Probably none of them, at least without removing the radio and updating firmware via USB or some other interface. I've never heard of a radio sold in the US that has that capability built in. The tuner chips may support it, but if a tree falls in the forest....
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FCC to consider ongoing operation of existing FM6/Franken FMs, Expanded FM Band and Elimination of Reserved Band Protection Requirements
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If this expansion was to happen, it would be an abject failure. Too many people would be unable to listen to these frequencies and therefore these stations would be failures and force many of them off the air. I just don't see people rushing out to the stores or their local auto dealer trying to get a radio that'll tune in to these new spots on the FM dial. Let's just leave things as they are. It's been working very well for so long and everyone is very familiar with it. To make any changes now, would only lead to many great sounding radio stations being forced off the air, due to not being able to tune in.
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P.S. I'm not going to rush out to my local Wal-Mart store or Auto dealer just to get a radio that'll tune in to these new spots, if approved. Going to stay where I am, for as long as I can. It's worked for me over the past six years now and I see no need to change it.
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P.S. I'm not going to rush out to my local Wal-Mart store or Auto dealer just to get a radio that'll tune in to these new spots, if approved. Going to stay where I am, for as long as I can. It's worked for me over the past six years now and I see no need to change it.
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Destined to fail. If this idea were implemented, people such as myself would be forced off the air. As many have stated, the radios we have now are unable to tune to those low spots. Besides that, many of us won't be rushing out to a local radio store or auto dealer just to get one that'll do it. Many of us still like the way the radio is now and making changes would only lead to many issues. I still love working in the LPFM business. Been doing it for six years now and see no signs of giving up. I'm better served at my current spot. To relocate me would only lead to my quick closing. If I had to shut down this broadcast, I would be at great loss and would never recover from it completely. I love this business and enjoy my job. Not ready to retire yet.
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P.S. If a radio station has no listeners and money coming in, that broadcast would be forced off the air. Think about that and have a nice day.
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P.S. If a radio station has no listeners and money coming in, that broadcast would be forced off the air. Think about that and have a nice day.
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Here's two constants:
Change is inevitable, but
There will always be heels to be dragged, and sometimes for good reason.
Change is inevitable, but
There will always be heels to be dragged, and sometimes for good reason.
Does E-bay sales count? If so, I could name a few. In physical stores, however, it's a pain to even find a "regular" radio. Then again, you can't find most things in person anymore.
Based on past habits, at least before smartphones became the norm, about twenty five years.
Sounds about right. I know there are a couple of truly successful X-band AM stations that are successful (KCJJ for one) but, a second FM band's time came and went in the 80s. Even then I'm not sure how it would have been implemented.
Does even one person carry their phone AND a Walkman? It won't happen because there's FM 82.1
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Harvey_Dogg
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MB Docket 03-185 is about whether or not LP Channel 6 stations should be allowed to keep broadcasting analogue audio at the edge of the FM band. NPR wants them to go away.
I think if the FCC was going to expand FM down to 82.1 or 76.1 that would be a separate Docket. There was once a proposal to move all the LPFM's down to 76 MHz. I strongly opposed this because I thought it would kill LPFM. There were no radios that would tune that in. It was about 20 years ago.
There are those in this industry who would certainly like to kick LPFM out of the commercial band and kill it.
I think if the FCC was going to expand FM down to 82.1 or 76.1 that would be a separate Docket. There was once a proposal to move all the LPFM's down to 76 MHz. I strongly opposed this because I thought it would kill LPFM. There were no radios that would tune that in. It was about 20 years ago.
There are those in this industry who would certainly like to kick LPFM out of the commercial band and kill it.
The issue NPR has is these stations, such as WRME in Chicago, are operating as commercial stations in the non-commercial band. It appears that the FCC wants to make these stations non-commercial. So that would settle NPR's issue.
Not true. WRME is licensed as a television station. It operates on channel 6. 87.75 isn't a non-commercial FM frequency.
Don't confuse Michi's lobbying effort on behalf of REC with what the FCC wants to do. The commission knows who butters the Media Bureau's bread, and it isn't NCE or LPFM.
But that's the issue. They're using a loophole in the law to run a commercial radio station. The proposal, as detailed in the OP, is to make all of those stations non-com. I imagine Weigel won't like that idea.
Understood. Actually the FCC doesn't care where the money comes from as long as they get paid.
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Harvey_Dogg
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Michi's long been a friend to LPFM and the community radio movement and has provided tools and information for free.
Some LPFM's are successful and popular. It works very well in small towns and medium sized cities.
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Harvey_Dogg
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TV audio would sound like an under modulated station on FM. I would expect it to flutter in the car.
Border issues are being taken into consideration. The REC rough draft concept proposes that the FCC negotiate for the 27 dBu interfering contour not crossing another country, regardless of whether they have a Channel 6 or not. Mexico may be an easy sell.. Canada may have some issues.
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Harvey_Dogg
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I think where some of us disagree is the future of radio. Some see it like a slowly sinking boat. Others think it still has a bright future.
I think as long as us old dogs are still alive and kicking and out of the nursing home or grave, it is still relevant.
I think as long as us old dogs are still alive and kicking and out of the nursing home or grave, it is still relevant.
In this NPRM, the FCC is only exploring the concept of an extended FM band as an option. If the FCC was to seriously consider expanding the FM band, there would need to be another NPRM (either a Further NPRM in 03-185 or in a new docket) to discuss service rules.
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I think adding 87.9 and 87.7 to the NCE Band would not hurt a thing. Most radios will go there. But if we try to expand the band down to 82.1 or 76.1 MHz., you will likely have the NAB and more advocating moving the LPFM's into nowhere land.
I think an expanded FM band could work. We have 47 FM signals in Charleston that come in all the time, and that doesn’t include tropo that brings in stations from Myrtle Beach, Columbia, Savannah and Florida almost every day in the summer.
We have LPs littering our dial, including one that is literally a simulcast of a local AM station running the same Catholic programming. Meanwhile there are maybe 2 AMs that have any listenership, both among 65+.
We have LPs littering our dial, including one that is literally a simulcast of a local AM station running the same Catholic programming. Meanwhile there are maybe 2 AMs that have any listenership, both among 65+.
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