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Is it time for the NFL's television rules to be overhauled?

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AbrahamJSimpson said:
And get off my lawn.
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Outdated reference much?

AbrahamJSimpson said:
Way to throw in an outdated reference to prove you’re not remotely part of the audience the advertisers need care about.
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The businesses I patronize know who I am and value my business. They have proven they deserve my business and need not advertise trying to reel me in with all manner of misinformation. I've lived long enough to be able to recognize chicken salad from chicken sh*t.
 
landtuna said:
The businesses I patronize know who I am and value my business. They have proven they deserve my business and need not advertise trying to reel me in with all manner of misinformation. I've lived long enough to be able to recognize chicken salad from chicken sh*t.
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Gentlemen... please let's not let an interesting discussion about broadcast sports become a tawdry reality show.
 
The SB Halftime show is supposed to be a huge event, not just singing from the same studio track. Maroon 5 was not a good choice for halftime. They don't have a broad enough appeal for an event that big. Plus they didn't up their game to be a spectacular event. Look at past acts that were great performances regardless of wether you liked their music or not. Maroon 5 was just flat.
 
Don CT said:
The SB Halftime show is supposed to be a huge event, not just singing from the same studio track. Maroon 5 was not a good choice for halftime. They don't have a broad enough appeal for an event that big.
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We're running out of those kinds of consensus acts. The way the music is being sliced and diced, not that many artists would qualify any more.

Maroon 5 has been around since 2003, a wide range of hits that appeal to different audiences, and Adam Levine is himself a celebrity thanks to The Voice. I think that's why they augment the main artist with some other performers, in order to broaden the appeal.

Put the music together with the sport, and you realize there's becoming less and less that we share as a country.

I thought it was interesting how much of the rappers' performances had to be edited for language.
 
Don CT said:
The SB Halftime show is supposed to be a huge event, not just singing from the same studio track. Maroon 5 was not a good choice for halftime. They don't have a broad enough appeal for an event that big. Plus they didn't up their game to be a spectacular event. Look at past acts that were great performances regardless of wether you liked their music or not. Maroon 5 was just flat.
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And we come back to today's fractured, troubled music scene. There is no contemporary act the Super Bowl can invite that has appeal outside of a rather narrow age/race/national origin-dependent demographic. The performers popular with white 25-44 females strike out with 35-54 males, and the 55+ viewers in all demos have little use for anything contemporary or even dating to the turn of this millennium. Rap has crossed a lot of racial/ethnic lines, but it's still a primarily millennial/late pre-millennial genre, and its reliance on gutter language to "keep it real" makes it impossible for network TV to present to its fans in the manner they want to hear it. The safest route is classic rock, but the base -- even though it's full of football fans -- is old, white and shrinking, not what Madison Avenue wants. I have no idea if there's even a solution other than dropping the halftime show for a traditional highlights/analysis/features approach and give up on reaching the "casual fan" in great numbers -- just hope they flip back to the game after watching Puppy Bowl, figure skating, a bit of a movie, something on Netflix, whatever, for that half-hour.
 
Fractured, sure, though there has long been generational disconnect to a varying degree. Troubled for the broad industry? Not necessarily, if the ability to find some mass appeal halftime act to fill 15 minutes or so is the barometer.

A conundrum for the league, for certain.
 
TheBigA said:
We're running out of those kinds of consensus acts. The way the music is being sliced and diced, not that many artists would qualify any more.
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Eh. This idea of musical consensus in past decades is mostly a false construction. Pretty much every Super Bowl halftime show I have merely tolerated. Maybe the one exception was the Black Eyed Peas 8 or 9 years ago. But I bet the same folks who didn't like Maroon 5 didn't like the Peas, either.

Having said that, rap is probably more of a turnoff to someone in their 50s than Paul McCartney would be to someone in their 30s.
 
landtuna said:
Not me. Don't watch Hollywood self-gratifying shows and I specifically don't watch, or listen, to rap or virtually all 'modern' pop music.
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I gave up on the Grammys years ago. It used to be the only awards show I liked to watch because of the performances but now there are fewer that I want to see and most of the awards I'm interested in are in the "Awards presented earlier," which actually wouldn't be a bad idea for other awards shows to keep them from dragging on for too long.
 
Another problem is having NFL Honors on a 3 hour tape delay but announcing everything before hand. Why bother sit through the show knowing who won what. Can't they just do the show live?
 
TheBigA said:
It might have been disgusting if it hadn't been edited. The editing just created dead air.

Get ready for lots more editing during the Grammy Awards.
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What is wrong with this picture?

I liked a Trump speech and I liked a Cardi B song. And yes, it was a song that had to be edited a couple of times. I finally got around to watching (mostly fast-forwarding through performances) the American Awards for Something Resembling Music.
PTBoardOp94 said:
Eh. This idea of musical consensus in past decades is mostly a false construction. Pretty much every Super Bowl halftime show I have merely tolerated. Maybe the one exception was the Black Eyed Peas 8 or 9 years ago. But I bet the same folks who didn't like Maroon 5 didn't like the Peas, either.

Having said that, rap is probably more of a turnoff to someone in their 50s than Paul McCartney would be to someone in their 30s.
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With a few exceptions. Cardi B was actually rapping in that song I liked. Also, it was amazing that on a documentary about Fred Rogers, they chose "Rappers Delight" as the music for one scene. Very good song.

"Thrift Shop" is another.
 
CTListener said:
And we come back to today's fractured, troubled music scene. There is no contemporary act the Super Bowl can invite that has appeal outside of a rather narrow age/race/national origin-dependent demographic. The performers popular with white 25-44 females strike out with 35-54 males, and the 55+ viewers in all demos have little use for anything contemporary or even dating to the turn of this millennium. Rap has crossed a lot of racial/ethnic lines, but it's still a primarily millennial/late pre-millennial genre, and its reliance on gutter language to "keep it real" makes it impossible for network TV to present to its fans in the manner they want to hear it. The safest route is classic rock, but the base -- even though it's full of football fans -- is old, white and shrinking, not what Madison Avenue wants. I have no idea if there's even a solution other than dropping the halftime show for a traditional highlights/analysis/features approach and give up on reaching the "casual fan" in great numbers -- just hope they flip back to the game after watching Puppy Bowl, figure skating, a bit of a movie, something on Netflix, whatever, for that half-hour.
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Your point is well taken, but I think the fact that the music scene is increasingly fractured is beside the point when it comes to Half Time. Even older demos will appreciate a good show, despite the genre. Prince did it. Some non-classic rock acts did it -- Shania, Katy Perry, Coldplay, Bruno Mars, etc. Their songs were catchy enough to cross genres and they put on a good show.

Maroon 5 had the hits. Their show didn't live up to the potential. And that's sad, because they are a pretty good pop act.
 
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Maroon 5 had the hits. Their show didn't live up to the potential. And that's sad, because they are a pretty good pop act.
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I can't blame Maroon 5 for that. The show's producer, the NFL, felt that had to incorporate other artists, and that confused the show.

In the middle of the show, all of a sudden we see SpongeBob SquarePants. Can you imagine that happening to Springsteen?

Then a couple of rappers take the show over. They do a few songs, and then Maroon 5 come back. It was a mess.
 
TheBigA said:
I can't blame Maroon 5 for that. The show's producer, the NFL, felt that had to incorporate other artists, and that confused the show.

In the middle of the show, all of a sudden we see SpongeBob SquarePants. Can you imagine that happening to Springsteen?

Then a couple of rappers take the show over. They do a few songs, and then Maroon 5 come back. It was a mess.
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It's amazing how the NFL is afraid of a Halftime show controversy but is fine to employ wife beaters and murderers.
 
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