could get his stink all over and not get beaten up by, that he took it over, and because he has horrible taste in talk radio, he ran that show straight into the ground. He does not understand the audience that his station reaches and he deserves to be run out of town.

 

[jeffdfw]

Looks like all of P&K's myspace friends are weighing in. P&K were awful!!!!!!!! Jagger is the only thing worth listening to on 105.3. They need to add modern rock after Jagger and let the rest of the station including our little Gavin go.