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Nash FM's Signal

yossefgershon said:
Let's not stereotype anyone since there are blacks,hispanics,asians and other non-REDNECKS who love country.

And at least one who who plays it: Kinky Friedman and The Texas Jewboys [sic]. That's the name of his band.
 
yossefgershon said:
Dear Jeffrey, My 19 yr old daughter and I are orthodox Jews and we largely listen to country---many of my daughter's friends listen to country on their I-pods/pads/laptops. Brooklyn and Staten Island are full of country fans who are religious Jews.Back in '76 I saw chassidim at a Merle/asleep at the wheel concert at MSG.In fact, I've seen quite a number of yarmulkes at country concerts over the years !!!! Let's not stereotype anyone since there are blacks, Hispanics, Asians and other non-REDNECKS who love country.
With all due respect, when it comes to marketing, the overall thought is that you go after "the low hanging fruit", as it were.

When marketing a product, it will attract from virtually every demographic, but it is the key group is where the most money is made.

In radio, it is where the most listeners are for that niche format. Yes, in the New York Market, Country is a niche format. Virtually, the rest of the Nation, it is a Strong, Popular Format.

There is no format more "American" than Country. R&R took from the Country, Blues, Gospel, Reggae, and Classical and all of those styles of music are found on the dial. The most popular of the meld is what becomes "POP" or CHR-based. In New York, as a result of the Market being so large, the melding of the formats is where the low hanging fruit is.

I'm not even sure what a Jewish-based music format would sound like, I doubt it would include what you would hear on Nash-FM. But the kids would be listening more mainstream, given their choice.

(My statement, in itself, is a form of "stereotype")

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I'd say Jazz is more "Amercian" than country.

Of course, not nearly as popular.
 
yossefgershon said:
Dear Jeffrey, My 19 yr old daughter and I are orthodox jews and we largely listen to country---many of my daughter's friends listen to country on their I-pods/pads/laptops.Brooklyn and staten island are full of country fans who are religious jews.Back in '76 I saw chassidim at a Merle/asleep at the wheel consert at MSG.In fact, I've seen quite a number of yarmulkes at country concerts over the years !!!! Let's not stereotype anyone since there are blacks,hispanics,asians and other non-REDNECKS who love country.
Stereotyping is ugly but frankly Cumulus didn't go out and factor in the NY Jewish population when studying the demographics of those most likely to listen to Nash FM. If some do that's an added bonus. What Cumulus is banking on is the white, non ethnic suburban male and female to pull in numbers for Nash which was the point of my post. Riverdale wouldn't be in their target area demographically speaking.
Furthermore and without trying to be argumentative, I've lived in both north and south Williamsburg for over 20 years and while there are bound to be a few around who like country music this is hardly an area where most have Brad Pasley on their IPods, Jews and hipsters alike.
 
WNTIRadio said:
I'd say Jazz is more "Amercian" than country.

Of course, not nearly as popular.
The origins if music has always been a great radio topic.

My thoughts are that Jazz had more French influenced beginnings.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
If Bluegrass is the predecessor of Country, that fiddle is certainly Irish.
 
ai4i said:
If Bluegrass is the predecessor of Country, that fiddle is certainly Irish.
No doubt about that. The Irish predates most other settlers. It would only stand to reason, they would bring their music with them.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
ai4i said:
If Bluegrass is the predecessor of Country, that fiddle is certainly Irish.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, outside the US, Ireland and Scotland are one of the few places where Country is fairly popular. Rest of Europe...not so much.
 
thataveragejoe said:
ai4i said:
If Bluegrass is the predecessor of Country, that fiddle is certainly Irish.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, outside the US, Ireland and Scotland are one of the few places where Country is fairly popular. Rest of Europe...not so much.
I'm not sure what that says for Ireland or Scotland, but it says a lot about Europe.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Greatly oversimplifying, when the "Scotch-Irish" immigrated to the hills in places like West Virgina, North Carolina, Kentucky and Tennessee, they brought their fiddles, and the stringy twangy sounds of Celtic music with them. And that all happened as early as the 1700s, and provided the roots for what we now know as Bluegrass and Country music.

Jazz has its roots in a mix of African rhythms, syncopations and improvisations that were mixed in with European style music that was played on European instruments by African-Americans. They didn't have a lot of pianos in Africa way back when.

Country music does sound like Celtic music from Ireland, and Scotland, and also sounds similar to Cape Breton's Celtic Music from Nova Scotia. (a personal favorite genre) So, the sound isn't unique to Country music.

On the other hand, jazz is a unique style of improvisational music that no-doubt was started in America. So, I have to agree with "WNTI's" post.

It should also be pointed out that jazz has been hugely popular in both East and Western Europe over the last century. Jazz clubs were famous in Paris and other European capitals in the 30s.

During the cold war, American DJ Wilis Conover was hardly known here, but his jazz show on The Voice of America pulled in millions, upon millions of listeners behind the Iron Curtain and kept them interested in American jazz.

Some of the best jazz I have ever heard in person, I heard years ago in small clubs in European cities like Amsterdam and Copenhagen, where I was one of only a couple of Americans in the place, and the musicians were all Europeans.

As one who had both Country and Jazz radio shows at different times, jazz is more uniquely American, and more popular around the world. Country is similar to other styles coming out of Celtic roots, and is mostly enjoyed by Americans and Canadians, although it too can be heard in other places. There are American Country Music clubs in Eastern Germany where the locals dress up like cowboys from Texas.
 
The FCC's website has been updated with a swap of WNSH and WRXP between New Jersey and Minnesota.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
Bob E. Nelson said:
yossefgershon said:
Let's not stereotype anyone since there are blacks,hispanics,asians and other non-REDNECKS who love country.

And at least one who who plays it: Kinky Friedman and The Texas Jewboys [sic]. That's the name of his band.
...and don't forget the sports team, "The Fighting Whities"

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I had a Panasonic AM/FM/CD "Walkman" with me in midtown on Wednesday. Regardless of the sensitivity setting (LOCAL/CITY and DX), I did not get any useable signal of 94.7 FM walking down 8th Avenue or outside of Penn Station/MSG. I distinctly heard WQHT-FM (Hot 97) as one of the stations blocking out 94.7 FM. Yes, I'm aware that WQHT-FM is very close by, transmitting from the ESB.
 
They are definitely having some kind of transmitter problem. I was listening at work yesterday on my portable FM receiver and the station kept dropping off the air completely. Same thing when I was driving home around 4pm. They were dropping off the air for about 5 seconds at a time.
 
ansky212 said:
They are definitely having some kind of transmitter problem. I was listening at work yesterday on my portable FM receiver and the station kept dropping off the air completely. Same thing when I was driving home around 4pm. They were dropping off the air for about 5 seconds at a time.

I wonder if Nash FM is going to try to get an on-channel booster in Manhattan like WFUV, WFMU and WNYU.

WFUV's is on W31st between 6th and 7th, WFMU is on 4 Times Square and WNYU is on West Houston southeast of Washington Square.
 
HHH said:
ansky212 said:
They are definitely having some kind of transmitter problem. I was listening at work yesterday on my portable FM receiver and the station kept dropping off the air completely. Same thing when I was driving home around 4pm. They were dropping off the air for about 5 seconds at a time.

I wonder if Nash FM is going to try to get an on-channel booster in Manhattan like WFUV, WFMU and WNYU.

WFUV's is on W31st between 6th and 7th, WFMU is on 4 Times Square and WNYU is on West Houston southeast of Washington Square.

Given the location of their current transmitter, I'm pretty sure a booster would create more problems than it would solve in the city.
 
The only place I could see a booster attempted would be to fill in directly in the shadow of Midtown--East side, FDR drive.

It would have to be HIGHLY directional. The downside is that as the booster signal equals the strength of the main stick, there's going to be even worse problems in Queens than now.

There's nowhere they can put the booster where the interference zones would be over a sparsely populated area. Therein lies the problem with a booster.
 
While I rarely sampled 94.7 WFME in Manhattan while it was on the air, I feel like the signal penetrated the city better. On the east side of Manhattan as well as the western Brooklyn WNSH loses it's HD signal and on some blocks of the east side of Manhattan there is actually dead air.
Perhaps someone more technical can explain this but does the HD signal cause the signal to be less strong?
 
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