I'd listen if someone brings back Glenn Beck. 
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Hisair.net is reporting the change will indeed happen:
http://www.hisair.net/news1.htm
Look for "Shocker: Word is Cumulus has decided to pull the plug on it's successful WISG/Indianapolis!"
http://www.hisair.net/news1.htm
Look for "Shocker: Word is Cumulus has decided to pull the plug on it's successful WISG/Indianapolis!"
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Kelso66
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xmusicmatt said:
Reading the projected talk line up, it begs the question of what will happen to WXNT? It is my understanding that they had Hannity, Ingram, AND Savage. Is another format flip not far behind???
Kelso66 said:
It is your 'understanding?' Didn't you used to work there?
And what's this about 'another' format flip? XNT has been a talk station for what, 5-6 years now? Meanwhile 93.9 has gone through 3-4 formats in the last 3-4 years...
With Mancow and Hannity on the same station... I'd expect they'd be out of the talk format before long...
miketurner said:I'd listen if someone brings back Glenn Beck.
You'll probably get your wish, with the FM talker poaching 'XNT's entire 3pm-3am lineup. Why do I have a strange feeling Mike Gallagher or some other Salem bore isn't far behind? And why waste an FM frequency in a market where people are content to listen to talk on AM? Well, maybe not to 1430, but... You might have just as well bought WXNT!
I never knew XNT was so popular, what with Cumulus stealing almost their entire lineup... with all the shows they're taking, plus Mancow and Dave Ramsey, is there even time left in the day for anything local???
And has anyone heard if they're doing local news? What about a network news feed... XNT has Fox, IBC has ABC... that leaves CBS. That's gonna sound good... CBS News into Mancow. Yikes.
This station sounds like it's gonna... kinda... well, suck.
And has anyone heard if they're doing local news? What about a network news feed... XNT has Fox, IBC has ABC... that leaves CBS. That's gonna sound good... CBS News into Mancow. Yikes.
This station sounds like it's gonna... kinda... well, suck.
Didn't the Cloud acquire Dave Ramsey as part of the Susquahanna deal? I seem to remember the Indian owning that syndication contract...but I've been wrong before.
And since when did the Dickey brothers -- Tiny Dickey and Micro Dickey -- ever give a rodent's hindquarters about anything local? They're probably pissed they even have to have non-sales employees at all.
If they could find a way to have 60 minutes of avails every hour and get chimps to push all the buttons, they'd be happier than Dan Quayle at Chuck E. Cheese.
And since when did the Dickey brothers -- Tiny Dickey and Micro Dickey -- ever give a rodent's hindquarters about anything local? They're probably pissed they even have to have non-sales employees at all.
If they could find a way to have 60 minutes of avails every hour and get chimps to push all the buttons, they'd be happier than Dan Quayle at Chuck E. Cheese.
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TalkRadioGeek
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Two questions I ask of the board:
1. Does Mancow fit with the other conservative talk shows? I haven't heard his show, bt it is my understanding that he is a "hot talk" show like Stern, and not really a Hannity type.
2. Can a talk station succeed without a local presence? WIBC has terrible programming, but it's all local, and it does better then XNT, who has less local and a weak signal.
1. Does Mancow fit with the other conservative talk shows? I haven't heard his show, bt it is my understanding that he is a "hot talk" show like Stern, and not really a Hannity type.
2. Can a talk station succeed without a local presence? WIBC has terrible programming, but it's all local, and it does better then XNT, who has less local and a weak signal.
Radio and Records says WISG will go to talk on 12/26: Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Michael
Savage, Jerry Doyle etc
http://www.radioandrecords.com/radi...article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003468308
Savage, Jerry Doyle etc
http://www.radioandrecords.com/radi...article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003468308
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radio2100
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Since Cumulus is messing up a good thing with The Song, how much longer before they mess with FMS?
Mancow appears on Fox News channel on a regular basis now.
WIBC is not all local and their programming is not terrible.
WXNT trys but local news is not their forte. They have trouble even getting weather right. On a forecast a couple of weeks ago they were talking about the sun setting "tonight at 8:15". The new FM talker will probably stick to just that, TALK. Or maybe they'll partner with a tv station if there any left.
WIBC is not all local and their programming is not terrible.
WXNT trys but local news is not their forte. They have trouble even getting weather right. On a forecast a couple of weeks ago they were talking about the sun setting "tonight at 8:15". The new FM talker will probably stick to just that, TALK. Or maybe they'll partner with a tv station if there any left.
During 93.9 Day's as Retro 93.9 they partned with WXIN-59 for Morning News Updates. So they could always go back to 59 or since 93.9's sister station is partnered with WTHR just ask them to tape an additinal report each hour for 93.9
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TalkRadioGeek
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WIBC is boring. And what exactly is Dave the King Wilson's show about? This should tell you EVERYTHING about WIBC:
My grandma moved to Florida, and she was a faithful listener to WIBC. She asked who was on the station, and she recognized everyone but Dave. She asked what his show is about... What's the point of his show. And I seriously had no answer. Not that Hannity is any better, he is a tool. But at least I can describe what Hannity's show is about.
WXNT and this new talk station at least have a brand, and identity, and aren't relying on the old and dying. Seen their ratings lately? Third to Fifth or Sixth in the past year? That number doesn't get better.
I think WIBC takes the biggest hit over time from this new station, because WXNT puts on new shows to replace the ones 93.9 pillages. This gives Indy talk radio fans TWICE the national talk choices, plus truly local talk radio in Abdul. So they no longer listen to WXNT and WIBC, switching back and forth, opting to listen to some snoozefest on WIBC when Hannity covers the same topics as the four previous days. I listen more to WXNT because I prefer national talk. Now I have a third talk choice, and I can switch back and forth between WXNT and this new station. If all else fails, NPR.
And it isn't fair to judge an entire station by one mispeak or mistake. Who hasn't accidently misread copy while on-air? So to say that WXNT isn't good at local news because of a misread is just amatuer. Look at Abdul? Is there anyone in Indy like Abdul? You could say Jim Shella, but he get 60 minutes a week. You can say Matt Tully, but he has a word limit. Amos? Close, but more opinions then information. Garrison? Rush Jr, and occasionally throws Bosma a bone. WXNT management is crazy for not promoting Abdul more then they do.
If this FM station does well... Would Rush's people leave WIBC for a better signal on the FM? Or does signal clarity matter much i these decisions?
My grandma moved to Florida, and she was a faithful listener to WIBC. She asked who was on the station, and she recognized everyone but Dave. She asked what his show is about... What's the point of his show. And I seriously had no answer. Not that Hannity is any better, he is a tool. But at least I can describe what Hannity's show is about.
WXNT and this new talk station at least have a brand, and identity, and aren't relying on the old and dying. Seen their ratings lately? Third to Fifth or Sixth in the past year? That number doesn't get better.
I think WIBC takes the biggest hit over time from this new station, because WXNT puts on new shows to replace the ones 93.9 pillages. This gives Indy talk radio fans TWICE the national talk choices, plus truly local talk radio in Abdul. So they no longer listen to WXNT and WIBC, switching back and forth, opting to listen to some snoozefest on WIBC when Hannity covers the same topics as the four previous days. I listen more to WXNT because I prefer national talk. Now I have a third talk choice, and I can switch back and forth between WXNT and this new station. If all else fails, NPR.
And it isn't fair to judge an entire station by one mispeak or mistake. Who hasn't accidently misread copy while on-air? So to say that WXNT isn't good at local news because of a misread is just amatuer. Look at Abdul? Is there anyone in Indy like Abdul? You could say Jim Shella, but he get 60 minutes a week. You can say Matt Tully, but he has a word limit. Amos? Close, but more opinions then information. Garrison? Rush Jr, and occasionally throws Bosma a bone. WXNT management is crazy for not promoting Abdul more then they do.
If this FM station does well... Would Rush's people leave WIBC for a better signal on the FM? Or does signal clarity matter much i these decisions?
I would have to assume that Rush's people would be familiar enough with Cumulus' track record with talk stations to know better than to hitch their horse to that wagon.
Rush is very loyal to the stations that have been good to him. WIBC has Marconi awards sitting on it's shelf. I don't think Rush would leave IBC for any reason.
Rush is very loyal to the stations that have been good to him. WIBC has Marconi awards sitting on it's shelf. I don't think Rush would leave IBC for any reason.
What are the odds??
Well, I bet WWL/NoLa, KSTP/Twin Cities, KDKA/Pittsburgh et al (all the way back to KCEO/San Diego) would say Rush, or actually, Jacor and now Premiere, is good to all of their affiliates. But this notion that FM talk will always do even remotely as well as the AM talk leader. Besides, isn't WIBC in HD?
As to Hannity, I and many radio folks agree, but just as Rush's audience gets even more and more loyal year after year in many markets, the same can happen with Hannity. Rush's act got stale before the millennium turned, but he's still on top. Listeners don't think like PDs.
I do think WXNT will suffer though, what little room there is to suffer. They're only left with Boortz, who might do alright by 1430's standards but usually doesn't do much outside of the south/southeast; and O'Reilly, who's a name but not much of a listen, and the numbers in most markets show it. Three of the top 5 shows in the country are being poached. Honestly, it's probably better for Entercom that WXNT is such a loser... if it had any ratings to speak of, it would probably make sense to blow the thing up and flip to polka or something. But since they only have three listeners, they can bring in lower visibility talk shows and not lose much.
So, what are the odds WXNT becomes "Indianapolis' Left Channel" using ETM's standard progressive talk formula? Obviously very unlikely, but at least they could get some publicity and have two or three A-list talents rather than a bunch of half-baked righties.
Well, I bet WWL/NoLa, KSTP/Twin Cities, KDKA/Pittsburgh et al (all the way back to KCEO/San Diego) would say Rush, or actually, Jacor and now Premiere, is good to all of their affiliates. But this notion that FM talk will always do even remotely as well as the AM talk leader. Besides, isn't WIBC in HD?
As to Hannity, I and many radio folks agree, but just as Rush's audience gets even more and more loyal year after year in many markets, the same can happen with Hannity. Rush's act got stale before the millennium turned, but he's still on top. Listeners don't think like PDs.
I do think WXNT will suffer though, what little room there is to suffer. They're only left with Boortz, who might do alright by 1430's standards but usually doesn't do much outside of the south/southeast; and O'Reilly, who's a name but not much of a listen, and the numbers in most markets show it. Three of the top 5 shows in the country are being poached. Honestly, it's probably better for Entercom that WXNT is such a loser... if it had any ratings to speak of, it would probably make sense to blow the thing up and flip to polka or something. But since they only have three listeners, they can bring in lower visibility talk shows and not lose much.
So, what are the odds WXNT becomes "Indianapolis' Left Channel" using ETM's standard progressive talk formula? Obviously very unlikely, but at least they could get some publicity and have two or three A-list talents rather than a bunch of half-baked righties.
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TalkRadioGeek
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If Air America doesn't do well in Chicago and New York, how could it possibly work in Indy?
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is whom WXNT will fill the space with? Any ideas or rumors?
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is whom WXNT will fill the space with? Any ideas or rumors?
"Maybe WXNT could call ESPN and become their afflilate since the current affiliate is off the air."
I really like that idea. Plus I can get in WXNT here in Westfield. ESPN 950 seems to fade north of 71st St. at night.
I really like that idea. Plus I can get in WXNT here in Westfield. ESPN 950 seems to fade north of 71st St. at night.
Correction: Don't know what I was thinking about Rush being poached from WWL. There are still a number of recent examples, that's just not one of them.
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