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JOURNEY 97.9

Station's got no shot. The alternative format can't crack a 1 share on the same power/location and it owns a position. 80's and 90's is cornered already, you'll never see success here.
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Why is everyone so negative, like some else said at least it sounds alive with the jingles and such. These 250 watters at 1000 feet can pack some punch.
 
BRENT said:
FLjack2 said:
big deal. tiny signal. 80s & 90s. Yawn

Well I am lucky to live a few miles from the tower, but sounds so much better than B98.5. This signal goes farther than you think....


Funny how people are so different in their perception. 97.9's audio is not even in the same league as 98.5.....I'm amazed that you would prefer the way 97.9 sounds.
I'm surprised Cumulus decided to go with a music format that depends on good, quiet signal reception. I really thought they would try to comdy format......that would have been something totally different than anything else on the Atlanta dial. Didn't that do a 4 share in KC on a translator?
I will eat cat squeeze if Cumulus gets a 4 share with this facility and format......
 
grmf said:
99.7 HD3, I figured they would have made it 100.5 HD2

I am surprised that they clogged up the 99.7 frequency with so many HD channels. They need to spread the wealth and put some over onto 100.5. Doesn't the sound quality degrade as you put more HD channels onto one frequency? I know that when you have one station with one HD channel you have full audio quality but when you have two it cuts the bitrate/bitstream in half and when you have three, it cuts that into thirds. I assume they placed it onto the 99.7 frequency to get better coverage, but now Q100 sounds worse in HD.
 
Mark77: Thanks for the airchecks!

All:

I could see this station hurting B98.5, but not knocking it off. But I could see it replacing Rock100.5 or AGH if it does well enough. If B98.5 continues to trend downwards, it could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Now, keep in mind, CC had an all-80s format (WMAX) on 105.3 when the former WYAI (105.3, not 104.1) moved in. The playlist got tighter and tighter and ratings continued to go down, until they finally flipped it to hot talk ("Real Radio", in a post-wardrobe-malfunction world), and then to Buzz (active rock). Granted, CC didn't do well with any of their MAX stations, and certainly not as well as Cox's Point stations (which have evolved to 80s and 90s).

CC also had 80s and 90s AC on 105.7 for a short time, between WGST-FM and WLCL KOOL 105.7 (good times and eight oldies with Randy & Spiff). That was Mix 105.7 WMXT. Perhaps Mix got lost between Peach, B98.5, and a moldering Star 94.

I'm not saying that these examples don't bode well for Journey. But Journey needs to learn from their mistakes--specifically, don't have a shrinking playlist like MAX did, and don't "blend in" like Mix did.
 
RadioDoogie said:
grmf said:
99.7 HD3, I figured they would have made it 100.5 HD2

I am surprised that they clogged up the 99.7 frequency with so many HD channels. They need to spread the wealth and put some over onto 100.5. Doesn't the sound quality degrade as you put more HD channels onto one frequency? I know that when you have one station with one HD channel you have full audio quality but when you have two it cuts the bitrate/bitstream in half and when you have three, it cuts that into thirds. I assume they placed it onto the 99.7 frequency to get better coverage, but now Q100 sounds worse in HD.
I thought you could allocate bandwidth to your subchannels. That is, you could (theoretically) devote 90% of your bandwidth to your music HD1, and 10% of it to a newstalker HD2. IIRC each subchannel doesn't have to have the same bandwidth.
 
taylorengineer said:
97.9's audio is not even in the same league as 98.5.

Could not agree more!

RadioDoogie said:
I assume they placed it onto the 99.7 frequency to get better coverage, but now Q100 sounds worse in HD.

Yes, the 99.7 digital footprint is much larger than the one for 100.5 at the -20 dB injection level. Should they increase the injection level for 100.5, it would be a different story.

The Q100 HD stream sounds exactly the same now as it did before, because the bandwidth allocation remained the same. The bandwidth allocated for the HD2 was split to create the HD3.

jabba17 said:
I thought you could allocate bandwidth to your subchannels. That is, you could (theoretically) devote 90% of your bandwidth to your music HD1, and 10% of it to a newstalker HD2. IIRC each subchannel doesn't have to have the same bandwidth.

Exactly correct. You customize the bandwidth pie however you like (to a certain extent...there is a lower limit on the bandwidth for the main HD channel).
 
Just heard Q100 run a short ad about Journey 97.9. Any chance they might add DJ's in the future or not. At least add a little local personality in the mornings and afternoons.
 
Don't understand why anyone would rather listen to AC on a bad signal on 97.9 than AC on a strong stereo signal on B98.5...

99X got the ratings it did (which weren't great lol) because it was broadcasting a format that couldn't be heard in stereo anywhere on the dial - I can't imagine why anyone would choose Journey 97.9 over B98.5, unless they just plain hate music from the 2000s
 
atlantaboy said:
Don't understand why anyone would rather listen to AC on a bad signal on 97.9 than AC on a strong stereo signal on B98.5...

99X got the ratings it did (which weren't great lol) because it was broadcasting a format that couldn't be heard in stereo anywhere on the dial - I can't imagine why anyone would choose Journey 97.9 over B98.5, unless they just plain hate music from the 2000s

That would be me, I despise the music currently, the music from the 60's 70's and 80's were like no other and never will be. I truly like 97.9, I carried it all the way to Calhoun yesterday.
 
BRENT said:
Why is everyone so negative, like some else said at least it sounds alive with the jingles and such. These 250 watters at 1000 feet can pack some punch.

Sorry, not in a market like Atlanta where most stations are 100kw. Remember how Q100 couldn't get any significant ratings when they were on 100.5? They needed to move to a bigger, better frequency to get big numbers. So Journey will never go anywhere.

Now, there is one exception to all of this. Praise. It gets tremendous numbers on a small signal. Why? The format is extremely unique and has a very loyal following. Plus, it helps that the signal is in-town, slightly south where more African Americans traditionally are located.

One more thing not to forget, WSB-FM may only be getting a 4 share, but the own the market with cume. #1 in fact, with some 200k more then #2, Q. And #3 is WSB-AM. Cox is "it" in Atlanta.
 
I noticed late last night they were playing Michelle Branch's "Breathe." Wasn't that from late 2003/early 2004? It looks like they are expanding their playlist occasionally outside of the 80s/90s. So what are the radio directories or the June/July/August PPMs going to list this station's official format as? Is it going to be "AC" or is it going to be listed as something else?
 
Since Cumulus is notoriously cheap if Journey has jocks they'll probably be VT'd from their other stations. By the way when Cumulus blew up AC Y-105 in Danbury, Connecticut back in January 2010 and relaunched it as Country KICKS 105.5 they kept the same jocks. Their PD was quoted saying that "we trained the jocks in Country Music for months before we launched". Their Country Station in Danbury has jocks 6AM-7PM Monday-Friday. At 7PM they flip on the CMT Radio Network. Then at Midnite they're automated.
 
RadioDoogie said:
I noticed late last night they were playing Michelle Branch's "Breathe." Wasn't that from late 2003/early 2004?

Yeah, they also played Beautiful Day by U2 (2000-2001 I think?) - don't think they're being that strict about the "only 80s/90s" thing
 
jabba17 said:
It's already affected B98.5...B started the All 80s weekend early.
B's also lightened their spot load considerably, to compete with (for now) commercial-free Journey.
 
It's AC in mono competing against AC in stereo - I just don't get it - unless the main goal for all this is to have 99X on a stronger signal (if the stuff about strengthening 99.1 is legit)
 
atlantaboy said:
It's AC in mono competing against AC in stereo - I just don't get it - unless the main goal for all this is to have 99X on a stronger signal (if the stuff about strengthening 99.1 is legit)
97.9 is in stereo. So is 99.1.
 
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