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Michael Berry Accoused Of A Hit And Run Charges Comming
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On his radio show, Berry admits he was speaking out against the advice of his attorney. Look for the attorney -- nationally known defense attorney Dick Deguerin -- to drop Berry as a client soon.
adguy said:
Slander suits? Really? That would force Berry into a court of law where he would be viciously cross examined. You will NEVER see that happen. Why? There is more, much more to the story. Innocent people SCREAM when they are accused of wrongdoing. They give interviews to the media and explain why they are telling the truth and lay it all out. (Google Justin Bieber paternity suit). What they don't do is pull down their Facebook page, pull their Twitter account, lawyer up with one of Houston's most high priced attorneys and then scream from a script they had days to prepare. They answer questions.
Actually, I would be surprised. If Peter Boyles on Clear Channel Denver's KHOW got away with incessantly blaming the parents of Jon Benet Ramsey for her murder, day in, day out, month after month, I don't know how anything less would ever get to court.adguy said:
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aunti-terrestrial
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Welcome, new posters. I had been, still am, and will remain, encouraged by the civil tenor of this sensitive and potentially explosive topic. I will hope that anyone who is in a position to comment at 2000 West Loop South will do so in a straightforward and honest manner. After all, once again, we learn by Kindergarten that when someone resorts to personal attacks, it generally means they've run out of salient points. This is a perfect time to open a dialogue about LGBT issues, such as the dilemmas married people who come out must face, as opposed to the challenges of being single and dating. However, although the time is right, this may not be the proper board for those worthwhile discussions.
I agree, the defense probably wants this over without those big, epic discussions. Houston has a thriving, well-connected artistic community and people do talk.
My background and experience in radio grew out of live shows in local venues, beginning years ago in places with far less artistic expression and cohesion than Houston. I'm still following my first love to this day, and this is an awesome town for it. One thing I can tell you with 100% certainty is that be they near or far, bar, theatre, restaurant, and venue owners universally abhor vehicle damage in their parking lots. It's bad for business when patrons can't relax and trust that their vehicle is safe while they're inside.
I can't speak for anyone else, but if I were hypothetically in a club and hypothetically plowed the bouncer's car, there would never be a police report because good form would dictate that I get out, aplogize my behind off, call my tow truck, my garage, get the kid a rental if i had to, buy him a drink, own up, and try to make it right. If I'm not a jerk, and I get out and handle my business with people, no bar owner in the world would call the police to report me for drinking inside their establishment. This would have been the easiest, fastest, and most sensible way to make this entire thing disappear without ever seeing an official report or even the light of day. And, by not being a d-bag and driving away, I would likely increase my friendships with the bouncer and club staff for making the effort to be decent and honestly fix my mistake. I would assure the venue that I wasn't a troublemaker and word wouldn't spread to other venues and clubs that I tear up parking lots and don't make good, even though I can afford it and a fancy lawyer, too.
Just my lowly .02. Hindsight being 20/20, etc. Better luck next time. A stitch in time saves nine, maybe, or an ounce of prevention saves a pound of cure, etc. Don't foul your own nest, maybe. Some folksy moral of the story, my mother's got a zillion of 'em. Here's one, "nothing new under the sun."
I agree, the defense probably wants this over without those big, epic discussions. Houston has a thriving, well-connected artistic community and people do talk.
My background and experience in radio grew out of live shows in local venues, beginning years ago in places with far less artistic expression and cohesion than Houston. I'm still following my first love to this day, and this is an awesome town for it. One thing I can tell you with 100% certainty is that be they near or far, bar, theatre, restaurant, and venue owners universally abhor vehicle damage in their parking lots. It's bad for business when patrons can't relax and trust that their vehicle is safe while they're inside.
I can't speak for anyone else, but if I were hypothetically in a club and hypothetically plowed the bouncer's car, there would never be a police report because good form would dictate that I get out, aplogize my behind off, call my tow truck, my garage, get the kid a rental if i had to, buy him a drink, own up, and try to make it right. If I'm not a jerk, and I get out and handle my business with people, no bar owner in the world would call the police to report me for drinking inside their establishment. This would have been the easiest, fastest, and most sensible way to make this entire thing disappear without ever seeing an official report or even the light of day. And, by not being a d-bag and driving away, I would likely increase my friendships with the bouncer and club staff for making the effort to be decent and honestly fix my mistake. I would assure the venue that I wasn't a troublemaker and word wouldn't spread to other venues and clubs that I tear up parking lots and don't make good, even though I can afford it and a fancy lawyer, too.
Just my lowly .02. Hindsight being 20/20, etc. Better luck next time. A stitch in time saves nine, maybe, or an ounce of prevention saves a pound of cure, etc. Don't foul your own nest, maybe. Some folksy moral of the story, my mother's got a zillion of 'em. Here's one, "nothing new under the sun."
BERRY OFFERS TO PAY FOR DAMAGES:
Houston radio host Michael Berry has offered $2,000 to pay for damages stemming from an alleged hit-and-run crash outside a night club last month. Berry's attorney sent the man whose car was damaged a check drawn from Berry's personal account and a letter explaining that the conservative talk show host is cooperating with a Houston police investigation. "I wanted to make you aware that from the very beginning of HPD's investigation, Mr. Berry made it known to HPD that if they were of the opinion that he caused damage to your car, Mr. Berry wanted to make it right with you," reads a letter from Dick DeGuerin.
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...y-offers-to-pay-for-damages-in-an-3356895.php
Houston radio host Michael Berry has offered $2,000 to pay for damages stemming from an alleged hit-and-run crash outside a night club last month. Berry's attorney sent the man whose car was damaged a check drawn from Berry's personal account and a letter explaining that the conservative talk show host is cooperating with a Houston police investigation. "I wanted to make you aware that from the very beginning of HPD's investigation, Mr. Berry made it known to HPD that if they were of the opinion that he caused damage to your car, Mr. Berry wanted to make it right with you," reads a letter from Dick DeGuerin.
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...y-offers-to-pay-for-damages-in-an-3356895.php
Just for what it's worth, to sue someone for slander you have to prove that what they said caused personal or financial loss. You can't sue someone just because they said insulting things about you.
I don't see how Berry can sue Josh Innis, unless Berry gets fired because of what Innis said about him. But even then he might have problems because he is what is defined in the law as a "public figure".
My layman's legal dictionary says "A public figure (such as a politician, celebrity, or business leader) cannot base a lawsuit on incorrect harmful statements unless there is proof that the writer or publisher acted with actual malice (knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard for the truth). The burden of proof in defamation actions is higher in the case of a public figure."
This means you can say pretty much anything you want to say about people who are "public figures."Radio announcers like Josh Innis are limited only by what their employer is willing to let them say.
I don't see how Berry can sue Josh Innis, unless Berry gets fired because of what Innis said about him. But even then he might have problems because he is what is defined in the law as a "public figure".
My layman's legal dictionary says "A public figure (such as a politician, celebrity, or business leader) cannot base a lawsuit on incorrect harmful statements unless there is proof that the writer or publisher acted with actual malice (knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard for the truth). The burden of proof in defamation actions is higher in the case of a public figure."
This means you can say pretty much anything you want to say about people who are "public figures."Radio announcers like Josh Innis are limited only by what their employer is willing to let them say.
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aunti-terrestrial
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Sending over the check and letter was the right legal and moral thing to do and a judge, if it ever got to one, would see restitution made. That's why ya pay the lawyer what ya do. On a personal note, I hope the young victim gets his face-to-face apology. He's the guy watching your car in the parking lot and he's the one you call if someone starts harassing you or getting too aggressive. His job is to put himself in harm's way so you don't have to worry while you are enjoying your evening out.
Either way, the check was the right thing to do.
Either way, the check was the right thing to do.
aunti-terrestrial said:
Agreed. As far as civil ramifications, Berry did the right thing. I also agree that is was morally and legally a smart move. On a personal note, I hope he addresses his personal issues (demons) before something else happens. On a professional note, his hypocrisy is duly noted...again.
Drucifer said:
Demons? Hypocrisy?
I have no idea why Berry was at a gay bar, and I don't care. I don't think it's too far fetched to think he might have been there having a drink with a friend. Are heterosexual people not allowed to have gay friends anymore?
I have gay friends. I have gay co-workers. I have gay friends who are also co-workers. Can't say I've ever been to a gay bar with any of them, but the invitation has been extended several times.
I think Berry at a gay bar is anything but hypocritical. One of his big themes is saying what you want to say and doing what you want to do, regardless of what others say about it. Obviously, he didn't want the blown out of proportion attention this thing has garnered because people on the loony left are trying to make hay, but if anyone had simply spotted him coming out of the gay bar otherwise and said something to him, his response probably would have been "Yeah? So what?"
radiogooroo said:
If that were the case, then why did he keep denying on air it was a gay bar?
"It's not a gay bar, it's a bar that happened to have some gay people inside." Um, that's called Pappacito's at happy hour.
There's no shame in going to see a drag show, and you don't have to be gay to find it entertaining, but if he's supposedly so honest and without shame "doing what you want to do regardless of what others say about it" then why not be honest about what TC's is?
The right thing to do was to stop and give your info. Short of doing that, he finally did the second best thing to do which was make it right with the bouncer later. It's the on-air meltdown in between that does him absolutely no favors.
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aunti-terrestrial
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I need clarification. Is it loony left to hope that those who destroy your property will hold themselves accountable and comply with the law without having to be tracked down? Is it loony left to expect police to adhere to standard investigative protocol, regardless of how well-connected the suspect?
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aunti-terrestrial
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I mean, can we all at least agree that there's a difference between "being spotted" leaving any establishment, and "being spotted allegedly returning 70 feet backward down the street until you duck-end the staff member's car, and also being spotted again twice more as you allegedly circled back and the witness/venue security took down your tag for a police report"? I hate to nitpick, but let's not forget there are crucial differences, here. I agree, I don't care if he was leaving a drag show or a church picnic. More power to him. Let's just not be disingenuous with our characterizations of the alleged event. This isn't merely "being spotted."
johndavis said:
No, TC's Showbar in Montrose never goes by the name "Pappacito's" not even at happy hour.
We were Voted #1 Drag Showbar in October 2010 in Houston by Out-Smart Magazine.
Our growth has been incredible since we opened in June 2009 and we will continue to grow.
We have ten (10) of the best ladies in Houston that work the stage for you; the customers
everyday and have a changing cast daily.
♦
We also have the friendliest bar staff in Montrose and the BEST drink specials during
the Longest Happy Hour in Montrose which is 8 am to 10 pm Monday thru Saturday & 10 am to 10 pm on Sunday
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Happy Hour Specials include: $1.50 Vodka, $3.25 Schnapps, $2.50 well drinks, $2.50 domestics, $3.00 frozens & $3.50 imports
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We also have seven (7) LCD flat screen tv's for your enjoyment, have bar top video game systems,
multi-cade arcade game and a pool table for your enjoyment daily
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TC's has also added Tricerasoft Karaoke System on Monday and Wednesday nights to add to our changing
line-up of shows that are held daily. So if you want to sing and watch a drag show we are the place to be
♦
TC's (formerly Cousin's) was born in the summer of 2009 and since it was purchased by its sole owner Tim Pugh; the bar was
immediately renovated. The bar was not only updated internally & externally, but the crowd has continued to grow with us
and we continue to make changes to the look of the bar to give you; our guests the best experience possible.
Since our opening our presence has been noticed in Montrose as the BEST place to see a show,
and we will continue to be Houston's Best Showbar for years to come.
radiogooroo said:
Sorry. It's not just people on the "loony left" as you so eloquently state but other "conservative talkers" have weighed in as well:
Chris Baker
"So; how would you like your CROW sir? Grilled, roasted, fried stir-fried or maybe LYING on a bed of rice? Not going down without a fight, unless you are lying. After you give an apology to the owner of the car then you can give one to Steven Dean and Channel 2. Lying blowhard oh yeah you can give another apology to your audience for duping them into believing you were a victim."
Chris Baker?
Is he still on the air somewhere? Ok, I'll amend my position to include the loony left and irrelevant right wingers desperate for attention.
Is he still on the air somewhere? Ok, I'll amend my position to include the loony left and irrelevant right wingers desperate for attention.
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