wgliradio said:
I was looking at the WNYZ numbers.
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Long Islanders, you really ARE lucky (re: Party FM)
- Thread starter TonySantiago
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I was looking at the WNYZ numbers.
wgliradio said:
That IS true. Though the Pulse's numbers towards the end were starting to decline.
Look I'm not going to "beat a dead horse" regarding Party on 87.7 in that case. What's done is done and for those that like the music and are able to hear it on 105.3 or 101.5, and enjoy it, then continue to do so. I figure this, after I drink up a couple of mojitos, watching "eye candy" in their bikinis at pool parties, and dressing all hot at the clubs down in Miami in late March for the big "get together" in dance music, the Winter Music Conference, then we'll figure out what our next course should be.
Though I am suggesting to dance music fans to start getting into Internet streams and satellite radio as a source. I also forgot to mention Music Choice on the cable systems as well since they do offer a Dance/Electronica channel. I do have an HD radio so when the signal feels like carrying, lol, I can get 103.5 HD-2. And being that I have my own "online radio show" as well, artists do send me music to play and I'll be more than happy to get it on the air.
Not true! Pulse had a cume of 497k in their last full book during the 4 week survey from October. November 4 week was 297k that was two weeks of no encoding and two weeks of Party. Holiday book was 327k, that was 4 full weeks of party in a book that has no value since most stations are playing holiday music. So lets stop saying Party lost the audience. the audience stayed the same from pulse.
wgliradio said:
You really know what matters?.......
Party is STILL ON 105.3 for almost 12 years, and has been playing hip-hop & dance music within their period of time. Either complain to the station and maybe you're lucky if they flip to YOUR NORMAL MUSIC just for you, or you can just suck it up and get over it, because 101.5 and 105.3 aren't flipping anytime soon.
d21ofnj said:
Actually, the station has been quite mismanaged over time. Those who know me on here know I was a strong believer in putting the format on 92.7 when it was still WLIR.
The format has been tweaked at least a half a dozen times in the 12 years its been on, not to mention the total abandonment of the format during the Channel Casting disaster.
What's on now is a shell of the good idea in 1998... one that can end at a drop of the hat if something better comes along.
wgliradio said:
I gotta admit, wgli is right.
There was a period where the station was hip-hop/R&B, then they did that "channelcast" experiment on all of the TMO stations, that failed miserably. There was also that period where only Andre "The Dre Dog" was the only on-air personality there during the afternoons.
I also agree, when DJ Chris The Greek did the "Island Underground" show on 105.3 and WAS simulcasted to 92.7 along with certain dance tracks added on 'LIR, I was pushing for 'LIR to fully simulcast Party 105 there! That would have made sense at that time. The 92.7 signal in NYC may have been "spotty" at parts but it would have been better there than 87.7. But hey, Univision bought it for $50M and the rest is history.
Tony Santiago said:wgliradio said:
I gotta admit, wgli is right.
There was a period where the station was hip-hop/R&B, then they did that "channelcast" experiment on all of the TMO stations, that failed miserably. There was also that period where only Andre "The Dre Dog" was the only on-air personality there during the afternoons.
I also agree, when DJ Chris The Greek did the "Island Underground" show on 105.3 and WAS simulcasted to 92.7 along with certain dance tracks added on 'LIR, I was pushing for 'LIR to fully simulcast Party 105 there! That would have made sense at that time. The 92.7 signal in NYC may have been "spotty" at parts but it would have been better there than 87.7. But hey, Univision bought it for $50M and the rest is history.
And I can't argue with that. ChannelCast was the most boneheaded move on LI radio. I also was a fan of the "Island Underground" since I was able to pull 92.7 from Jersey (before a pirate took over in Bloomfield) and was a huge listener to LIR afterhours. But let's say if 92.7 DID simulcast Party, how would the reaction be in NYC when TMO had pulled the ChannelCast? If the dance fans were brutal with Party on how they were on 87.7, imagine the reaction if they were on 92.7 back then if they heard ChannelCast at that period, and this was the time when KTU was dumping almost all of their current dance tracks off rotation. I'm just saying with all the errors in their path, I'm just impressed they lasted this long, and starting to gradually go back to old roots via 1998-2002 period. Speaking of Andre, I remember when he would be on 7 days from 2-7 for a while.
The Channelcast thing happened AFTER TMO sold 92.7 to Univision ('LIR sale, 2004, Channelcast, 2005) so the scenario you put out there d21 could never have happened.
WLIR was flirting with dance around 2002 - 2004 or so and believe me, we were pushing for a Party 105 simulcast to happen on 92.7 back then. Some dance fans, who were tired of 'KTU's presentation of the rhythmic format at that time (which DID have some current dance, but more of the old disco/freestyle tracks). were starting to latch on to 'LIR. Granted, 'LIR was still an "alternative" station, as it always had been but dance started to sprinkle in there (you can thank Andre "The Dre Dog" for that.) At the time we thought it would have made sense to have 92.7 simulcast the 105.3 signal there. Albeit there were some issues with the 92.7 signal, it would have been somewhat stronger than 87.7. Party was much more current dance intensive back then. That would have attracted those that wanted a station strictly current, to which 'KTU wasn't doing that much of until Vic Latino's night show...AT 'KTU
However, TMO opted for the money. so as to put into put into the Long Island Press venture. And the rest they say, is history.
WLIR was flirting with dance around 2002 - 2004 or so and believe me, we were pushing for a Party 105 simulcast to happen on 92.7 back then. Some dance fans, who were tired of 'KTU's presentation of the rhythmic format at that time (which DID have some current dance, but more of the old disco/freestyle tracks). were starting to latch on to 'LIR. Granted, 'LIR was still an "alternative" station, as it always had been but dance started to sprinkle in there (you can thank Andre "The Dre Dog" for that.) At the time we thought it would have made sense to have 92.7 simulcast the 105.3 signal there. Albeit there were some issues with the 92.7 signal, it would have been somewhat stronger than 87.7. Party was much more current dance intensive back then. That would have attracted those that wanted a station strictly current, to which 'KTU wasn't doing that much of until Vic Latino's night show...AT 'KTU
However, TMO opted for the money. so as to put into put into the Long Island Press venture. And the rest they say, is history.
Tony Santiago said:
This is what I meant, say if TMO never sold 92.7 (as in decline the deal with Univisoin or never put 92.7 up for sale) and went with the decision to simulcast Party, and then ChannelCast was heard in NYC. Looking over from what I posted earlier, I thought I added if TMO never sold 92.7. I think that would've been more heat than the issue with 87.7, since in 04-05, there weren't as many choices as there is now, and the core fans were sick of KTU putting the classics in heavier rotation than the currents. I guess you can say my scenerio would be that Party would've thought twice to come back on 87.7 IF they were still owned by TMO today if that sell of 92.7 never happened. If it doesn't make sense, nevermind lol.
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