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Is there about to be another format flip for Cumulus-Nashville?

I just wish people would work with what they got. This station went from Star 97, oldies (good choice), Rock N Roll hits of the 60s and 70s, to Classic hits. People dont even know what to call the station anymore. It seems like every time you go to the station it is called something else. Also, does anyone know the current status of Coyote and Cathy? Thats what they need to do is bring CAC back for a lunch time show since they are stuck with Bob and Tom for () years.
 
Here's a novel idea////

Move 92 Q to the better 97.1 signal and continue to increase 25+, which is already doing, amazingly enough, well.
(But, part of the marketing plan would have to include to be sure to update it a little and starting running off listeners.)
Let 92.1 be the throw away B&T sleeper station. Maybe turn it off about 9 PM to save electricity. Now, Crumulus
has a real issue with the huge success of The Fan after beating LAC. No flip there for fifteen more books.
 
I just hope they don't change it to Radio Disney. The River is close enough to that format anyway with
8 year old girls shouting, "The Wiver!" 8 times an hours. They need to dump Bob and Tom (I know, not
possible) and do something different. Maybe Rhythmic AC, anything but what they're doing.
Classic Hits 97 is stale and boring. It's like drinking a warm coke that's lost it's fizz and has been
sitting out on the counter for 10 hours.
 
Oldies Cat said:
SwissVol said:
GiggityGiggity said:
From what I hear on the streets, the change will be to "Eagle 97.1". Because that will fix everything.

At the risk of making someone in this forum angry, what is it about big corporate radio hot shots that makes these guys think that a snazzy name (The Eagle The Wolf The Beaver or whatever), morning show hosts that laugh hysterically when nothing funny has been said, what is it about corporate radio that these things I mention keep going on and on and on?

Not to be overly critical here, but snazzy names for the stations, morning hosts that chuckle and laugh make a radio station NOT. I think it is clever musical programing that makes a great music formatted radio station. These others things such as station names or morning hosts are just the proverbial icing on the cake. JMO!!!




"Snazzy names" and morning shows laughing at not-funny stuff are not the creations of "corporate radio". Why is it that any radio station owned by one of the bigger groups not doing well has anything to do with ownership? There are top-ranked stations owned by the majors and lower tier dogs owned by smaller operators- everywhere. Get off the "if it's owned by a big group, they suck" kick. It's a sign of being frustrated, bitter and mediocre in talent.


Wow, I guess You told me the hell off. LOLOL Forgive me, I guess I have been listening to Jim Ladd and Tom Pety gripe about the evil corporate radio moguls. LOL

I think I posted in here way back when they went to this classic hits format (Last September) that this was a lot to do about nothing. Even Romer made a crack about the format as I recall. I think it was him that made that comment about the new format.

Anyway, hopefully something new and refreshing will come in.
 
It's a darn good thing Cumulus took ESPN brand away from 560 WNSR. That was a ratings coup, if you consider a consistent 1.0 share or lower worth the fight. A 97.1 change to Classic Rock or "Eagle" would be a repeat of 104.5 in the late 80's and early 90's. Kicks, Rock Hits, the Fox, Arrow, Groovin' Hits, Groovin' Oldies, Hot 104, ... . Did I leave one or two from this list? Yeah, I can't wait until 97.1 plays "Stay" by Jackson Browne four times a day (sarcasm). If 97.1 wants a power gold or nostalgia format, go all out. Play some disco, classic soul, 80's, even a 1950's blast every now and then. Toss in some cheesy, lesser hits. Add some deeper, quality hits. Try opening a music rotation to more than the same 250 to 300 songs repeated every day, or every other day.

"Eagle 97.1, hello caller."

"Uh, yeah we love the change to classic rock. We're tokin' a little doob here in Antioch and wuz wunderrrin' if you could play 'Free Bird'. Thanks."

"Caller, you got it, because that's what we do at the NEW Eagle 97.1, play the same OLD songs over and over."
 
courier37027 said:
It's a darn good thing Cumulus took ESPN brand away from 560 WNSR. That was a ratings coup, if you consider a consistent 1.0 share or lower worth the fight. A 97.1 change to Classic Rock or "Eagle" would be a repeat of 104.5 in the late 80's and early 90's. Kicks, Rock Hits, the Fox, Arrow, Groovin' Hits, Groovin' Oldies, Hot 104, ... . Did I leave one or two from this list? Yeah, I can't wait until 97.1 plays "Stay" by Jackson Browne four times a day (sarcasm). If 97.1 wants a power gold or nostalgia format, go all out. Play some disco, classic soul, 80's, even a 1950's blast every now and then. Toss in some cheesy, lesser hits. Add some deeper, quality hits. Try opening a music rotation to more than the same 250 to 300 songs repeated every day, or every other day.

"Eagle 97.1, hello caller."

"Uh, yeah we love the change to classic rock. We're tokin' a little doob here in Antioch and wuz wunderrrin' if you could play 'Free Bird'. Thanks."

"Caller, you got it, because that's what we do at the NEW Eagle 97.1, play the same OLD songs over and over."

Not that there is anything wrong with Freebird because it is a great song imo, but you're exactly right about songs such as Freebird or Pour some Sugar by Def Leppard have just absolutely been beaten to death.

In addition to playing Freebird, they might also play "Mr Banker or Missippi Kid or Blues Medley by Skynyrd. Playing some other songs by the great classic rockers would be something we can all hope for one bright and sunny day.

Not going to ever happen again, at least not soon anyway, but hey, it makes good discussions.
 
SwissVol said:
Did anyone in this forum besides me ever listen to 97.1 on Sunday evenings when the Deep cuts program was on? The show was local and the show was programmed by Jake and his callers. Other than myself, did anyone else ever listen to this show? If so, did you all enjoy the show as much as I enjoyed the show>?You got to hear album rock cuts and rock cuts long forgotten by current modern day radio, which I guess why I enjoyed the show so much.It Made listening to radio fun again.

When I talk about some kind of programming other than the same ole same ole, Deep cuts is exactly what I mean by this.

I have to agree, the all time stupid award goes to the brain trusts at Cumulast who let Jake Wylde walk out the door. IMHO he was without a doubt the next-big-thing in talk on Stupidtalk 99.7. The only thing on that whole station that wasn’t a bunch of pompous conservative blowhards spouting Bush White House propaganda was Nightline with Jake. When they threw the guy a bone and let him program a deep cuts show I thought “maby this is their way of getting him into programming a great rock station.” Then just when the show starts to get mass numbers and listeners, BOOM Cumulast does what its known best for and blows it up again. If the Buzz was smart they would hire Jake yesterday and turn him loose. Cumulus had their chance and they blew it twice, first with the Rooster and now with 97.1. Will the last listener please turn the lights off on their way out?
 
Does anyone really think ClassicsHits97.1 is going anywhere? Just because Crumulus is to lame to have a website or pay for it's
up keep is not a sign of the demise of this "gem" of a radio station. What is left to program?

a.) Jazz. No way it might get above a 2.5 share and be inexpensive to promote.
2.) Christian. The frequency is possessed. No go, unless you exorcise that tin can. Might make some money. No way.
c.) El Spanishador - that would make sense, steal away another small AM's bread and butter.
 
Fredj1979 said:
SwissVol said:
Did anyone in this forum besides me ever listen to 97.1 on Sunday evenings when the Deep cuts program was on? The show was local and the show was programmed by Jake and his callers. Other than myself, did anyone else ever listen to this show? If so, did you all enjoy the show as much as I enjoyed the show>?You got to hear album rock cuts and rock cuts long forgotten by current modern day radio, which I guess why I enjoyed the show so much.It Made listening to radio fun again.

When I talk about some kind of programming other than the same ole same ole, Deep cuts is exactly what I mean by this.

I have to agree, the all time stupid award goes to the brain trusts at Cumulast who let Jake Wylde walk out the door. IMHO he was without a doubt the next-big-thing in talk on Stupidtalk 99.7. The only thing on that whole station that wasn’t a bunch of pompous conservative blowhards spouting Bush White House propaganda was Nightline with Jake. When they threw the guy a bone and let him program a deep cuts show I thought “maby this is their way of getting him into programming a great rock station.” Then just when the show starts to get mass numbers and listeners, BOOM Cumulast does what its known best for and blows it up again. If the Buzz was smart they would hire Jake yesterday and turn him loose. Cumulus had their chance and they blew it twice, first with the Rooster and now with 97.1. Will the last listener please turn the lights off on their way out?

I never actually saw the rating book numbers on Jake's Sunday Deep Cuts show, but based on callers, it seemed to be doing prety well. You had to enjoy a show that would play a Hawkwind song followed by Spanish Caravan by Jim and the Doors. It was certainly
a much better presentation than that same ole same ole we heard during the week. I called Jake a few times praising what he we doing with the Sunday show. I guess he knew they would soon cut that out of the mix as well. He was typically loyal though and refused to comment negatively on the 97.1 situation.
 
First time I heard Deep Cuts, Jake was playing Budgie. Budgie. I forgot all about them. Look, it's a great show, but an impossible format. No PD would take the time it would take to program that. With sound codes and all. No, the smart PD hires Jake and has him do a blend of both shows. I only hope because he told me he would try to get me a job on his show.
 
Nothing as of 10:30. Same promos,

same music. But the under construction website is intriguing.
 
Labor Day weekend is just next weekend. They switched from Oldies to Classic Hits on Labor Day Weekend last year. IF they are going to CHANGE FORMATS again, I wouldn't look for any changes before LABOR DAY WEEKEND!!!
 
GiggityGiggity said:
First time I heard Deep Cuts, Jake was playing Budgie. Budgie. I forgot all about them. Look, it's a great show, but an impossible format. No PD would take the time it would take to program that. With sound codes and all. No, the smart PD hires Jake and has him do a blend of both shows. I only hope because he told me he would try to get me a job on his show.


I sometimes plug in XM radio's Deep Tracks at the office. The older guys like myself all get this kind of radio, but if it is not hit music classic rock, younger people just do not get it. I know some of you all have a good grasp of this kind of radio since some of you are in the business, but it amazes me how younger people heard John Mayall from the Empty Rooms album and pretty much go: That's not rock dude. Grrrr, frustrating huh? The equivalent to hay mane, play us some Fray Bird out here in Antioch . lol

There are many deeper cut vintage rock shows popping up all over the USA now. Fred Buck's Retro Lightning on Saturdays has always been a fav of mine, even though Fred mixes it up to fit a more mainstream presentation. There is Beaker Street out of Little Rock also. There is a web site that posts the play lists from his sight. Jim Ladd from KLOS in LA has a free form show . Ladd has a strong love for Doors and Zeppelin tracks.

As this kind of music ages past primo demos, if it has not done so already, you'll not hear anything such as this other than a passing mention in the future on terrestrial radio. Sad but true!
 
as of the 18th.."BIG"..al brock is history at 97.1 according to R&R...gee...maybe i should get up in the attic and look for some old air checks...let's see, the last time i worked at a real station..we were pulling 6 shares on weekends..but didn't have a clue what that meant..too busy having fun with a capitol "F"..Our 60 sec spots were 3.00...gives you an idea how long ago that was.. :eek:
 
That's the current going rate for weekends on WRQQQQQ, with or without the great six. :)

Crumulus couldn't keep any good talent if they had to. They would have fired Dave Ramsey if he was not
syndicated. Sure, the Dickey brothers are making more money than most of us will ever see, but they still
have never maximized their potential. I guess it doesn't matter.
 
Tibbs2 said:
That's the current going rate for weekends on WRQQQQQ, with or without the great six. :)

Crumulus couldn't keep any good talent if they had to. They would have fired Dave Ramsey if he was not
syndicated. Sure, the Dickey brothers are making more money than most of us will ever see, but they still
have never maximized their potential. I guess it doesn't matter.

Agree, Tibbs. Not a very solidly-run organization. Way to top-down.
 
UPDATE.
The flip is going to happen. It will be Classic Rock. It will be aimed right at WNRQ. The name will be "Eagle" something. The only question is "When?"

Check this out, the website www.971eagle.com was just registered two weeks ago by Cumulus broadcasting. In fact, if you go to this site it will directly go to the cumulus home page.

Another thing, the name "eagle" is currently used by a Saga station in Clarksville. Didn't Cumulus have issues with station names a few years back with the Beaver (The Rooster 106.7), with the same company?
 
GETALIFELOSERS said:
UPDATE.
The flip is going to happen. It will be Classic Rock. It will be aimed right at WNRQ. The name will be "Eagle" something. The only question is "When?"

Check this out, the website www.971eagle.com was just registered two weeks ago by Cumulus broadcasting. In fact, if you go to this site it will directly go to the cumulus home page.

Another thing, the name "eagle" is currently used by a Saga station in Clarksville. Didn't Cumulus have issues with station names a few years back with the Beaver (The Rooster 106.7), with the same company?

Or a trial balloon. Most radio groups have bought web addresses as just-in-case backups in the event of flips. I don't know what kind of leverage they think they'll have, especially with a successful Jack plus the long-term strength of WNRQ. Cumulus flubbed Oldies, I'm sure they'll step in 'it' with whatever format concoction is next.
 
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