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nat king cola said:
I remember before EnergyAZ came into existance, I found out that the new call letters were going to be KNRJ (a nod to the original KNRJ Energy 96.5 out of Houston). At that point, I predicted 101.1 (and 92.7) would become an Energy station (at the time I was hoping for something similar to Energy 92.7 Chicago).
Alas, it seemed like only yesterday, but EAZ did have a good run.
If they really do not keep the dance format, I'm predicting that (if they become 92.7 the Beat) they'll take on a top 40/dance format probably more similar to the old B96 in Chicago when it was playing dance currents, rather than a Movin' type format.
Maybe Scottsdale's 106.7 community radio station can move to playing more dance? Or Movin 97-5? Or some station could move in and try the format on a better signal? The radio market will never be the same without Energy.
Saladressing said:
But with Energy rarely even showing up in the ratings book…what incentive would those other stations have to add Energy-type music?
2Son said:
I was just making a suggestion to the EAZ listeners and whoever else reads this post that there is another dance station among the others that are out there.
I thought I would post this here for the people in Phoenix that are going to miss ENERGY. We have an all dance station that airs
live from 9PM-5AM central time seven days a week(they start an hour earlier on Saturday night). It's called Dance Factory Radio.
They stream live at www.dancefactoryfm.com. They are on the air here in Chicago on 99.9, 92.7 and 92.5. I don't know if someone
had already mentioned this so I thought I would through it out there for you.
live from 9PM-5AM central time seven days a week(they start an hour earlier on Saturday night). It's called Dance Factory Radio.
They stream live at www.dancefactoryfm.com. They are on the air here in Chicago on 99.9, 92.7 and 92.5. I don't know if someone
had already mentioned this so I thought I would through it out there for you.
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azenergyfan
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Now the ultimate would be for dance factory to air on movin here in phoenix at night and overnights. Movin could still keep their a/c type approach during the day but go more current at night. Plus they wouldn't have to worry bout hiring local talent since they could just pipe in the show from chi town.
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maximumradio
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"Movin" is a format that is copywritten and has to be paid for. Even the satellite version of the format has additional charges for the consultantcy that developed it.That is to say that it is highly unlikely that they will make any musical variations. One question though: If a full service Phoenix FM was to place an all Dance format on an HD-2 channel how many of you would run out and purchase an HD receiver to listen? Just curious(lol)...
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MASTER_CONTROL
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Dance is a niche format (along with smooth jazz and AAA) whether you like it or not, so the audience draw isn't as large... thus ratings and revenue won't be at maximum potential.
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azenergyfan
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Driving around today listening to Energy is kinda hard to swallow knowing that in a week this will be no more. I heard that they have put feelers out to anyone who has ever been on the air at Energy for one final blowout next friday, I sure hope that materializes. Also heard there may be a blow out party for energy at some club next friday. This station has much more listeners than most people on this board indicate. This station is known throughout the valley and really the downfall is the signal. Dance is a niche format but dance music is a format many go to whether online, satellite or free radio.
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AZOOTEN
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Yes Energy does have more listeners than this board could see.
problem is, everyone rates a stations popularity by "The Books" which for some reason do not make it into the hands of the general public.
and yes if Energy had been placed on a more decent signal, they would have had even more listeners.
and everyone calls it a "Niche" format, well in all actuality all formats are "Niche" formats.
there's classic rock, classic hits, country, hard rock, soft rock and everything else in between.
Im just glad, that through all the years of listening to energy, I had the foresight to download all the songs I liked hearing on there and putting them on my ipod.
So what will I listen to after energy, you guessed it, MY iPod.
and about this new supposed 92.7 The beat! It won't have any major listenership either.
in fact anything you put on 92.7 or 101.1 without a signal upgrade is just Doomed!
Face it, nobody will listen to a crap signal unless that crap signal is delivering a really rare "Niche" format like "Energy"
because if I wanted to hear the latest and greates hits from rock or country, i could easily tune to a much more powerful signal.
the only thing that could survive or bring in any kind of faithful support on such a totally crap signal, like 92.7 and 101.1 would be the most rarest of "Niche" formats.
like Dance, or Industrial, or Goth or maybe even AAA since we don't have an AAA in phoenix.
but nothing mainstream can compete with the bigger signals face it that's the facts.
101.1 is a 70,000 watt station transmitting from up near pine/strawberry,az about all you could really do with that is put a mainstream format on that and aim it at Rim Country.
it can't reach phoenix with enough "Energy" to really make a difference.
and 92.7 is a joke, I had a pirate transmitter as a kid with about the same wattage, come on get real.
I was running an extreme eclectic alternative rock format on 91.9 in cleveland,ohio only on saturday nights, did it for the fun.
and even had a few listeners.
but this is commercial radio and "energy" should have realized that and done something to upgrade that signal.
now they are closing the doors, it's there own fault.
So good-bye energy, was nice knowin ya.
problem is, everyone rates a stations popularity by "The Books" which for some reason do not make it into the hands of the general public.
and yes if Energy had been placed on a more decent signal, they would have had even more listeners.
and everyone calls it a "Niche" format, well in all actuality all formats are "Niche" formats.
there's classic rock, classic hits, country, hard rock, soft rock and everything else in between.
Im just glad, that through all the years of listening to energy, I had the foresight to download all the songs I liked hearing on there and putting them on my ipod.
So what will I listen to after energy, you guessed it, MY iPod.
and about this new supposed 92.7 The beat! It won't have any major listenership either.
in fact anything you put on 92.7 or 101.1 without a signal upgrade is just Doomed!
Face it, nobody will listen to a crap signal unless that crap signal is delivering a really rare "Niche" format like "Energy"
because if I wanted to hear the latest and greates hits from rock or country, i could easily tune to a much more powerful signal.
the only thing that could survive or bring in any kind of faithful support on such a totally crap signal, like 92.7 and 101.1 would be the most rarest of "Niche" formats.
like Dance, or Industrial, or Goth or maybe even AAA since we don't have an AAA in phoenix.
but nothing mainstream can compete with the bigger signals face it that's the facts.
101.1 is a 70,000 watt station transmitting from up near pine/strawberry,az about all you could really do with that is put a mainstream format on that and aim it at Rim Country.
it can't reach phoenix with enough "Energy" to really make a difference.
and 92.7 is a joke, I had a pirate transmitter as a kid with about the same wattage, come on get real.
I was running an extreme eclectic alternative rock format on 91.9 in cleveland,ohio only on saturday nights, did it for the fun.
and even had a few listeners.
but this is commercial radio and "energy" should have realized that and done something to upgrade that signal.
now they are closing the doors, it's there own fault.
So good-bye energy, was nice knowin ya.
AZOOTEN said:
Sometimes, there's only SO much you can do to a signal.
The 92.7 signal is a translator and a Class D, therefore unprotected.. can't cause any interference. You might be able to upgrade the power, but even then.. the signal won't be that good.
And with 101.1, you can only do sio much with it,, the CP they have helps the signal in Phoenix a bunch.... but sometimes just because 100.9, 101.1 and 101.3 in your area is "clear" on the radio doesn't mean a station can actually fit in there.
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AZOOTEN
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Also I wonder what there going to do with the 92.7 translator.
Can I have it?
Would be fun to take a desktop pc up there to the facilty on south mountain and program it as a really freaky eclectic Dance/alterantive electro-break beat freaky industrial revolutianary sounding station.
But I really don't think phoenix or anywhere is really ready for radio like that yet.
hehehe ;D
Can I have it?
Would be fun to take a desktop pc up there to the facilty on south mountain and program it as a really freaky eclectic Dance/alterantive electro-break beat freaky industrial revolutianary sounding station.
But I really don't think phoenix or anywhere is really ready for radio like that yet.
hehehe ;D
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AZOOTEN
Guest
Radioguy: So what happened to 92.7 it used to be listenable.
I remember when I could hear 92.7 clearly on my car radio and my company work truck all the way past the 101 and 17 interchange all the way to about carefree highway till it started to fade.
and I caught 92.7 on the company truck one day driving east into the town of superior,az probably reflecting off that big mountain behind the town, but it was clearly audible.
and quite surprising being they only have 10 watts.
but something has happened to that translator in the past few years, first it was plagued by major distortion/multipath problems, then now it's losing power, now it barely makes it to 75th avenue.
anyone know what the problem is with it.
maybe old age and lack of maintenance.
being its only a 10 watt translator, i doubt if its some huge piece of equiptment, probably something no bigger than an average CB radio base station at most, hooked to a simple dipole antennat somewhere in the antenna farm on south mountain.
I remember when I could hear 92.7 clearly on my car radio and my company work truck all the way past the 101 and 17 interchange all the way to about carefree highway till it started to fade.
and I caught 92.7 on the company truck one day driving east into the town of superior,az probably reflecting off that big mountain behind the town, but it was clearly audible.
and quite surprising being they only have 10 watts.
but something has happened to that translator in the past few years, first it was plagued by major distortion/multipath problems, then now it's losing power, now it barely makes it to 75th avenue.
anyone know what the problem is with it.
maybe old age and lack of maintenance.
being its only a 10 watt translator, i doubt if its some huge piece of equiptment, probably something no bigger than an average CB radio base station at most, hooked to a simple dipole antennat somewhere in the antenna farm on south mountain.
AZOOTEN said:
Actually, the translator probably consists of:
a directionial recieve yagi antenna with some gain
tons of coax cable
a pretty decent recieve radio tuned to 101.1 .. a raido with good selectivity and sensitivity (they dont come cheap)
a transmitter about the size of half a microwave
an audio processor
and a 2 bay antenna.
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Radiojunkie05
Guest
Energy is my favorite station. They messed up when they stop mixing live (dont know if it was truly live). I remember DJ Shy mixing in the morning he was a terrible on air jock but a good mixer. I thought Randy and Greggy D were good jocks. Dj Lysa D and Dj Dre with the Energizer Mix that was my FAVORITE mix show. Elements with Rod Carillo is good too he sent me the ELEMENTS cd a few years ago its awesome! Didnt really care for MikeO. Im not a big fan of really old dance music so the noon mix with Perry wasnt all that to me and I'm usually at lunch at noon so i was away from the radio. I like Perrys mixes of the newer dance.
Anywho I will miss the station. :'( Kid and Ruben if they're really are going to be on the air on the new format its just going to turn it into a morning talk station with their boring tired jokes and laughs and talk and talk bla bla bla. I wanna keep more music mornings on energy thats how I make it through work and 92.7 comes in very clear on that early 80's jcpenny radio we have at work haha. I'll stop crying now. Thank You Sierra H for a wonderful six years!
jose
Anywho I will miss the station. :'( Kid and Ruben if they're really are going to be on the air on the new format its just going to turn it into a morning talk station with their boring tired jokes and laughs and talk and talk bla bla bla. I wanna keep more music mornings on energy thats how I make it through work and 92.7 comes in very clear on that early 80's jcpenny radio we have at work haha. I'll stop crying now. Thank You Sierra H for a wonderful six years!
jose
maximumradio said:
I would.
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maximumradio
Guest
A word about translators: I am not going to say that this is the case in Phoenix since I have no personal knowledge of this having happened but in many markets translators are known to have been operated well above licensed power. If a 10 watt translator happens to have been equipped with a higher power transmitter--say a 30 watt tranamitter and a two bay antenna and is operated at 30 watts the signal will be somewhat better than at 10 watts...lets say that the translator licensee built the facility to be capable of operating with 100 watts and thinking that he would never be caught powered it up to have 100 watts of operating power (100w ERP). You would be heard all over the central corridor and well into the East and West sections of the Valey. I can assure you that when "Mr. Enforcement" drops by with a one time warning that the translator licensee backs his power down to the authorized power and all of a suddent folks are wondering why the translator has all the coverage of a ToysRus radio transmitter. Not saying that this happened with 92.7 but it has happened in many markets.
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