Is HD REALLY worth it?

[paul vincent zecchino]

Know what I love about HD Cheerleaders? More than these dead-giveaway BigKorpseorate shills claimimg they're just radio buffs? Even more than their burping up HD fairytales while hiding behind false names? The fact they can't tell the truth. It's not that they lie. It's that despite best efforts, HD cheerleaders sometimes slip up and tell a half truth. That's as good as they get.


No HD interference on Manasota Key? Do tell? Is that whooshing sound the Gulf? The whoosh that wiped WIOD 610 away, courtesy of some Tampa 'Sports Mongo' on 620? Wow! Now we can hear morons bark at jocks in 'seedy quality' audio! Kool!

Do you mean barely audible Tampa 1250, 90 miles distant, that airs shows about the War on Flatulence, isn't BLOCking WINK 1240, a scant thirty five miles away? No? Then what is?

Sure sounds like HD jamming.

Do you mean 820 WMGG doesn't wipe 795 to 845 with HD blasting, the same HD noise that degrades their analog signal? That's right, WMGG befouls itself with its own hissing. How fitting - hoisted upon one's petard.

Consider 770, another tedious sports-junkie outlet that blasts 755 thru 785 with HD noise and BLOCs formerly well heard Tampa 760. You mean that's not HD, The Great Blight Dope, blasting digital flatulence all over the spectrum, courtesy of a complicit FCC?

What aboujt those colonic eruptions from 958 to 1000? Isn't that HD Tag Team WFLA 970 & 990 R. Disney, Orlando? A broadcast engineer was not at all amused to discover, just a short distance from Tampa, 970 WFLA is drowned by 990 Orlando.

"HD Radio id the most thoroughly tested system". Ho hum. More 90s bullshale. So, uh, where's the test data? Why won't iNiquity release it? They afraid of the truth?

No interference, eh? Look, those of us in reality realize greed and serial lying rendered TeamBLOC stupid. But that's no reason for them to presume us to be avaricious imbeciles.

To say that FrankenBLOC cheerleaders stretch the truth would be unkind and inaccurate. After all, how can they stretch what they cannot speak?

Why must HD cheerleaders always prove their point? Do they seem compelled to get in our faces with shuffled statistics, namecalling, smarmy non-sequiturs, and other hallmarks of mid-level grifters? While legit salesmen sell fine products like iPods, the HD Bundies, bereft of business, while away pointless weeks 'proving their point'.

Pity them. They're doomed to proving their point because the public realized HD is a stinking lie.

It's all they have left.

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchino
Mansota Key, Florida
19 March, 2007

 

[IBOCRocks]

Know what I love about HD Cheerleaders? More than these dead-giveaway BigKorpseorate shills claimimg they're just radio buffs? Even more than their burping up HD fairytales while hiding behind false names? The fact they can't tell the truth. It's not that they lie. It's that despite best efforts, HD cheerleaders sometimes slip up and tell a half truth. That's as good as they get.


No HD interference on Manasota Key? Do tell? Is that whooshing sound the Gulf? The whoosh that wiped WIOD 610 away, courtesy of some Tampa 'Sports Mongo' on 620? Wow! Now we can hear morons bark at jocks in 'seedy quality' audio! Kool!

Do you mean barely audible Tampa 1250, 90 miles distant, that airs shows about the War on Flatulence, isn't BLOCking WINK 1240, a scant thirty five miles away? No? Then what is?

Sure sounds like HD jamming.

Do you mean 820 WMGG doesn't wipe 795 to 845 with HD blasting, the same HD noise that degrades their analog signal? That's right, WMGG befouls itself with its own hissing. How fitting - hoisted upon one's petard.

Consider 770, another tedious sports-junkie outlet that blasts 755 thru 785 with HD noise and BLOCs formerly well heard Tampa 760. You mean that's not HD, The Great Blight Dope, blasting digital flatulence all over the spectrum, courtesy of a complicit FCC?

What aboujt those colonic eruptions from 958 to 1000? Isn't that HD Tag Team WFLA 970 & 990 R. Disney, Orlando? A broadcast engineer was not at all amused to discover, just a short distance from Tampa, 970 WFLA is drowned by 990 Orlando.

"HD Radio id the most thoroughly tested system". Ho hum. More 90s bullshale. So, uh, where's the test data? Why won't iNiquity release it? They afraid of the truth?

No interference, eh? Look, those of us in reality realize greed and serial lying rendered TeamBLOC stupid. But that's no reason for them to presume us to be avaricious imbeciles.

To say that FrankenBLOC cheerleaders stretch the truth would be unkind and inaccurate. After all, how can they stretch what they cannot speak?

Why must HD cheerleaders always prove their point? Do they seem compelled to get in our faces with shuffled statistics, namecalling, smarmy non-sequiturs, and other hallmarks of mid-level grifters? While legit salesmen sell fine products like iPods, the HD Bundies, bereft of business, while away pointless weeks 'proving their point'.

Pity them. They're doomed to proving their point because the public realized HD is a stinking lie.

It's all they have left.

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchino
Mansota Key, Florida
19 March, 2007

Let me pull that from your drivel one more time:

You accuse HD Cheerleaders (your words) of:

"namecalling, smarmy non-sequiturs, and other hallmarks of mid-level grifters?"

Wow. Pot, meet kettle!

It's funny that the more one tries to sound superior, the less he appears to be.

Pity you. Better to say nothing and have people think you're a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

Eduardo said:

Do your math on KLVE in Los Angeles. Cume of 1.2 million, aveage listenership 6-Mid of 85,000 persons, TSL of 36 quarter hours per listener per week. Your math is absurd, in other words.

R. F Burns said:

Any one of the top 15 or so stations in my market is servicing hundreds of thousands of listeners. Can your stream or transmissioons even be received by thoughsands of people simultaniously?

The answer, again, was yes, many streaming stations have thousands of simultaneous listeners, and thousands more are welcome and able to listen.

It seems that even the highest rated, best example you came up with of an analog radio station, is not generally being received by hundreds of thousands of listeners simultaneously.
85,000 persons is far short of the "hundreds of thousands" of simultaneous listeners R. F. Burns was claiming. Even your math can't be that bad, David.

 

[davideduardo]

It seems that even the highest rated, best example you came up with of an analog radio station, is not generally being received by hundreds of thousands of listeners simultaneously.
85,000 persons is far short of the "hundreds of thousands" of simultaneous listeners R. F. Burns was claiming. Even your math can't be that bad, David.

I simply picked one of the stations I work with... in LA, in 6 AM to 7 PM, just one radio market, at any given time on average over 2 million people are listening to local radio stations.

The shoutcast streams, over 10,000 of them now, have an average of less than 200 listeners each. Just the listening in one city, LA, is greater by nearly a factor of 10, than that of all the shoutcast streams world wide! In fact, thousands of the Shoutcast streams are not in the US, and not even in English... so we would have to compare the audience world wide of terrestrial radio, probably on the order of nearly a billion at any time, with a few hundred thousand world wide for Shoutcast. Insignificant is what I call it.

 

[paul vincent zecchino]

"Pot meet kettle"? Catchy! Is that copyrighted or can I laminate it for my wallet?

Trying to sound superior? Who's trying? Why sound inadequate? HD stooge-radios are inferior hybrid mutants doomed to annoy your formerly sympatico public.

I can speak and write as I please. You think me a fool? You think I care? I don't.

I am honored that you consider me worthy of your thoughts. Thank you.

I'm not selling anything. HD Cheerleaders are. But no one's buying FrankenBLOC stooge-radios. When they do, they quickly return them.

I can be as supercilious as I please, but Cheerleader ennui begets customer apathy.

And it pleases me to tell you, Cheerleaders' officious arrogance ill serves their purposes.

Do you believe iNiquity's admission re 'putting half the AM stations off the air and no one would notice' won't come back to bite them come 'our inevitable litigious future'? If that isn't an admission of prior ill intent, please, won't you enlighten us as to what is?

HD Bund's arrogant admissions have by no means passed unnoticed. Can they say, "Here I am, Ma! Top o' the world!" ? Their cocky argumentiveness pleases me.

No, I didn't hit a nerve, I hit a neural trunk, as evidenced by all the overstated protests.

This was a good exchange. I am honored.

Dr. Paul VIncent Zecchino
Manasota Key, Florida
20 March, 2007

 

[EasyPeazy]

The detractors get more desperate---and the claims get more wild.

Gotta love it.

It is funny isn't it? Now they're making up words, words like "Korpseorados." WTF? Drunk speak? I have no clue what he was saying (or trying to say) there!

The even funnier aspect is that they think we're "always on the defensive, whining the victim song while attacking any and all who dare question them."

Who's the victim? Not me for sure!

I really have to wonder what drives people to post crazy crap like that. Seething rage? Extreme bitterness?

My interest is simple. I program HD Radio stations.

People like Chuck I can understand somewhat. The guy holds the license to an LPFM that's basically incompatible with HD Radio.

I also somewhat understand the DXers. They've bought into the hype and think it's screwing up their hobby. I can sympathize with that. I've lost a few hobbies to things that were beyond my control.

My Dad's an avid motorcyclist. Street bikes these days. When I was a kid we did a lot of off-road dirt riding, but all the trails within 100 miles of my hometown are now closed. Environmentalist groups lobbied to have them shut down.

I used to own a successful sideline mobile DJ business. I ran it for a little over 10 years. I got started doing it for a radio station in my hometown when I was still in high school. When that station changed formats and automated, I went across the street to another station and started my own DJ business. I specialized in high school dances and had a lot of fun doing them, which was my primary motivation, not the money, though I did bring in between $20,000 and $40,000 annually with it.

In the late 90s Napster happened. Suddenly pirating a music library to start a mobile DJ business with became cheap and easy and competition grew exponentially. Where I once got $1,500 for an average prom, people were doing them for under $200. Of course that wasn't the worst of it, the real problem was schools hiring the inexperienced Napster cheap-o's. More often than not they did a terrible job and attendance dropped until most schools just stopped having dances altogether. At the ones that remained, as popular dancing styles got progressively nastier and grinding became more popular, I got my butt chewed by administrators and parents more often than not. I finally got sick of it and decided to sell out.

Yup. I know what it's like to lose a hobby to circumstances beyond my control.

Anyway, it's the webcasters I don't understand. What's their interest? The talk out of both sides of their mouth. They all claim HD Radio will be a failure, yet they feel compelled to come here and squawk about it constantly. The HD Radio board here gets far more traffic from webcasters than the webcasting board does. What does that tell ya?

All I see is a lot of bitterness. I just wonder what's at the root of it all. My best guess is jealousy. What else could it be?

 

[davideduardo]

Know what I love about HD Cheerleaders? More than these dead-giveaway BigKorpseorate shills claimimg they're just radio buffs? Even more than their burping up HD fairytales while hiding behind false names? The fact they can't tell the truth. It's not that they lie. It's that despite best efforts, HD cheerleaders sometimes slip up and tell a half truth. That's as good as they get.

Whatever. I thought blarney was uniquely Irish, but it must be shared with the Italians. what a crock.

No HD interference on Manasota Key? Do tell? Is that whooshing sound the Gulf? The whoosh that wiped WIOD 610 away, courtesy of some Tampa 'Sports Mongo' on 620? Wow! Now we can hear morons bark at jocks in 'seedy quality' audio! Kool!

The FCC guarantees absolutely no protection at your distance to WIOD.

Do you mean barely audible Tampa 1250, 90 miles distant, that airs shows about the War on Flatulence, isn't BLOCking WINK 1240, a scant thirty five miles away? No? Then what is?

A class IV is not protected to 35 miles, even where the ground condutivity is vastly better than Florida. WINK has no protection at your location.

Sure sounds like HD jamming.

Jamming is interntional interference to block a usable signal from being heard.

Do you mean 820 WMGG doesn't wipe 795 to 845 with HD blasting, the same HD noise that degrades their analog signal? That's right, WMGG befouls itself with its own hissing. How fitting - hoisted upon one's petard.

No station on 790 to 850 has a protected signal at your location. The fact you could hear them at one time only indicates that the FCC had not allocated anything closer to you. It does not mean the staitons on any of the channels you indicated had any legal expectancy of being heard, nor do you have any right to hear them in today's or yesterday's FCC rules.

An exapmple. KLVE-Los Angeles was top 10 in the late 90's in Santa Barbara. As a grandfathered high power FM (29 kw at 5000 feet AMSL) it coverded Santa Barbara decently. But FCC rules did not protect the grandfathered contour, only the conforming Class B contour... so a new station came on the air in santa Barbara on the adjacent channel, and KLVE can no longer be heard in that entire market area. It was nice while it lasted, but neither our listeners nor our station had any "right" to keeping this extended coverage which was due to no staiton having applied for the adjacent in that area.

Consider 770, another tedious sports-junkie outlet that blasts 755 thru 785 with HD noise and BLOCs formerly well heard Tampa 760. You mean that's not HD, The Great Blight Dope, blasting digital flatulence all over the spectrum, courtesy of a complicit FCC?

You are in the protected contour area of 770, and far, far away from that of 760, which has no expectation of serving the Englewood area or your little island.

"HD Radio id the most thoroughly tested system". Ho hum. More 90s bullshale. So, uh, where's the test data? Why won't iNiquity release it? They afraid of the truth?

It's part of the FCC filing that resulted in the STA to begin HD broadcasting several years ago.

[/quote] No interference, eh? [/quote]

There is no interference to the protected contours of any AM or FM station. While there is additonal radiation in the sidebands, it does not interfere with what is the rightful and licensed expectation of any station. And the real issue is that AM is rapidly dying. Less than 20% of total radio listening, almost all in older age groups that are not marketable to advertisers. Under age 45, less than 10% of listening is to AM. In under-25, it is just a couple of percent.

AM is fading. Anything that may help it is worth the risk, the gamble, the chance. Because just letting the band die is of no benefit to anyone. Saving it, on even a longshot, while only affecting DXers and a few similar nuts, is hardly a sacrifice.

Why must HD cheerleaders always prove their point? Do they seem compelled to get in our faces with shuffled statistics, namecalling, smarmy non-sequiturs, and other hallmarks of mid-level grifters?

Smarmyness seems to be more the tool of trade you are selling. With your oh-so-clever turns of a phrase, you can not mask the fact that you are defending the reception of stations way beyond their service area, way beyond their community of licnese, and way beyond their ability to serve via programming... a tiny usage of radio made by a tiny group of people.

So, as a result, you advocate abandoning one of the chances for survival of AM, just so you can pick up a talk station from 100 miles away. No way.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

Doc said:
"Sure sounds like HD jamming."
Eduardo:
"Jamming is interntional interference to block a usable signal from being heard."

Sure sounds like HD radio's famous supporter, Guy Wire's "thinning the herd full of cripples" remark when confronted by the fact that smaller stations were being jammed by HD radio.

Eduardo again:
"AM is fading. Anything that may help it is worth the risk, the gamble, the chance. Because just letting the band die is of no benefit to anyone."

So killing it sooner, is better?
You are promoting a quick death for AM rather then giving it a little more time.
Cutting AM fidelity in half and adding buzz, noise, and interference that sounds like a sick dial up modem, is supposed to help AM radio?
How?
Virtually no one is buying the necessary new HD radios, and there has been no night time authorization (what a disaster that will be, if it happens)".
Quick HD radio euthanasia for AM is not the answer.

 

[EasyPeazy]

So killing it sooner, is better?
You are promoting a quick death for AM rather then giving it a little more time.
Cutting AM fidelity in half and adding buzz, noise, and interference that sounds like a sick dial up modem, is supposed to help AM radio?
How?
Virtually no one is buying the necessary new HD radios, and there has been no night time authorization (what a disaster that will be, if it happens)".
Quick HD radio euthanasia for AM is not the answer.

Yeah, that's gotta be why stations like WOR are so behind this. They're determined to put themselves outta business.

 

[SUPERCASTER]

So killing it sooner, is better?
You are promoting a quick death for AM rather then giving it a little more time.
Cutting AM fidelity in half and adding buzz, noise, and interference that sounds like a sick dial up modem, is supposed to help AM radio?
How?
Virtually no one is buying the necessary new HD radios, and there has been no night time authorization (what a disaster that will be, if it happens)".
Quick HD radio euthanasia for AM is not the answer.

Yeah, that's gotta be why stations like WOR are so behind this. They're determined to put themselves outta business.

Broadcast station owners have been wrong before, probably more often then right, about new technology, even, occasionally WOR's owners.

 

[davideduardo]

Sure sounds like HD radio's famous supporter, Guy Wire's "thinning the herd full of cripples" remark when confronted by the fact that smaller stations were being jammed by HD radio.

No station is being affected in its protected contours. Every report of interference comes from folks like Paul who can't get a 1 kw Bahamian on the west coast of Florida. In other words, interference to stations that have no legal claim to receivability in the specified location.

Eduardo again:
"AM is fading. Anything that may help it is worth the risk, the gamble, the chance. Because just letting the band die is of no benefit to anyone."

So killing it sooner, is better?

How is creting an option for better qiuality AM in the coverage area that matters degrading AM or killing it?

You are promoting a quick death for AM rather then giving it a little more time.

AM Radio generates 99.9% of its revenues in the groundwave primary coverage area of a station. How is HD in any way going to damage the existing analog signal revenue or listener base when said ssid signal does not change... we just add the option for a musch clearer and cleaner version of same as receivers continue to come out and prices go down.

Cutting AM fidelity in half and adding buzz, noise, and interference that sounds like a sick dial up modem, is supposed to help AM radio?
How?

Bob Orban (I trust you know who he is, or you should not be in this debate) believes that reducing AM bandwidth on analog makes stations sound better, as more than 90% of radios he surveyed are down 10 db at 4.1 kHz. In any case, stations have experimented with 6 and 7 kHz bandwidths successfully, but found that theree is no difference on consumer grade radios.

Virtually no one is buying the necessary new HD radios, and there has been no night time authorization (what a disaster that will be, if it happens)".

Reciever sales are ahead of projections, new high efficiency chipsets are now in prototype stage, and prices are declining. There are about 4 times the number of HD radios sold in the first year (we are actually 9 months after the launch now) than CD players when they came out... at $1400 a pop.

And night HD will not affect the normal, local lsitening of Ams. It may affect skywave a bit, but that is no longer part of the radio business model, and a good deal of this is about preserving the viabiliuty of the AM band... nobody is served if it just wanes and disappears over the next number of years.

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[R.F. Burns]

What strikes me as amazing is that even though I posted a demo which I recorded in my home, located in a very heavilly congested north eastern suburb, there are those who refuse to see reality and still spew their obvious anti HD bias. If HD was so destructive you'd read about it in the local newspapers. Every decent paper has a letters to the editor section and yet with all the vitriol we read here no one, not even in magazines like Monitoring times has been anti IBOC or complained about interference. I just wish those who are anti IBOC were honest enough to explain why they are so anti this technology. It's like dealing with terrorists. At least a fair debate would allow both sides to honestly know who they are dealing with and what if any bagage, their opponent brings to the table.

 

[IBOCRocks]

"Pot meet kettle"? Catchy! Is that copyrighted or can I laminate it for my wallet?

Trying to sound superior? Who's trying? Why sound inadequate? HD stooge-radios are inferior hybrid mutants doomed to annoy your formerly sympatico public.

I can speak and write as I please. You think me a fool? You think I care? I don't.

I am honored that you consider me worthy of your thoughts. Thank you.

I'm not selling anything. HD Cheerleaders are. But no one's buying FrankenBLOC stooge-radios. When they do, they quickly return them.

I can be as supercilious as I please, but Cheerleader ennui begets customer apathy.

And it pleases me to tell you, Cheerleaders' officious arrogance ill serves their purposes.

Do you believe iNiquity's admission re 'putting half the AM stations off the air and no one would notice' won't come back to bite them come 'our inevitable litigious future'? If that isn't an admission of prior ill intent, please, won't you enlighten us as to what is?

HD Bund's arrogant admissions have by no means passed unnoticed. Can they say, "Here I am, Ma! Top o' the world!" ? Their cocky argumentiveness pleases me.

No, I didn't hit a nerve, I hit a neural trunk, as evidenced by all the overstated protests.

This was a good exchange. I am honored.

Dr. Paul VIncent Zecchino
Manasota Key, Florida
20 March, 2007

I wish you would laminate it and stick it in your wallet. You seem to be in dire need of ways to make a point using fewer words.

As for hitting a nerve, hey, if it helps you sleep at night, feel free to think that way. My only agenda at the moment is to inform the Emperor that he seems to be missing his clothes. You see, you are a man of many words yet you can't appear to make a point. It's mostly "Hey! Look at me! I read Reader's Digest's 'Enrich your Word Power!'"

The flaws in what I think are your arguments have been exposed. Yet, instead of replying to the facts as laid out to you, you go back to the famous anti-HD tactic of calling anyone involved in HD a "crook" and anything to do with HD "failed".

I believe that David made some very good points rebutting you, yet you don't seem to want to reply to them directly as he has with yours. Is it because you can't? Is he right? What about what R.F. Burns said? You must have some sort of opinion?

You appear to be an intelligent life-form, or at least you're taking great pains to make us think as such. If that is the case, you must be able to engage in intelligent discourse. Or is your motive simply to call names, point fingers, and run at the first sign of a debate.

Really, I hope for the latter. As several people here have proven, the ones who really don't want to have intelligent debates seem to be the ones who help the HD radio cause the most.

I have to give Supercaster some respect. I may not agree with him, but at least he at least engages in point-by-point debates.

 

[paul vincent zecchino]

Isnt' it great when HD Cheerleaders make your points for you? We needn't worry about mounting intelligent arguments against iBLOC. HD Cheerleaders do it for us.

As brilliant proponents of legitimate radio, above, point out, a guy says we have to save the dying AM band by wiping stations off the map with HD jamming.

Heaven help you if BLOCthink infects your fire department. They'll claim to save your burning home by pouring kerosene upon it.

HD is founded upon a lie. We really can't blame the hapless lads who shill for stooge-radio, can we? How else can they defend lies but by telling more of them?

Do you see how a twisted underlying premise such as HD warps all who support it?

Won't our loving Tort Lawyers have fun with Stooge-radio's blatant admission? Didn't iNiquity leave itself wide open by callously dismissing local hard working family businesses by arrogantly gassing off:

"We could lose half the AM stations and no one would notice."

No one? Not the station owners? Not their loyal listeners? Their advertisers?

Might that remark, a study in sophomoric Hahvud hubris, better apply to its maker?

Couldn't we lose iNiquity, TeamBLOC, HD Cotillion, BigKorpseorate KronyKasters?

We certainly could. The spectrum would be free from destructive unlawful interference, reinvented by a complicit FCC as HD stooge-radio. Programs would be interesting.

We'd notice TeamBLOC's evaporation the same way we'd notice a merciful soul who opens a window to allow fresh air into a room full of flatulence.

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchino
Manasota Key, Florida
20 March, 2007

 

[paul vincent zecchino]

Are you trying to get a rise out of me with that hamfisted snarky rhetoric? People get my points immediately and so do HD Cheerleaders. That's why they're flailing away.

By the by, who is David? Is that his real name? Is he really just an old radio afficianado? No vested interest in promoting HD Stooge-radio? None? None at all?

Who called HD Bund 'crooks'?

See what I mean? The more HD Cheerleaders talk, the more they give themselves away.

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchino
Manasota Key, Florida
20 March, 2007

 

[IBOCRocks]

Are you trying to get a rise out of me with that hamfisted snarky rhetoric? People get my points immediately and so do HD Cheerleaders. That's why they're flailing away.

By the by, who is David? Is that his real name? Is he really just an old radio afficianado? No vested interest in promoting HD Stooge-radio? None? None at all?

Who called HD Bund 'crooks'?

See what I mean? The more HD Cheerleaders talk, the more they give themselves away.

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchino
Manasota Key, Florida
20 March, 2007

You really are fascinating. All this talk, yet you still haven't rebutted anything. All you've done is use the typical tactic of name-calling, and when that doesn't work, claim victory anyway.

Just for clarification, are you going to actually debate the facts laid out for you, or just continue to sling insults and claim victory? I just want to make sure we're on the same page.

By the way, your "reverse psychology" method of writing ("the more the HD Cheerleaders talk, the more they give away") is very reminiscent of another poor soul who found himself banned for using this board as a soapbox instead of a discussion forum.

Don't worry yourself, I don't intend to get a rise out of you. I'd have to truly care if I wished to do that. You're just another guy on the soapbox on the corner, wishing to broadcast his point of view without caring a bit about the concept of open discussion.

It's a common trait of people who don't fully understand HD: Let's not openly discuss, lest the truth come out.

I've got respect for guys like Supersound and Mr. Wells. While I disagree with them, they are less inclined to just shout opinions and instead actually participate. A skill that you should really learn.

 

[paul vincent zecchino]

Debate? Why should I debate you or anyone else? What does that accomplish? I have weeds to pull, doors to paint, floors to sweep. Besides, I'm unworthy of HD stooge-radio, aren't I? Doesn't that make me one of about three hundred million Americans who see stooge-radio for the scam that it is? Isn't debating the merits of HD radio akin to debating the virtues of fascism? Is that why the bunker mentality that defines HD stooge-radio is waxing to a fine frenzied hysteria?

Besides, how can one debate HD cheerleaders? Make a point, they change the subject. Make another, they blat shuffled statistics. Question them, and they piously moralize. As with everything HD, nothing is on the level.

Look, HD is a 'done deal', isn't it? So, what is left to debate? "HD is gonna happen!" say stooge-radio backers. How can the undersigned worthless scribe debate such wisdom?

You respect others but not me? Yes? Is there more to that or am I supposed to guess?

Is that the name of a good book, some light reading for the beach, perhaps?

Who cares? Isn't that more vintage HD sanctimony? You know, the doomsday argument...when out of lies, dodges, feints, and other creative logical pirouettes, condemn all heretics who dare question St. FrankenBLOC the Radio-Stooge?

I think so.

Isn't HD stooge-radio proof that with a little help from 'partners', one can not only fashion silk purses from sow droppings, but in fact one can sell them for big cash?

I believe this to be so.

Good health to all.

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchino
Manasota Key, Florida
20 March, 2007

 

[R.F. Burns]

Debate? Why should I debate you or anyone else? What does that accomplish? I have weeds to pull, doors to paint, floors to sweep. Besides, I'm unworthy of HD stooge-radio, aren't I? Doesn't that make me one of about three hundred million Americans who see stooge-radio for the scam that it is? Isn't debating the merits of HD radio akin to debating the virtues of fascism? Is that why the bunker mentality that defines HD stooge-radio is waxing to a fine frenzied hysteria?

Besides, how can one debate HD cheerleaders? Make a point, they change the subject. Make another, they blat shuffled statistics. Question them, and they piously moralize. As with everything HD, nothing is on the level.

Look, HD is a 'done deal', isn't it? So, what is left to debate? "HD is gonna happen!" say stooge-radio backers. How can the undersigned worthless scribe debate such wisdom?

You respect others but not me? Yes? Is there more to that or am I supposed to guess?

Is that the name of a good book, some light reading for the beach, perhaps?

Who cares? Isn't that more vintage HD sanctimony? You know, the doomsday argument...when out of lies, dodges, feints, and other creative logical pirouettes, condemn all heretics who dare question St. FrankenBLOC the Radio-Stooge?

I think so.

Isn't HD stooge-radio proof that with a little help from 'partners', one can not only fashion silk purses from sow droppings, but in fact one can sell them for big cash?

I believe this to be so.

Good health to all.

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchino
Manasota Key, Florida
20 March, 2007

If this isn't Mr. Leonard Kahn or a true believer of his may I suggest you be careful or be charged with plagerism.


"Isn't HD stooge-radio proof that with a little help from 'partners', one can not only fashion silk purses from sow droppings, but in fact one can sell them for big cash?

I believe this to be so.

Good health to all."


"I, Leonard R. Kahn truly believe the above stated facts and opinions are accurate and are not meant to mislead."

Hmm

 

[EasyPeazy]

Debate? Why should I debate you or anyone else? What does that accomplish? I have weeds to pull, doors to paint, floors to sweep. Besides, I'm unworthy of HD stooge-radio, aren't I? Doesn't that make me one of about three hundred million Americans who see stooge-radio for the scam that it is? Isn't debating the merits of HD radio akin to debating the virtues of fascism? Is that why the bunker mentality that defines HD stooge-radio is waxing to a fine frenzied hysteria?

Friendly debate is really what chat boards like this one are all about.

If you're not here to do that, if your sole purpose is to insult the technology then insult its fans you're not making a useful contribution. You should attempt to bring some type of insight to the table and so far, all you've offered is ridiculous made-up words like "BigKorpseorate KronyKasters."

 

[Chuck]

[People like Chuck I can understand somewhat. The guy holds the license to an LPFM that's basically incompatible with HD Radio.

There are a lot of "People Like Chuck" out there. To even the most enthusiastic IBOC supporters, it seems fairly obvious that HD as we currently know it simply is not viable on small radio stations. For better or worse, that has certainly been the conclusion of posters on this Board, including those who are very much in favor of HD.

I know there are well over 900 LPFM's on the air. HD certainly won't do them any good. God knows how many translators there are, but it is a lot, with the possibility of many more on their way. It won't be for them either. Even though you may have no use for these stations, at least some of them have become valuable parts of their respective communities. Sorry if that ruffles anyone's feathers, but it is true.

You have to admit that there are also a lot of small AM's and FM's that will see no benefit from HD, just more problems. If you are an FM that is less than 6000 watts or so, HD will probably not be your friend. It certainly won't do much for you if you are less than 1 kW, unless you only serve a very small area. As for the small AM stations of the world, I don't see this helping at all. In fact for local and regional AM's, it may be the final nail in the coffin.

I understand that something like 80% of the listening audience lives in the top 50 markets (I'm sure David can give the exact figures) but that remaining 20% is still a lot of people who are spread all over the country. Not everyone lives in a top 50 market.

I tend to like solutions that help everyone, not just those with deep pocket books. That’s why I view IBOC with caution. On the other hand, a digital system that helps everyone would be fine by me. I’d welcome it.