TheBigA said:
What Spring book? ;D
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Jhani Kaye Leaving KRTH/KTWV
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What Spring book? ;D
sidsbells said:
Don Burns has a great voice, but he moved to Palm Springs way before he left the Wave and was voice tracking his show. When Kaye came on board he wanted a "live" afternoon show, and Burns for whatever reason couldn't or wouldn't move back to LA. They could use a male voice on as a regular. They have 2 male jocks on the weekends that both have good track records, so one of them could work full-time, there just aren't any available slots unless they shorten shifts or fire someone already there and the odds are against that.
Shotgun Tom talking in a soft voice twice an hour. Playing Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey. My worst nightmare. IT will be just like he retired. 
DavidEduardo said:
...that The Wave will soon be The Fan.
ChannelFlipper said:
How do you know? Got an inside source at CBS headquarters? Or just speculating like the rest of them? No matter what David Eduardo says, it won't happen unless CBS wants it to. Right now, even though David says they could make more money doing sports, there is an over-saturation of sports in LA and none of them really do that well, though they may make money they don't make great ratings,
Kaye apparently has his detractors. There are those who feel that KRTH will fail as time goes on because of audience aging out of the demos. This is a well thought out scenario and I tend to agree that unless the station can evolve, it will eventually die. But it is evolving, into the 80's now and in time they will add 90's or die trying. Kaye proved that a great PD can fix a format. Problem is, there aren't that many great PD's, and even the good ones are at the mercy of the "suits" who have f'd up this industry to the point where it's being written off by every naysayer with a computer.
calguy said:
Dana, I did not say anything would happen. I said, like the rest of us, we are simply rubbernecking.
I said no such thing.
I did say that, given the mediocre (KRTH) to poor (KTWV) 25-54 ratings, and given the CBS spoken word initiatives, there is likely is some conversation and deliberation about the future of those two underperforming stations.
calguy said:
Easy Calguy, take the bitter-old-retired-insider-guy hat off for awhile so we can all have some fun, eh? I have self-identified many times as a regular listener with not a minute of industry experience, who just happens to follow the industry closely. Therefore my comment is pure speculation, just like what everyone else does on this board, even the esteemed Mr. Eduardo, by his own admission. I know you look down on us outsiders with nothing more than speculation to offer, but if this site was for insiders only, there wouldn't be a site.
My speculation is based on known facts and reasonable assumptions, specifically (1) that CBS has a new sports network with no clearance in LA (the mighty ten something in TJ/San Diego does not count), (2) KTWV seems to be backing away from its direct competition with KOST by going back to a more smooth jazz format, essentially a format they had already given up on, and thus possibly signaling an entirely new future direction for the station, and (3) Unlike CC, CBS has much more to gain by being the first to put sports on FM. Sports on FM in the future in this town is a metaphysical certitude (to borrow someone else's term), and there is plenty of advantage to whoever gets there first. Although the network has a distribution deal with Cumulus, it is highly unlikely that they would allow what is essentially a competitor to put the network on KLOS when there is so much more upside they can keep for themselves by keeping the property on their own O&O in market #2 LA.
BTW, I could be wrong in all of this, but so what? That puts me in the vast majority of speculators on this board. I will be quite happy when you share some of your inside sources' info to prove me so.
Who said I'm retired ChannelFlipper? I'm not. I'm still working in the business, and I'm not ancient or bitter either. But I as an insider can tell you that the industry has changed quite a bit, and lately it's not for the good. If that's something you see as bitter I understand, maybe there's a slight tinge of bitter every so often. But it's because I realize what was and where the suits are taking it. Doesn't seem too attractive when you envision it. I've got a lot of friends who are very good at what they do that have been devastated by the incompetence of the industry leaders and are now struggling to just pay the rent.
Though Mr. Carver could be fibbing, I have it on good authority that he still believes that Sports will not be on the Wave and said as much yesterday. Yes, I know people who were in the room when the announcement was made. But sales guys and GM's have been telling people not to worry for years, only to do exactly what they said they won't. I'm sure that the honchos at CBS are looking at every aspect.
You're correct, that's what these boards are for, speculation based on known facts and assumptions. However it isn't always that way. There's a lot of misinformation being passed along too by people who keep the old rumors going. Feel free to do that if you so desire, it makes it entertaining. By the way, I seldom if ever wear a hat unless I'm playing baseball or am at an MLB game.
Though Mr. Carver could be fibbing, I have it on good authority that he still believes that Sports will not be on the Wave and said as much yesterday. Yes, I know people who were in the room when the announcement was made. But sales guys and GM's have been telling people not to worry for years, only to do exactly what they said they won't. I'm sure that the honchos at CBS are looking at every aspect.
You're correct, that's what these boards are for, speculation based on known facts and assumptions. However it isn't always that way. There's a lot of misinformation being passed along too by people who keep the old rumors going. Feel free to do that if you so desire, it makes it entertaining. By the way, I seldom if ever wear a hat unless I'm playing baseball or am at an MLB game.
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Thomps2525
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In summer of 1993, Rich "Brother" Robbin installed the peculiarly named "Modern Oldies" format at KCBQ-FM in San Diego. Instead of 1950s-60s, they played 1960s-70s. This is 2013, which is...let me do the math here...twenty years past 1993. (I'm very good at math.) Is it time for a 1980s-90s oldies station? Would such a format work on KRTH? Not that anyone at KRTH would be that daring, but there are hundreds of 1980s-90s pop and r&b songs---no hard rock, thank you---that could fill a playlist: Jewel, Phil Collins, Paul McCartney, Elton John, Genesis, Chicago, Men At Work, Cyndi Lauper, Lionel Richie, Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Real McCoy, Ace Of Base, Commodores, Boyz II Men, Duran Duran, Culture Club, New Kids On The Block, and many others.....and we wouldn't have to keep hearing burned-out songs that we got sick of hearing when we were in high school---Brown Eyed Girl, Happy Together, Oh Pretty Woman and Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye chief among them.
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Thomps2525
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"Daring" in the sense that most "classic hits" stations don't play any '90s...and "daring" in the sense that nobody at KRTH would make such a format tweak without spending several months doing callout research and auditorium tests.
LARadioRewind said:
LARadioRewind said:
I agree about the burned out everyday songs, but personally I don't believe KRTH will play much if any 90's anytime soon. The stations has it's core audience, content with the limited 60's, 70's and 80's that it already plays. They've have already added "Smooth" from 1999, "Black or White" from 1991 and there was a time recently when Selena's big hit song was even played on KRTH...I'm not sure if it's aired anymore. But that's it for the 90's.
I believe KRTH risks losing it's seasoned audience if they start adding more 90's and begin eliminating their familiar 60's -80's hits to these new "classics". Who knows what the new PD will do here, but it could be very, very risky.
And it was late 70's and 80's the worst songs from that era on KCBQ.
JohnnyOhJohnny said:
I really think, especially in L.A. that a "KROQ oldies" format is overdue.
calguy said:
It would need some tweaks (lose the Paul McCartney, Fleetwood Mac, Boston, Don Henley, Steve Miller)
michael hagerty said:
Since I've had the new car with HD radio, KROQ-HD2 has had a prominent spot on my channel line-up and I have listened frequently. It's cool because they actually call the station "ROQ of the 80's" and they play all the old jingles along with the classic KROQ music that I grew up with. There are similar stations elsewhere that play the 80's new wave, such as First Wave on Sirius XM and Direct TV has a similar channel, but hearing the music and the station as they were originally presented makes it so much better.
Also, one of the nice things about aging out of the key demos (not that I am there, still quite young thank you!) is that the HD2 channels your music is now relegated to has few if any commercials. You can pick a station and actually leave it there for awhile. KRTH HD-2, KOST HD-2, KROQ HD-2 and all of the KKGO HDs sound really good.
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