Deregulation happened in 1996. If that was the reason, why'd they wait 12 years?
Tastes change, and we see tastes change in the way people use radio. The decline is gradual, but it reaches a tipping point, and that's when we change a format.
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It's 2015! Time to get rid of the '70s.
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Deregulation happened in 1996. If that was the reason, why'd they wait 12 years?
Tastes change, and we see tastes change in the way people use radio. The decline is gradual, but it reaches a tipping point, and that's when we change a format.
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Because Clear Channel hadn't gotten their paws on them until then.
This is one that changed. It was done right after the Christmas music had finished: http://www.raleighing.com/2006/12/sunny-93-9-reaches-dusk/
On top of changing the format, was getting rid of local DJ's, whom you could trust to be kid-friendly with what was said on air.
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Clear Channel bought the station from another consolidator, AM/FM, in 1999. Why would they have waited over 6 years to change unless the change was intended to improve the performance of a station (although it didn't do that) that had a severe demographic problem that was getting worse by the year?
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Another one they got from AMFM, WMAG, didn't change immediately in 1999 either. They continued playing soft hits until 2005 or 2006. Change-up in music selections was also after the Christmas flip.
I wouldn't have been as mad at the change if it had been gradually instead of suddenly.
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Until the cops show up and cite you.
Yeah I did (him, btw..), but yes, it's much higher than "10". These guys tend to downplay things.
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When an AC station in a single market gets nearly a quarter of a million "concurrent" listeners during part of December, while those streams that Music Lover has mentions have caps between 50 and 100 streams, it is very hard to take them at all seriously... particularly since the ones with higher caps generally don't ever even get that many listeners.
The "graveyard" AM in Petoskey, MI has more average listeners than any of those streams.
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Oldies76,
New AC stream I just came across recently. I don't know what the daytime music is like yet but the nighttime show, called Dream Time, is pretty good. www.splash-fm.com
New AC stream I just came across recently. I don't know what the daytime music is like yet but the nighttime show, called Dream Time, is pretty good. www.splash-fm.com
Maybe they're jealous cause we're not listening to them and their commercials.
I've been pretty consistent on this subject: We don't care if you don't listen. But for people who don't listen, you sure complain a lot.
As I've said many time: Enjoy your streams while you can. Don't expect any of us to change our very successful radio stations to suit your personal taste.
You don't need to. The stations that play the songs we enjoy far outnumber the ones that don't, whether they rank a 0.0 or an 8.0
Now hopefully after 45 pages, the "enthusiasts" of music can discuss ways radio can improve even further to deliver a great experience to all listeners with a goldmine of music available to play. You have yet to convince us.
I'm convinced that if you had your ways beyond the large markets, every station outside of your area, would be made to sound like them, with the same 400 songs.
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So then why do you feel this need to continue to waste our time?
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Thanks, sounds really good, but the big wigs will never listen (and WE don't care either). They are stuck with ages old, suppressive methods, that really should have been changed and reformed years ago.
I just don't understand it! There are people on this board that have made it their life's work to understand certain principles and put them to work. Over and over, they try to explain what is and why and it makes perfect sense to me. On the other side, we have people who either don't believe or just ignore the information. It's like one side saying that red is not blue and giving concise reasons why not and the other side saying that red is indeed blue and not only that, every third Tuesday, it's also yellow, which by coincidence is also the same day that four is seven AND this has been going on for over a decade that I know about!
For years I hosted an "oh-wow song" show on a top rated Soft Rock/AC station, and it had professionals in the market calling me with appreciation. While it wasn't 100% "oh-wows", management liked what I was doing, even when I went rouge and played songs that carried substantiate reason for airing them: "Up on Cripple Creek" when Levon Helm passed away, or "Indian Reservation (The Lament of the Cherokee Reservation Indian)" commemorating the week it hit No.1. Am I off in thinking, with the right creative content, flare in presentation, and delicate balance between solid hits and "oh-wows", that great music, period, can be played regardless of its date of release?
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When I'm passionate about something, I can be a very outspoken person.
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Daytime music is more upbeat. Just a minute ago, "Sweet Child O' Mine" by Guns N Roses played.
And they should. You are doing the right thing.
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And they are so slavishly dedicated to those principles that when people point out that the "emperor is naked" and their cherished paradigms that they treat as if they were holy writ are, in fact, outdated and no longer truly accurate, the respond with anger and bitterness, and cling to their outmoded thinking with passion. And, it's not nearly as clear cut as comparing red and blue. The fact that they cannot grasp the subtle complexities of the situation, and insist on oversimplifying it only demonstrates how deeply in the rut their thinking runs.
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