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Food Network fires Paula Deen

MarcB said:
Smithfield fired her as their spokesman and Sears in considering pulling her products. (As if Sears doesn't have enough problems).

I guess she would have to sell them the Avon route.
I heard she voted for Obama, and cooked up some of her dishes for the first lady that were not on her healthy choices for American's plan. People who are in that same party who seems to think that something someone said 20 plus years ago matters.
 
willdav713 said:
MarcB said:
Smithfield fired her as their spokesman and Sears in considering pulling her products. (As if Sears doesn't have enough problems).

I guess she would have to sell them the Avon route.
I heard she voted for Obama, and cooked up some of her dishes for the first lady that were not on her healthy choices for American's plan. People who are in that same party who seems to think that something someone said 20 plus years ago matters.

A lot of folks out there riding with just that one bank robbery anecdote, asking 'What's the big deal'? All while ignoring that it's part of a deposition in a much, much, much more detailed discrimination lawsuit. Read the PDF rnigma posted, and realize what you're defending if a mere quarter of this complaint is accurate:
rnigma said:
There were a lot more than just racist remarks going on, if the legal complaint Lisa Jackson filed is true:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/148781831/Jackson-v-Deen-Et-Al-Complaint
 
Nate Wesley said:
willdav713 said:
MarcB said:
Smithfield fired her as their spokesman and Sears in considering pulling her products. (As if Sears doesn't have enough problems).

I guess she would have to sell them the Avon route.
I heard she voted for Obama, and cooked up some of her dishes for the first lady that were not on her healthy choices for American's plan. People who are in that same party who seems to think that something someone said 20 plus years ago matters.

A lot of folks out there riding with just that one bank robbery anecdote, asking 'What's the big deal'? All while ignoring that it's part of a deposition in a much, much, much more detailed discrimination lawsuit. Read the PDF rnigma posted, and realize what you're defending if a mere quarter of this complaint is accurate:
rnigma said:
There were a lot more than just racist remarks going on, if the legal complaint Lisa Jackson filed is true:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/148781831/Jackson-v-Deen-Et-Al-Complaint

It's about time someone posted the entire deposition on this site. Too many on here want to neophyte on social issues with "oh but she only used the word once a long time ago...". I had read whole thing last weekend. Anyone whom defends somebody that has been accused of this type of BS is someone whom is OK with being complicit and giving tacit consent to bigotry...plain and simple
 
kilamanjero said:
Nate Wesley said:
willdav713 said:
MarcB said:
Smithfield fired her as their spokesman and Sears in considering pulling her products. (As if Sears doesn't have enough problems).

I guess she would have to sell them the Avon route.
I heard she voted for Obama, and cooked up some of her dishes for the first lady that were not on her healthy choices for American's plan. People who are in that same party who seems to think that something someone said 20 plus years ago matters.

A lot of folks out there riding with just that one bank robbery anecdote, asking 'What's the big deal'? All while ignoring that it's part of a deposition in a much, much, much more detailed discrimination lawsuit. Read the PDF rnigma posted, and realize what you're defending if a mere quarter of this complaint is accurate:
rnigma said:
There were a lot more than just racist remarks going on, if the legal complaint Lisa Jackson filed is true:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/148781831/Jackson-v-Deen-Et-Al-Complaint

It's about time someone posted the entire deposition on this site. Too many on here want to neophyte on social issues with "oh but she only used the word once a long time ago...". I had read whole thing last weekend. Anyone whom defends somebody that has been accused of this type of BS is someone whom is OK with being complicit and giving tacit consent to bigotry...plain and simple

Why didn't the health department close the restaurant? If these allegations were true? I am trying to play Nancy Grace here after reading the petition filed with the courts. Are the attorneys fabricating this? I was not there, but I don't rush too hastily to judgement. We had in our state the FBI investigate a lawyer by the name of Marc G. Rosenthal on RICO statues.

Any surveillance tapes pulled by the prosecution?, I would like to see those tapes as a famous TV Judge would say.

I also don't get the remarks aimed at Obama whereas Deen campaigned for Obama, something doesn't make since.
 
The upside is I've been getting treated to free coffee for stopping by people's houses to lock out Food Network and their affiliated channels from people's cable and satellite boxes. She has her fans and they are a p.o'ed bunch, that's for sure.
 
Bill DeFelice said:
The upside is I've been getting treated to free coffee for stopping by people's houses to lock out Food Network and their affiliated channels from people's cable and satellite boxes. She has her fans and they are a p.o'ed bunch, that's for sure.

You mean people don't know how to use the parental control features on their boxes? Like I always said before the time for A la Carte is here.

As for Jackson or Deen, I don't know who to believe at this point, I need more evidence other than hearsay, rumors, or mere speculation.


On the upside this gives Nancy Grace something to do besides cover the Sanford Florida v. Zimmerman trial.

I can't stomach MSNBC, most of the time my TV is tuned to Fox News or C-SPAN, with the exception of Encore Suspense which has Diagnosis Murder and Alfred Hitchcock on weekdays, and if Nancy Grace covers the trial of Jackson v. Deen I will be watching.
 
willdav713 said:
kilamanjero said:
Nate Wesley said:
willdav713 said:
MarcB said:
Smithfield fired her as their spokesman and Sears in considering pulling her products. (As if Sears doesn't have enough problems).

I guess she would have to sell them the Avon route.
I heard she voted for Obama, and cooked up some of her dishes for the first lady that were not on her healthy choices for American's plan. People who are in that same party who seems to think that something someone said 20 plus years ago matters.

A lot of folks out there riding with just that one bank robbery anecdote, asking 'What's the big deal'? All while ignoring that it's part of a deposition in a much, much, much more detailed discrimination lawsuit. Read the PDF rnigma posted, and realize what you're defending if a mere quarter of this complaint is accurate:
rnigma said:
There were a lot more than just racist remarks going on, if the legal complaint Lisa Jackson filed is true:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/148781831/Jackson-v-Deen-Et-Al-Complaint

It's about time someone posted the entire deposition on this site. Too many on here want to neophyte on social issues with "oh but she only used the word once a long time ago...". I had read whole thing last weekend. Anyone whom defends somebody that has been accused of this type of BS is someone whom is OK with being complicit and giving tacit consent to bigotry...plain and simple

Why didn't the health department close the restaurant? If these allegations were true? I am trying to play Nancy Grace here after reading the petition filed with the courts. Are the attorneys fabricating this? I was not there, but I don't rush too hastily to judgement. We had in our state the FBI investigate a lawyer by the name of Marc G. Rosenthal on RICO statues.

Any surveillance tapes pulled by the prosecution?, I would like to see those tapes as a famous TV Judge would say.

I also don't get the remarks aimed at Obama whereas Deen campaigned for Obama, something doesn't make since.

Uh, the documents show what Paula Deen said herself in the deposition, so unless she lied (and that would be perjury and can result criminal charges) it has to upheld as her testimony. Secondly, what does the health department have to do with this? No where in that shows there were actual health code violations, so the health department being association is non-germane. Your comments about surveillance is pointless considering those wouldn't prove a thing in the court of law in this case. Finally, Deen is not her brother so what does have anything to do with anything? Just because Deen herself campaigned for anyone doesn't mean her brother cannot have his own (different) perspective of things.

You are not making any kind of sense. Also don't attempt to "play Nancy Grace" because she never makes any type of sense either.
 
kilamanjero said:
willdav713 said:
kilamanjero said:
Nate Wesley said:
willdav713 said:
MarcB said:
Smithfield fired her as their spokesman and Sears in considering pulling her products. (As if Sears doesn't have enough problems).

I guess she would have to sell them the Avon route.
I heard she voted for Obama, and cooked up some of her dishes for the first lady that were not on her healthy choices for American's plan. People who are in that same party who seems to think that something someone said 20 plus years ago matters.

A lot of folks out there riding with just that one bank robbery anecdote, asking 'What's the big deal'? All while ignoring that it's part of a deposition in a much, much, much more detailed discrimination lawsuit. Read the PDF rnigma posted, and realize what you're defending if a mere quarter of this complaint is accurate:
rnigma said:
There were a lot more than just racist remarks going on, if the legal complaint Lisa Jackson filed is true:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/148781831/Jackson-v-Deen-Et-Al-Complaint

It's about time someone posted the entire deposition on this site. Too many on here want to neophyte on social issues with "oh but she only used the word once a long time ago...". I had read whole thing last weekend. Anyone whom defends somebody that has been accused of this type of BS is someone whom is OK with being complicit and giving tacit consent to bigotry...plain and simple

Why didn't the health department close the restaurant? If these allegations were true? I am trying to play Nancy Grace here after reading the petition filed with the courts. Are the attorneys fabricating this? I was not there, but I don't rush too hastily to judgement. We had in our state the FBI investigate a lawyer by the name of Marc G. Rosenthal on RICO statues.

Any surveillance tapes pulled by the prosecution?, I would like to see those tapes as a famous TV Judge would say.

I also don't get the remarks aimed at Obama whereas Deen campaigned for Obama, something doesn't make since.

Uh, the documents show what Paula Deen said herself in the deposition, so unless she lied (and that would be perjury and can result criminal charges) it has to upheld as her testimony. Secondly, what does the health department have to do with this? No where in that shows there were actual health code violations, so the health department being association is non-germane. Your comments about surveillance is pointless considering those wouldn't prove a thing in the court of law in this case. Finally, Deen is not her brother so what does have anything to do with anything? Just because Deen herself campaigned for anyone doesn't mean her brother cannot have his own (different) perspective of things.

You are not making any kind of sense. Also don't attempt to "play Nancy Grace" because she never makes any type of sense either.

It depends on the local health codes, also if I were Jackson, why would I continue employment with that entity? It is still hearsay, and as far as the disposition she had some bad lawyer ring on her part. Also if I were Jackson I would have immediately contacted the police and made a report after discovering the numerous violations of law. Most businesses today have surveillance systems installed, and pulling the tapes from the business by subpoena makes sense cameras make the silent witness that is impartial and fair a fundamental right we all have under the Constitution which seems to be sadly ignored these days, and as far as Nancy Grace making sense that is your opinion, but Nancy Grace has trial court experience, do you have trial court experience?

Aren't we per summed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law?
 
umfan said:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd....x403/1011306_597674503606319_1580426030_n.jpg

The picture at the above link kind of synopsizes the issue quite well, I think.

That is not why they dropped her...read the deposition and then you will see why...

http://www.businessinsider.com/paula-deen-accuser-this-has-never-been-about-the-n-word-2013-7

So stop with the BS because this situation is bigger than one damn word. There are accusations of sexism and sexual harassment in addition to possible racially bias actions.
 
willdav713 said:
kilamanjero said:
willdav713 said:
kilamanjero said:
Nate Wesley said:
willdav713 said:
MarcB said:
Smithfield fired her as their spokesman and Sears in considering pulling her products. (As if Sears doesn't have enough problems).

I guess she would have to sell them the Avon route.
I heard she voted for Obama, and cooked up some of her dishes for the first lady that were not on her healthy choices for American's plan. People who are in that same party who seems to think that something someone said 20 plus years ago matters.

A lot of folks out there riding with just that one bank robbery anecdote, asking 'What's the big deal'? All while ignoring that it's part of a deposition in a much, much, much more detailed discrimination lawsuit. Read the PDF rnigma posted, and realize what you're defending if a mere quarter of this complaint is accurate:
rnigma said:
There were a lot more than just racist remarks going on, if the legal complaint Lisa Jackson filed is true:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/148781831/Jackson-v-Deen-Et-Al-Complaint

It's about time someone posted the entire deposition on this site. Too many on here want to neophyte on social issues with "oh but she only used the word once a long time ago...". I had read whole thing last weekend. Anyone whom defends somebody that has been accused of this type of BS is someone whom is OK with being complicit and giving tacit consent to bigotry...plain and simple

Why didn't the health department close the restaurant? If these allegations were true? I am trying to play Nancy Grace here after reading the petition filed with the courts. Are the attorneys fabricating this? I was not there, but I don't rush too hastily to judgement. We had in our state the FBI investigate a lawyer by the name of Marc G. Rosenthal on RICO statues.

Any surveillance tapes pulled by the prosecution?, I would like to see those tapes as a famous TV Judge would say.

I also don't get the remarks aimed at Obama whereas Deen campaigned for Obama, something doesn't make since.

Uh, the documents show what Paula Deen said herself in the deposition, so unless she lied (and that would be perjury and can result criminal charges) it has to upheld as her testimony. Secondly, what does the health department have to do with this? No where in that shows there were actual health code violations, so the health department being association is non-germane. Your comments about surveillance is pointless considering those wouldn't prove a thing in the court of law in this case. Finally, Deen is not her brother so what does have anything to do with anything? Just because Deen herself campaigned for anyone doesn't mean her brother cannot have his own (different) perspective of things.

You are not making any kind of sense. Also don't attempt to "play Nancy Grace" because she never makes any type of sense either.

It depends on the local health codes, also if I were Jackson, why would I continue employment with that entity? It is still hearsay, and as far as the disposition she had some bad lawyer ring on her part. Also if I were Jackson I would have immediately contacted the police and made a report after discovering the numerous violations of law. Most businesses today have surveillance systems installed, and pulling the tapes from the business by subpoena makes sense cameras make the silent witness that is impartial and fair a fundamental right we all have under the Constitution which seems to be sadly ignored these days, and as far as Nancy Grace making sense that is your opinion, but Nancy Grace has trial court experience, do you have trial court experience?

Aren't we per summed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law?

Blah, blah, blah! What does this have to do with the deposition under oath? Nothing at all.

Unless you are going to take into account that Deen said herself in during her entire testimony then your points are null and void. Read the deposition and realized that is actual evidence in this lawsuit that will be determinate of the judge's decision not some random non sequiturs you feel should be taken into consideration like surveillance footage or the health department. These are all non sequiturs and red herrings to the case at hand.

In other words, this is the end of this conversation between me and you, period. I am not going to go back and forth with you over what you think should be considered, so you can talk to yourself from this post onward...
 
kilamanjero said:
willdav713 said:
kilamanjero said:
willdav713 said:
kilamanjero said:
Nate Wesley said:
willdav713 said:
MarcB said:
Smithfield fired her as their spokesman and Sears in considering pulling her products. (As if Sears doesn't have enough problems).

I guess she would have to sell them the Avon route.
I heard she voted for Obama, and cooked up some of her dishes for the first lady that were not on her healthy choices for American's plan. People who are in that same party who seems to think that something someone said 20 plus years ago matters.

A lot of folks out there riding with just that one bank robbery anecdote, asking 'What's the big deal'? All while ignoring that it's part of a deposition in a much, much, much more detailed discrimination lawsuit. Read the PDF rnigma posted, and realize what you're defending if a mere quarter of this complaint is accurate:
rnigma said:
There were a lot more than just racist remarks going on, if the legal complaint Lisa Jackson filed is true:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/148781831/Jackson-v-Deen-Et-Al-Complaint

It's about time someone posted the entire deposition on this site. Too many on here want to neophyte on social issues with "oh but she only used the word once a long time ago...". I had read whole thing last weekend. Anyone whom defends somebody that has been accused of this type of BS is someone whom is OK with being complicit and giving tacit consent to bigotry...plain and simple

Why didn't the health department close the restaurant? If these allegations were true? I am trying to play Nancy Grace here after reading the petition filed with the courts. Are the attorneys fabricating this? I was not there, but I don't rush too hastily to judgement. We had in our state the FBI investigate a lawyer by the name of Marc G. Rosenthal on RICO statues.

Any surveillance tapes pulled by the prosecution?, I would like to see those tapes as a famous TV Judge would say.

I also don't get the remarks aimed at Obama whereas Deen campaigned for Obama, something doesn't make since.

Uh, the documents show what Paula Deen said herself in the deposition, so unless she lied (and that would be perjury and can result criminal charges) it has to upheld as her testimony. Secondly, what does the health department have to do with this? No where in that shows there were actual health code violations, so the health department being association is non-germane. Your comments about surveillance is pointless considering those wouldn't prove a thing in the court of law in this case. Finally, Deen is not her brother so what does have anything to do with anything? Just because Deen herself campaigned for anyone doesn't mean her brother cannot have his own (different) perspective of things.

You are not making any kind of sense. Also don't attempt to "play Nancy Grace" because she never makes any type of sense either.

It depends on the local health codes, also if I were Jackson, why would I continue employment with that entity? It is still hearsay, and as far as the disposition she had some bad lawyer ring on her part. Also if I were Jackson I would have immediately contacted the police and made a report after discovering the numerous violations of law. Most businesses today have surveillance systems installed, and pulling the tapes from the business by subpoena makes sense cameras make the silent witness that is impartial and fair a fundamental right we all have under the Constitution which seems to be sadly ignored these days, and as far as Nancy Grace making sense that is your opinion, but Nancy Grace has trial court experience, do you have trial court experience?

Aren't we per summed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law?

Blah, blah, blah! What does this have to do with the deposition under oath? Nothing at all.

Unless you are going to take into account that Deen said herself in during her entire testimony then your points are null and void. Read the deposition and realized that is actual evidence in this lawsuit that will be determinate of the judge's decision not some random non sequiturs you feel should be taken into consideration like surveillance footage or the health department. These are all non sequiturs and red herrings to the case at hand.

In other words, this is the end of this conversation between me and you, period. I am not going to go back and forth with you over what you think should be considered, so you can talk to yourself from this post onward...

You still didn't answer my questions, and now you are coping out. I am glad you are not on a jury if I were accused of something I would make sure my lawyer would strike you for not being fair and impartial. Sounds like I am arguing with a person with a mentality of a 6 year old.
 
willdav713 said:
You still didn't answer my questions, and now you are coping out. I am glad you are not on a jury if I were accused of something I would make sure my lawyer would strike you for not being fair and impartial. Sounds like I am arguing with a person with a mentality of a 6 year old.

First of all , I owe you nothing. Your statements have nothing to do with this topic of this thread. Secondly, I am not Lisa Jackson nor her lawyer, so why don't you ask her lawyer? Finally, I could say the same about your inability to comprehend or express yourself in a coherent or germane manner involving a nominal discussion. I feel like I'm reading the ramblings of neophyte that doesn't know what they are talking about at all but feels like "somebody is out to get [person X]".

The link to deposition is posted for you to read, so read the thing...
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Willdav713. I will not further engage any form of exchange or debate with the willfully ignorant or an obtuse mindset. Good night...
 
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