FCC is a joke !

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

True, I don't know whether they're making money or not; I was responding to a, perhaps, hypothetical scenario laid out by rapking. If they are, to quote Rapking, "making big bucks", the reasons I outlined are not expenses said "operator" is paying, therefore adding to the , supposed, bottom line.

Discussing the existence of pirate radio is like discussing the existence of prostitution. I don't know that big buck and healthy bottom line (No double entendre intended!) is part of the logic in either discussion. The questions are: (1) is either activity good for the community. (2) does either activity actually build the general welfare of society?

 

[nd2023]

I'd rather be approached by hookers than hear pirate stations when I'm trying to DX. At least I can ignore hookers.

 

[rapking]

I'd rather be approached by hookers than hear pirate stations when I'm trying to DX. At least I can ignore hookers.

Hookers = Drugs . Drugs = Robberies . Robberies = Shootings. Shootings = Killings . I will take Pirate Radio anytime over Hookers .

 

[Don Juan]

I'd rather be approached by hookers than hear pirate stations when I'm trying to DX. At least I can ignore hookers.

Hookers = Drugs . Drugs = Robberies . Robberies = Shootings. Shootings = Killings .

It all starts with an attitude...that "the laws don't apply to me".

And the attitude of "I deserve this more than someone else".

 

[mistermicrophone]

True, I don't know whether they're making money or not; I was responding to a, perhaps, hypothetical scenario laid out by rapking. If they are, to quote Rapking, "making big bucks", the reasons I outlined are not expenses said "operator" is paying, therefore adding to the , supposed, bottom line.

Discussing the existence of pirate radio is like discussing the existence of prostitution. I don't know that big buck and healthy bottom line (No double entendre intended!) is part of the logic in either discussion. The questions are: (1) is either activity good for the community. (2) does either activity actually build the general welfare of society?

Once again, I was outlining a possible scenario in which this operator, according to rapking, was making "big bucks". I was not saying this station is a cash cow nor was I discussing their bottom line as listed in a trade publication. I was simply stating a few reasons as to how this illegal station is not paying the expenses of a legit radio station.

 

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

I was simply stating a few reasons as to how this illegal station is not paying the expenses of a legit radio station.

Help us understand what you are saying. You may be on-target when you point out a pirate station may be able to sidestep some of the expenses that are paid by a "traditional" station. If that is true, what does it mean to our conversation. Does that fact make a pirate station more legitimate, or more illegal?

Let's turn the flagstone over and see what kind of insects are clinging to the other side. Is there a possibility the pirate station has to pay some expenses the traditional station does not pay? Extra lega fees to keep the local zoning people off his back. High facility rent because he cannot commit to a long term lease? Maybe some payoffs to local officials to keep them from shutting down the pirate operation for NON-BROADCAST, NON-FCC issues such as zoning, failure to get electrical permits for the install, doing business in a residential zone. Does that possibility make a pirate station more legitimate, or more illegal?

 

[mistermicrophone]

I was simply stating a few reasons as to how this illegal station is not paying the expenses of a legit radio station.

Help us understand what you are saying. You may be on-target when you point out a pirate station may be able to sidestep some of the expenses that are paid by a "traditional" station. If that is true, what does it mean to our conversation. Does that fact make a pirate station more legitimate, or more illegal?

Let's turn the flagstone over and see what kind of insects are clinging to the other side. Is there a possibility the pirate station has to pay some expenses the traditional station does not pay? Extra lega fees to keep the local zoning people off his back. High facility rent because he cannot commit to a long term lease? Maybe some payoffs to local officials to keep them from shutting down the pirate operation for NON-BROADCAST, NON-FCC issues such as zoning, failure to get electrical permits for the install, doing business in a residential zone. Does that possibility make a pirate station more legitimate, or more illegal?

My original post was within the ebb and flow of the thread. I responded to a post by rapking about the station making "big bucks" and I have been defending what I posted since. I'm not quite sure where you're going with your line of questioning...but...

Plain and simple, illegal is illegal and no amount of profit can change that or create any sense of legitimacy. To go back to what I said earlier, (most) drug dealers make a lot of money, that doesn't legitimize the "service" they provide. If there officials that are helping these stations operate (as you addressed in your last post), then they need to be punished too just as a rouge cop who turns a blind eye (for a profit) should be punished too.

 

[Goat Rodeo Cowboy]

Help us understand what you are saying. You may be on-target when you point out a pirate station may be able to sidestep some of the expenses that are paid by a "traditional" station. If that is true, what does it mean to our conversation. Does that fact make a pirate station more legitimate, or more illegal?

No, no, no. I'm on YOUR side of the discussion. I try not to write with big emotional outbursts and it is easy to miss my point sometimes.

Others have been saying since pirate radio makes big money, that makes it the right way to go, the preferred way to go.

No. Pirate by definition is illegal, anti-social and highly impolite.

 

[mescutia]

There are repercussions if they don't pay.

Let's hope there are also repercussions for Mumbles for doing business with them.

I'm still amazed that NONE of his opponents in last year's election attacked him for it. He's doing business with criminals! It's a scandal!

Maybe some payoffs to local officials to keep them from shutting down the pirate operation for NON-BROADCAST, NON-FCC issues such as zoning, failure to get electrical permits for the install, doing business in a residential zone. Does that possibility make a pirate station more legitimate, or more illegal?

More illegal, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but last I heard, bribing public officials was a crime in most states, if not a federal offense.

 

[mistermicrophone]

Help us understand what you are saying. You may be on-target when you point out a pirate station may be able to sidestep some of the expenses that are paid by a "traditional" station. If that is true, what does it mean to our conversation. Does that fact make a pirate station more legitimate, or more illegal?

No, no, no. I'm on YOUR side of the discussion. I try not to write with big emotional outbursts and it is easy to miss my point sometimes.

Others have been saying since pirate radio makes big money, that makes it the right way to go, the preferred way to go.

No. Pirate by definition is illegal, anti-social and highly impolite.

Long winded with big emotional outbursts...and in radio...NEVER!! I think we're on the same and I'll drop the pipe the next time it passes me in the circle!?!

 

[johnster]

I have been listening to 87.7 the last few days and I know they are a pirate but besides that I can't believe the programming. Folks yelling and acting like they have very limited vocabularies. I guess it's the way Hip Hop folks are supposed to talk but it sounds ridiculous on the radio. Yelling with bad grammar. When folks try to paint these pirates as if they serve some sort of community purpose is this it?? Acting like the community is illiterate on purpose to be cool. Rapking I don't see it...They sound like fools screaming into a mic. References to booty calls... women referred to as shorties and heap full of YO, YO YO's. That's a great community service.

 

[WLYNWAZNgm]

...and then some wonder why a legitimate station does not
want to buy into this mess? crap monarch -
the biggest joke of all!

 

[rapking]

And Boston talk Radio ( "Hate Radio" Deval Patrick ) is good for Boston community.

 

[Don Juan]

And Boston talk Radio ( "Hate Radio" Deval Patrick ) is good for Boston community.

Of course, anything you disagree with is "hate radio".

 

[rapking]

And Boston talk Radio ( "Hate Radio" Deval Patrick ) is good for Boston community.

Of course, anything you disagree with is "hate radio".

MA Governor called Boston Talk radio " Hate Radio".

 

[Don Juan]

And Boston talk Radio ( "Hate Radio" Deval Patrick ) is good for Boston community.

Of course, anything you disagree with is "hate radio".

MA Governor called Boston Talk radio " Hate Radio".

And of course he's always right.

 

[Wbzfm2010]

why dont they swear on pirate radio!!!

 

[rapking]

why dont they swear on pirate radio!!!

Because Boston's Pirate fans ( like me ) dont want to hear it . I am sure there are other Pirate Stations outside the Boston area that does play uncut music ( and a swearing DJ ).

 

[trock]

I have been listening to 87.7 the last few days and I know they are a pirate but besides that I can't believe the programming. Folks yelling and acting like they have very limited vocabularies. I guess it's the way Hip Hop folks are supposed to talk but it sounds ridiculous on the radio. Yelling with bad grammar. When folks try to paint these pirates as if they serve some sort of community purpose is this it?? Acting like the community is illiterate on purpose to be cool. Rapking I don't see it...They sound like fools screaming into a mic. References to booty calls... women referred to as shorties and heap full of YO, YO YO's. That's a great community service.

Hot 87.7 is a business period. They play more commercials than my local urban does and that's saying something. They don't really make any pretense of being anything other than that. As for their "limited vocabulary" they use a lot of street slang which might not work for Johnster but it definitely works for inner city youths and young adults which is their target audience. Touch 106 is probably the more community oriented "pirate".

 

[mistermicrophone]

And Boston talk Radio ( "Hate Radio" Deval Patrick ) is good for Boston community.

I did hear a debate amongst the three gubernatorial candidates on a Boston talk station last week or the week before, which obviously included Deval "6.25%" Patrick. I'd say that was good for the community.