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Format Change Audio: WEEI-FM (WMKK) debut
- Thread starter raccoonradio
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Noticed in Salem today, one town from their antenna's city, and no stereo light. Yup...Does it give them an advantage in that mono can be a bit clearer in fringe areas (less drift)? Some talk
stations on FM do this (like the longtime Kent/Akron OH's WNIR 100.1, I think they run mono;
I think WBUR would turn off the stereo operation for talk shows...)
Talk to Entercom about the webstreaming issue.
stations on FM do this (like the longtime Kent/Akron OH's WNIR 100.1, I think they run mono;
I think WBUR would turn off the stereo operation for talk shows...)
Talk to Entercom about the webstreaming issue.
Despite these problems, They're on FM which is great
The downside, is when listenning by walkman, most walkmans (NEW and OLD-Phone, MP3...) when listenning inside Boston, 93.7 is one of a few that can not be heard inside Boston, Brookline, Copley Sq area, Kenmore area, Comm Ave area, parts of Southend, Roxbury, Dorchester, and South Boston. Same with 98.5 in all those areas. Luckly WEEI also has 850AM which you can get well in most of those areas as well as outside the city.
All in all, we should be thankful that WEEI is on FM
The downside, is when listenning by walkman, most walkmans (NEW and OLD-Phone, MP3...) when listenning inside Boston, 93.7 is one of a few that can not be heard inside Boston, Brookline, Copley Sq area, Kenmore area, Comm Ave area, parts of Southend, Roxbury, Dorchester, and South Boston. Same with 98.5 in all those areas. Luckly WEEI also has 850AM which you can get well in most of those areas as well as outside the city.
All in all, we should be thankful that WEEI is on FM
Approx signal range of 93.7:
http://radio-locator.com/pats/WEEI_FM_LU.gif
93.7 and 98.5 are about 16 miles and 8 miles, respectively, from Beacon Hill. I would think most Walkmen
could pick up either station in diff. parts of Boston. A google map search shows that in Kenmore Sq,
you're about 8 miles or so from the 98.5 stick in Newton. You're saying a Walkman 8 miles from
98.5's stick can't pick it up? I would think most would.
Most people listen in cars (which I know from experience should pick up 93.7 or 98.5 fine), some at home,
some at work. I listen to 98.5 and 93.7 in N. Reading at work, one town away from the 93.7 stick admittedly, and both stations came in. If I were to, say, be transferred to the South Postal Annex
in Boston I'd suspect I could pick up both, also. On, say, an AM-FM Sony Walkman, or on the FM
part of a Sony Walkman mp3 player. Yes, they do have the 850 to help out (something which, for the
record, I can't pick up on the latter as it lacks AM...)
Anyone attending a C's or Sox game at TD Garden or Fenway and wants to hear it on the radio at the same time can probably pick up 93.7 on a Walkman. But as Dennis Miller says, "That's just my opinion--
hey, I could be wrong." Wondering if anyone else in the Boston area has problems picking up 93.7
or 98.5 in those areas.
If so, I'd hate to be someone in those neighborhoods out for a walk and wanting to hear the Pats
on 98.5 or the Sox on 93.7 (and again, some radios have FM only...)
http://radio-locator.com/pats/WEEI_FM_LU.gif
93.7 and 98.5 are about 16 miles and 8 miles, respectively, from Beacon Hill. I would think most Walkmen
could pick up either station in diff. parts of Boston. A google map search shows that in Kenmore Sq,
you're about 8 miles or so from the 98.5 stick in Newton. You're saying a Walkman 8 miles from
98.5's stick can't pick it up? I would think most would.
Most people listen in cars (which I know from experience should pick up 93.7 or 98.5 fine), some at home,
some at work. I listen to 98.5 and 93.7 in N. Reading at work, one town away from the 93.7 stick admittedly, and both stations came in. If I were to, say, be transferred to the South Postal Annex
in Boston I'd suspect I could pick up both, also. On, say, an AM-FM Sony Walkman, or on the FM
part of a Sony Walkman mp3 player. Yes, they do have the 850 to help out (something which, for the
record, I can't pick up on the latter as it lacks AM...)
Anyone attending a C's or Sox game at TD Garden or Fenway and wants to hear it on the radio at the same time can probably pick up 93.7 on a Walkman. But as Dennis Miller says, "That's just my opinion--
hey, I could be wrong." Wondering if anyone else in the Boston area has problems picking up 93.7
or 98.5 in those areas.
If so, I'd hate to be someone in those neighborhoods out for a walk and wanting to hear the Pats
on 98.5 or the Sox on 93.7 (and again, some radios have FM only...)
mgpt6 said:
Stereo and processing have nothing to do with each other.
Since the primary program material on the WEEI stations is mono, and since stereo increases multipath distortion and decreases fringe coverage, turning off the stereo is a wise move. And before we hear from the "but the commercials/liners/Red Sox/bits are/would be/were cool in stereo" crowd, there's not a shred of evidence that stereo makes any difference at all in spoken-word formats...except perhaps to message-board denizens...
>>since stereo increases multipath distortion and decreases fringe coverage, turning off the stereo is a wise move...not a shred of evidence that stereo makes any difference at all in spoken-word formats
Would have to agree on that...
btw sometimes my show is recorded by a friend of mine not far from Salem State on his CD recorder and
he puts it in mono...and I do the same here in Beverly, recvr set to mono...and yet the show sounds pretty good even in mono.
We're talking a music show here!
Would have to agree on that...
btw sometimes my show is recorded by a friend of mine not far from Salem State on his CD recorder and
he puts it in mono...and I do the same here in Beverly, recvr set to mono...and yet the show sounds pretty good even in mono.
We're talking a music show here!
I'm telling you!!! Both 93.7 and 98.5 CAN NOT be heard on ANY walkman inside Boston
Someday I'll have to take a Walkman or two and try it...you could be right. Anyone out there going to a C's game and you try your Walkman on 93.7 while in the Garden, let me know if it comes in. (Is the DX-Local switch set to Local?) Who knows, maybe the buildings are an obstacle...
but if the WBZ-FM signal (the other one you mention) can't be picked up by a Walkman in Kenmore Sq.--8 miles from the 98.5 transmitter--then CBS (and Entercom, with WEEI-FM for that matter) has a real problem on their hands. And even if people did have trouble getting it on a Walkman, a lot more
people driving in and around Boston should have NO trouble getting either station on the car
radio.
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Using radio-locator.com click on the "info" page to get where the transmitter for WBZ-FM is
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=42.30750,+-71.22417+(WBZ-FM)&om=1
Now enter in "4 Yawkey Way Boston" (Fenway Park address) and assume you are walking by
Fenway park and have your Walkman on
>>Suggested routes
7.9 mi, 20 mins
Boylston St
A Walkman can't pick up a powerful signal from 8 miles away...?
but if the WBZ-FM signal (the other one you mention) can't be picked up by a Walkman in Kenmore Sq.--8 miles from the 98.5 transmitter--then CBS (and Entercom, with WEEI-FM for that matter) has a real problem on their hands. And even if people did have trouble getting it on a Walkman, a lot more
people driving in and around Boston should have NO trouble getting either station on the car
radio.
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Using radio-locator.com click on the "info" page to get where the transmitter for WBZ-FM is
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=42.30750,+-71.22417+(WBZ-FM)&om=1
Now enter in "4 Yawkey Way Boston" (Fenway Park address) and assume you are walking by
Fenway park and have your Walkman on
>>Suggested routes
7.9 mi, 20 mins
Boylston St
A Walkman can't pick up a powerful signal from 8 miles away...?
on my way back from Ashmont-JFK.
I get these stations only just past Fields Corner area (93.7, 97.7, 98.5, 101.7, and 103.3) I get those stations from Ashmont until just past Fields Corner (Listenning by Walkman, new and old, Phone FM, MP3, any Walkman, new and old, DX, and Local)
As soon as I pass Fields Corner I start losing all those stations, it might come in and out until we come into JFK Train Station. As soon as we pass JFK station going to Andrew Station. I lost all those stations.
Those stations can not be heard in these parts of Boston on any walkman (New and Old, Phone FM, MP3) in these parts of Boston from Park Street-Copley Squarea area, Kenmore Square area, Comm Ave area, anywhere in Brookline weather it be around the Hospitals area to J P, Fenway area to Newton Center area, Chinatown-just outside Dudley Square. Most of those areas, you can not get those stations on any walkman, new and old. (It might be different if you use a Car Audio with a good antanna, or live in those areas or work in those areas?) But when you listen to any of those stations on a walkman, most of inside Boston you can not hear those stations. Also from Harvard Square to Mass General Hospital area.
You might, maybe be able to get some of these stations from Mass General Hospital-Downtown Crossing area and parts of North End areas. Maybe you can get some of those stations in those areas on a walkman? Maybe, maybe not? I got most when I was at Mass General Hospital. So maybe, maybe not?
Once you get outside the city, you can pick up most of those stations by walkman.
Both outside and inside the city, most AM stations comes in, but staticky when you're on the bus and train. But it can still be heard (590am, 680am, 850am, 1030am is the BEST signal, 1200am, 1260am, and 1430am is iffy but still listenable, as well 1510am)
Try it everyone and let us know (your) experiences
I get these stations only just past Fields Corner area (93.7, 97.7, 98.5, 101.7, and 103.3) I get those stations from Ashmont until just past Fields Corner (Listenning by Walkman, new and old, Phone FM, MP3, any Walkman, new and old, DX, and Local)
As soon as I pass Fields Corner I start losing all those stations, it might come in and out until we come into JFK Train Station. As soon as we pass JFK station going to Andrew Station. I lost all those stations.
Those stations can not be heard in these parts of Boston on any walkman (New and Old, Phone FM, MP3) in these parts of Boston from Park Street-Copley Squarea area, Kenmore Square area, Comm Ave area, anywhere in Brookline weather it be around the Hospitals area to J P, Fenway area to Newton Center area, Chinatown-just outside Dudley Square. Most of those areas, you can not get those stations on any walkman, new and old. (It might be different if you use a Car Audio with a good antanna, or live in those areas or work in those areas?) But when you listen to any of those stations on a walkman, most of inside Boston you can not hear those stations. Also from Harvard Square to Mass General Hospital area.
You might, maybe be able to get some of these stations from Mass General Hospital-Downtown Crossing area and parts of North End areas. Maybe you can get some of those stations in those areas on a walkman? Maybe, maybe not? I got most when I was at Mass General Hospital. So maybe, maybe not?
Once you get outside the city, you can pick up most of those stations by walkman.
Both outside and inside the city, most AM stations comes in, but staticky when you're on the bus and train. But it can still be heard (590am, 680am, 850am, 1030am is the BEST signal, 1200am, 1260am, and 1430am is iffy but still listenable, as well 1510am)
Try it everyone and let us know (your) experiences
Some still use Walkmen...mp3 players/Ipods usually don't have AM, thus a good reason for WEEI being
on 93.7; as for phones I know you can get WEEI and prob. WBZ-FM on a smartphone with an app
(me, I have a dumbphone, mostly for making and receiving calls).
I was thinking more about walking around Boston not nec. being on a train, but I'd guess you'd have trouble getting good recep underground, maybe a bit better luck above ground (like Wonderland and the
next few Blue Line stations from there, inbound)
On buses I'm not sure but AM is prob a really tough get due to motor interference, and a friend of mine
who travels a lot and takes buses does say FM can be tough, too.
on 93.7; as for phones I know you can get WEEI and prob. WBZ-FM on a smartphone with an app
(me, I have a dumbphone, mostly for making and receiving calls).
I was thinking more about walking around Boston not nec. being on a train, but I'd guess you'd have trouble getting good recep underground, maybe a bit better luck above ground (like Wonderland and the
next few Blue Line stations from there, inbound)
On buses I'm not sure but AM is prob a really tough get due to motor interference, and a friend of mine
who travels a lot and takes buses does say FM can be tough, too.
In many cases stations that begin an FM simulcast start to treat it like the FM is the main station and
oh yeah, we're on (interference prone, turn down at sunset) AM too. WMAN in Mansfield OH; new logo.
FM 100.1 (and 98.3), and oh yeah, that AM 1400 with all of 920 watts.
http://www.am1400.com/template/masthead/wman-v2nored.jpg
You'll note WEEI hosts will say "You're next on 93.7" The phone number still has 850 as part of it
I think, and the text number (850850)
Some exceptions might be when the AM is pretty powerful but adds an FM that reaches a small
area. Note here with WPRO, where the "63" is part of the domain name and the AM freq is a lot
bigger than the FM. Again, the AM is considerably more far-reaching, here.
http://www.630wpro.com/
oh yeah, we're on (interference prone, turn down at sunset) AM too. WMAN in Mansfield OH; new logo.
FM 100.1 (and 98.3), and oh yeah, that AM 1400 with all of 920 watts.
http://www.am1400.com/template/masthead/wman-v2nored.jpg
You'll note WEEI hosts will say "You're next on 93.7" The phone number still has 850 as part of it
I think, and the text number (850850)
Some exceptions might be when the AM is pretty powerful but adds an FM that reaches a small
area. Note here with WPRO, where the "63" is part of the domain name and the AM freq is a lot
bigger than the FM. Again, the AM is considerably more far-reaching, here.
http://www.630wpro.com/
...though the signal range of the 99.7 (WEAN) actually isn't as restricted as you may think
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WEAN&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
If so I'm kind of surprised they don't have 99.7 "bigger" on their site. 630 is a pretty powerful AM
though; it can come in even up in NH, western MA etc.
The 94.9 that simulcasts WTAG 580 is also slightly more powerful than I thought, and the webpage
for the station gives equal footing to 580 and 94.9
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=W235AV&service=FX&status=L&hours=U
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WEAN&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
If so I'm kind of surprised they don't have 99.7 "bigger" on their site. 630 is a pretty powerful AM
though; it can come in even up in NH, western MA etc.
The 94.9 that simulcasts WTAG 580 is also slightly more powerful than I thought, and the webpage
for the station gives equal footing to 580 and 94.9
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=W235AV&service=FX&status=L&hours=U
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