Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2

[radiolives]

Didn't know FOX has 49% stake in the YES Network. What happened to the Yankees wanting the majority of their own network? Wasn't the reason to start YES was to get away from FSN NY.


Also regarding FOX Sports. Are they planning on making cable compaines move the channel to regular cable? As many moved Speed to digital. For FOX to compete the channel is going to have on regular cable. As thats hurting CBS Sports Network because their on digital sports pack.

 

[Poledo]

I am looking foreword to Fox Sports 1. Live UFC fights every Wednesday night! I assume Fuel TVs boxing will also move over to Fox Sports net. No more dealing with fights in SD on Fuel!
I wonder if Fox Sports will go after Wealth TV's bizzare International Boxing Live events for more filler programming? I assume Fox's UFC contract will prevent them from picking up Kickboxing unless the UFC goes out and buys K-1. Thanks to good ol' Mark Cuban's AXS.TV and Glory's new contract with CBS I doubt Kickboxing will dissappear from TV anytime soon.

 

[ShawnHill1]

Didn't know FOX has 49% stake in the YES Network. What happened to the Yankees wanting the majority of their own network? Wasn't the reason to start YES was to get away from FSN NY.


Also regarding FOX Sports. Are they planning on making cable compaines move the channel to regular cable? As many moved Speed to digital. For FOX to compete the channel is going to have on regular cable. As thats hurting CBS Sports Network because their on digital sports pack.

I certainly believe that Fox is going push for better carriage (i.e. being in the same programming tiers as ESPN, the league-owned networks, etc.). NBC pushed for it in regards to its Sports Network, with it being relocated from channel 603 on DirecTV to channel 220, placing it alonside the ESPNs (ESPN Classic flip-flopped channel slots with ESPNU a couple years ago), the league networks, Tennis Channel, and Golf Channel.

Besides Fox buying 49 percent of YES, they just also purchased the Cleveland Indians' SportsTime Ohio network around the same time. Ironically, Indians owner Larry Dolan is the brother of Cablevision founder Charles Dolan, whose company once owned the Tribe's previous cable home, Fox Sports Ohio, and now the two are sister networks.

 

[Poledo]

What's keeping Fox from buying the rest of the Sunshine network? I believe Cablevision owns roughly half of Sunshine.

 

[KTN Corp]

Naming anything "#2" is very poor marketing IMO.

Oh, really? Tell that to HBO, Showtime, MTV and C-SPAN (in addition to ESPN). Seems it's mostly worked out OK for them.

And C-SPAN even has a C-SPAN 3. They've got ALL the news channels beaten. Not bad for a shoestring budget operation.....

I believe C-SPAN 3 came about when it was imminent that the U.S. Supreme Court would allow video broadcasts too. It has not happened yet, but can anybody see a C-SPAN 4 in the works? A (separate) channel (from C-SPAN 3) to cover the Executive Branch.

Meanwhile other developed countries only have one legislative channel: CPAC in Canada, BBC Parliament in the UK, APAC in Australia, and Parliament TV in New Zealand being the examples in the Anglosphere. I guess we got 3 channels since the U.S. is a "big government."

 

[mwd711]

What's keeping Fox from buying the rest of the Sunshine network? I believe Cablevision owns roughly half of Sunshine.

You're behind the times. Fox took over full ownership of FS Florida and Sun Sports back in 2005. It was part of an asset swap that gave Cablevision full ownership of MSG and Fox full ownership of the Florida and Ohio RSN's.

 

[JeeperOne]

Naming anything "#2" is very poor marketing IMO.

Oh, really? Tell that to HBO, Showtime, MTV and C-SPAN (in addition to ESPN). Seems it's mostly worked out OK for them.

And C-SPAN even has a C-SPAN 3. They've got ALL the news channels beaten. Not bad for a shoestring budget operation.....

I believe C-SPAN 3 came about when it was imminent that the U.S. Supreme Court would allow video broadcasts too. It has not happened yet, but can anybody see a C-SPAN 4 in the works? A (separate) channel (from C-SPAN 3) to cover the Executive Branch.

Meanwhile other developed countries only have one legislative channel: CPAC in Canada, BBC Parliament in the UK, APAC in Australia, and Parliament TV in New Zealand being the examples in the Anglosphere. I guess we got 3 channels since the U.S. is a "big government."

Doubt it. There's still plenty of time to fill on C-SPAN 3

Plus they can put some of that stuff on their website similar to how ESPN uses ESPN 3 for live International sports events

Cheers & 73 ;D

 

[raccoonradio]

Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mo...a-circus-fox-sports-1/?sct=hp_wr_a1&eref=sihp

>>The 24/7 cable sports network aims to be a viable competitor for ESPN...Fox Sports 1 will officially launch on Saturday, Aug. 17, in about 90 million homes, making it the biggest sports cable network launch in history...Beginning in 2014, Fox Sports 1 will air at least one League Championship Series game and select Division Series games from Major League Baseball. The network will carry regular-season games over 26 Saturdays, and the Fox broadcast network will go from its 26-week schedule to 12 regular-season games.

 

[FreddyE1977]

Re: Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

The network will carry regular-season games over 26 Saturdays, and the Fox broadcast network will go from its 26-week
schedule to 12 regular-season games.

1) I am amazed that Major League Baseball would be okay with that, since it will take quite awhile for enough
cable systems to clear Fox Sports 1 to come anywhere remotely close to the penetration of Fox broadcast TV.

2) If they were planning to do this, why on earth would Fox broadcast network kill off their entire Saturday
Prime Time lineup?

 

[Morgan Wick]

Re: Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

The network will carry regular-season games over 26 Saturdays, and the Fox broadcast network will go from its 26-week
schedule to 12 regular-season games.

1) I am amazed that Major League Baseball would be okay with that, since it will take quite awhile for enough
cable systems to clear Fox Sports 1 to come anywhere remotely close to the penetration of Fox broadcast TV.

Did you miss the "90 million homes" part? If you didn't, why on Earth would this be surprising in an age where the BCS Championship Game, the most-watched non-NFL/Olympic sporting event of the year, is on cable?

2) If they were planning to do this, why on earth would Fox broadcast network kill off their entire Saturday
Prime Time lineup?

What Saturday prime-time lineup? You mean that super-low-budget lower-syndication-quality COPS show?

 

[wprt949]

Re: Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

I wonder if they would put some extra football games on this channel on Sundays during the football season

 

[ShawnHill1]

Re: Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

I wonder if they would put some extra football games on this channel on Sundays during the football season

Not happening, unfortunately...I think the affiliates would raise holy hell if that were to happen, plus you have DirecTV and its Sunday Ticket package. I did see somewhere that Fox may bid on the current Thursday Night package that NFL Network currently has in the near-future.

Fox Sports is launching an app to feature live programming (including games from its regional networks) just before the NFL season starts.

 

[justthenumbers]

Re: Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

Did you miss the "90 million homes" part? If you didn't, why on Earth would this be surprising in an age where the BCS Championship Game, the most-watched non-NFL/Olympic sporting event of the year, is on cable?

Amen. Penetration is not linked to viewing. Besides the BCS example, look at The Walking Dead on lower-penetrated AMC beating everything on higher-penetrated broadcast a few weeks back.

 

[mgsports]

Re: Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

They haven't hired anybody yet for the 11pm show but have Chris Myers,can borrow Brian Kenny from MLB Network and others on Staff to host it.

 

[arnoldevns]

Re: Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

Fox has put a lot more research and thought into this than most would realize. It will do well for Fox and certainly get a lot more viewers than Speed does now.

Fox Sports 2 and FX2 will be more risky propositions, but will still almost certainly get more viewers than the current programming.

 

[wickedwritah]

Re: Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

2) If they were planning to do this, why on earth would Fox broadcast network kill off their entire Saturday
Prime Time lineup?

It wasn't until the past few years Fox aired games every Saturday. Saturday games used to be sporadic until after the all-star break. That's pretty much what's happening here.

 

[DToTheJ]

Re: Fox Sports 1 takes on ESPN

...It will do well for Fox and certainly get a lot more viewers than Speed does now...

Not to mention warrant a heckuva lot more than the 22 cents per subscriber that it currently commands...

 

[mnradiofan]

The problem I see, at least from the beginning, is that in most Comcast markets, SPEED is currently part of the Sports and Entertainment Pack, which is an extra charge.

Yes, penetration doesn't mean a ton, but it does count for something. AMC has more distribution than Speed, and AMC has original programming that you can't see anywhere else. If you want to compete with ESPN, you need ESPN penetration, on channel numbers that actually MATTER, not buried in the 800-900 range. If I already get ESPN as part of my basic package, why would I pay extra for Fox Sports 1?

This same problem will follow Fox Sports 2, and FX 2, although I think Comcast does provide Fox Soccer to their Digital Preferred customers. Fox will need to get aggressive with getting these channels moved BEFORE August, or many will miss the launch. I know they will get aggressive AFTER launch, most likely forcing cable companies to carry Fox Sports 1 in a basic package or lose FX.

 

[wickedwritah]

I don't even get Speed in HD (I live in a Comcast area).

 

[Poledo]

Why do you assume Fox isn't working on getting Fox Sports 1 & 2 placed in the same packages as ESPN and the regional sports networks?

Fox seems to be going whole hog on this new sports venture, unlike CBS Sports and NBC Sports, so I would expect most folks will have access to at least Fox Sports 1 by the time it launches.