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WALK and WBLI are not great sounding stations. Both have poorly adjusted Omnia 6's. WBLI is very bright and WALK has alot of distortion on voice and, now that they're playing Chirstmas music, it really comes out with horns and piano and sustained notes from female vocalists.

This is not a knock on the box... WBAB has one as well and they sound much better.
 
just uploaded a file.you tell me omnia 6 or dsp-extra.now we're having fun.
 
Goran,

In an earlierpost you mentioned Virgin Radio, based here in London.

IMHO there processing together with that of BBC Radio One's is still way off the mark when you compare it with Heart 106.2 who I do know are currently running an 8500 and have a very experienced engineer setting this station and the rest of the groups processing.

http://www.heart1062.co.uk/

This stations sound really shines compared to many others on the very busy dial here in the capital.

Phil
Transmitters 'R' Us
http://www.transmittersrus.com
 
wgliradio said:
WALK and WBLI are not great sounding stations. Both have poorly adjusted Omnia 6's. WBLI is very bright and WALK has alot of distortion on voice and, now that they're playing Chirstmas music, it really comes out with horns and piano and sustained notes from female vocalists.

This is not a knock on the box... WBAB has one as well and they sound much better.

I agree that WALK is nothing to write home about. I also agree that WBLI is very bright-sounding, but I think it works well for most of their programming. Most if not all of the AC they play on WBLI is absolutely horrid sounding.

I just thought it would be good (and fun) to post some of the stuff that's local-market to me so that those out of this market can hear some of the processing going on in this area...

-A
 
uploads?? that little o3 turbo(go turbo) sounds pretty good.still trying to figure out the file that is either the o6 or the dsp-extra.may be the best sounding one posted so far.sounds omnia to me.
 
oldiesstation said:
uploads?? that little o3 turbo(go turbo) sounds pretty good.still trying to figure out the file that is either the o6 or the dsp-extra.may be the best sounding one posted so far.sounds omnia to me.

I'm pretty sure it's Xtra.

I'd wish the bitrate of the file was higher...


Regards,
Goran Tomas
 
I also wish the bitrate was higher.

SURPRISE ME.

My guess is XTRA. I have no Idea of the sound of the DSP range, but it doesn't sound like an O6 to me.

I'm playing with an 8200 and 8300 right now. The 8200 on AC and 8300 on CHR and having the time of my life. I spent probably 4 weeks trying to get the sound I wanted out of an O6, and when I did it was something else. But the Orbans or so damn easy, and their sound is particularly polished.

Thanks Goran for your input
 
What about you guys pick three tracks and pick a format, i will run them through x, xtra and mini and upload them after they have been normalised to -3 dbfs and saved as a high bit rate mp3. Maybe Frank (Bob???) can do the same. Maybe you guys who work at stations will get a chance to run the tracks through your airchain and record it also. I think the only way we can do real comparisons is with the same source. What do you think?
It can be an itterative process as we try and outdo each other boxes! I sure would like to run the mini against the turbo and get your opinions. Xtra vs 06 should be fun too.

Sorry i have not been around much lately to post, been busy as hell. festive greetings to you all!

Regards
Scott
 
great idea,scott..you guys are too smart.my upload was the extra,taken right off air from the outputs of a teac receiver.sorry for the bit rate and i must confess it is a mp3 on air file, but we are moving to uncompress audio in jan 07.cheers to you all
 
much better as wav file.still IMHO the best sounding one so far on the list and i have to brag on the little turbo that could.good sounding o3t file.extra file has good brightness and nice bass.good job in setup
 
i thought the clip of 92.5 country was very good.thought the urban could use alittle more bass but still sounded great.jury is out on those french stations , but they were amusing with the programming.8200 sounded very boring to me.
 
Although this whole thing is very subjective depending on what we are all listening on, I still would like to see itemized opinions on all the clips that have been posted so far... Menotti I am curious what you thought of the clip from WRKI- I-95. I made a typo in the filename. Pete's running Aphex 2020 with the mkIII upgrade, not the mk II.

Just for the record, I monitor here at the studio using Mackie HR-824 monitors, and at home I monitor on 1969 JBL Athena/Lancer99's powered by a QSC PLX-3402.

Still yet to hear anything from the Honourable Mr. Foti on any of these clips...

-A
 
alan, thought the I95 sounded pretty good, the prod ,especially, voice was very good.song they played at the end (xmas) didn't do the clip much justice.years ago we set up processing using heatwave's grooveline (good ole disco).check that tune out,it has a little bit of everything in the spectrum.the aphex mark 3 is a good unit.i had one of the older Mark one's and it did not work good for CHR.Heck i was using it with a composite clipper and the competition was blowing my doors off.that's when i moved to the omnia 3t and now the 6.now i must confess that 8500 analog has raised my curiosity.and in all fairness to the dsp-extra, it's a great little box, running the ac preset for oldies station.i think what happened on some of the early dsp-x units, the presets were set using the 50 pre-emph and as you know that won't fly in the good ole USA, it caused some of the presets to be way over the top.the extra can sound orban or omnia depending on how you set it up.i think Mr Foti is concerned with the methodology used here and that merits concern, but hey we're having fun and the fact is these boxes can be set up for different taste.i remember when i built a AM years ago, i was tired and just asked the other eng to set up the processor.man,that was a huge mistake.signed on the next day, it sounded like a juke box.didn't take me long to tweak it, but to him it sounded great.SUBJECTIVETY..big issue in processing
 
Alan Fletcher said:
Still yet to hear anything from the Honourable Mr. Foti on any of these clips...

-A

Sorry, as stated before, I do not put faith in evaluating preemphasized FM audio via coded files. Additionally, we do not know what type of audio acquisition was used. There are too many variables that can easily cloud a fair evaluation.

-Frank Foti
 
Goran Tomas said:
Interesting clips from France... I wonder if that are IDT processors used on Paris stations?

Regards,
Goran Tomas

Yes, Radio FG use an IDT DBP 7+4, but Skyrock use an Omnia 6 and some secret stuff !

Seb.
 
During the measurements, we didn't used compressed sourcefiles, we only used the original source (vinyl and orginal CD's).

The data is being gathered as we speek, so i guess the final results will be published between christmas and newyearsday.
 
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