NBC 10 Breaks it

[areyouserious]

Tonights news coverage on 10 and 6 respectively was crippling to WPRO. Now the criminal felon Cianci has a man who warms his chair commiting FRAUD . What an Ethical place WPRO is. I' guess we have to wait for Dan Yorke to assault his producer Tony. You All may as well be criminals there .

Are you [EDIT] kidding me?

I could care less about you're unabashed hatred of the "Mayor". But when [EDIT] like you lump every one of us in that building as criminals, shove it. Most of us work hard doing what we do, and don't like this.

One person's actions DO NOT speak for EVERYONE'S actions.

As for your next arguement, which I'm sure will be "You should get out of there if you don't like it."
If you haven't noticed, the industry is failing, and if I thought my job security would be safer closer to i-95, I'd change jobs, sadly, that would be a terrible move.


[EDIT-profanity & inflammatory]

 

[Skynet74]

I agree that one bad apple shouldn't spoil the bunch. But unfortunately more and more apples from the bunch are looking spoiled lately. There will be a point where people are going to start reaching for a new fresh bunch of apples somewhere on Oxford St. (Get my drift?)

 

[S DANMAN]

The Result

So when all is said and done, what happens to DePetro? Citadel does nothing ....again? They tried that the first time and the advertiser backlash hurt them in the wallet so much they had to devulge the link to DePetro. Will throwing poor Kristin under the bus be enough to appease everybody? If they were going to fire John they would have done that yesterday. They once again hope this will blow over. Would you want JD doing endorsements for YOUR business?

 

[bobsims]

All I want to know is if those who want to hang a man's for his wife's foolish actions feel the same way about the corrupt mayor's brother/law partner's corruption conviction involving employee's of the corrupt mayor?

 

[Moonstruck]

IF it's really true that the Mrs really did this to help him without John knowing then WPRO might have a problem canning him as he could say it's without cause. Yes I know any station can find a way to let anyone go so I don't know the ins and outs of all this. That is IF.

The other scenario is that John fessed up to management and they had to remove him as much as possible from guilt and the story about his wife was concocted by management and DePetro himself to save a little face and justify keeping him. They do seem to be going out of their way to keep him but maybe the story hasn't ended yet and he'll be allowed to resign himself.

Then of course there's the scenario where all parties including WPRO knew his wife got these diaries and all were involved but I doubt that because of the stupidity involved in the way they were completed.

Why also isn't a decision coming from someplace on high outside of The Trail?

 

[Seekonk Sally]

How about this for a reason for the protection from corporate, John's best friend is Mitch Dolan, a former WPRO general manager who is now the President of ABC Radio which is owned by Citadel. When Mitch left Providence to go to New York he brought young inexperienced John with him. When John wanted St. Pierre's morning drive slot, Mitch delivered it with a bow wrapped around it. Now, perhaps he is throwing ice on the hot water J.D. is in. Why else would they fight so hard to keep him on the air? St. Pierres' ratings were much better when he hosted the morning show.

Sally

 

[Skynet74]

After hearing and taping John's full broadcast yesterday morning, I can honestly see why St. Pierre must of had better numbers. Depetro's show was four hours of totally bland radio. He was so good at HJJ, but he sucks so much now. Oh... how the mighty have fallen.

 

[someplacesomewhere]

How about this for a reason for the protection from corporate, John's best friend is Mitch Dolan, a former WPRO general manager who is now the President of ABC Radio which is owned by Citadel. When Mitch left Providence to go to New York he brought young inexperienced John with him. When John wanted St. Pierre's morning drive slot, Mitch delivered it with a bow wrapped around it. Now, perhaps he is throwing ice on the hot water J.D. is in. Why else would they fight so hard to keep him on the air? St. Pierres' ratings were much better when he hosted the morning show.

Sally

I doubt Mitch Dolan can do much here. Paul and Farid seem to think highly of each other, and this might be the last straw.

Skynet, I agree, atleast for the first 2 hours or so of the show, he doesn't take well to the news format. Normally he's a bit better in that last hour, but I bet he was nervous about talking calls.

 

[nhradiochild]

Here's a question no one seems to have asked yet:

When filling out these diaries (whomever did), did they think it was going to make that big a difference? Or did they just expect a slight bump in the numbers? Might have been the foresight they needed in order to judge what would have made for what they were shooting for. I think it's quite possible that someone thought that the outcome wouldn't be nearly as noticeable as it was.

 

[Radknowski]

When filling out these diaries (whomever did), did they think it was going to make that big a difference? Or did they just expect a slight bump in the numbers? Might have been the foresight they needed in order to judge what would have made for what they were shooting for. I think it's quite possible that someone thought that the outcome wouldn't be nearly as noticeable as it was.

Then they're stupid. As noted by Element9, six diaries in one demographic cell, particularly 18-34, especially for a news-talk radio station, all from the same household is like sending up a flare that say "review these diaries."

 

[Power Of Radio]

Maybe Citadel is going to wait until JD's contract expires. Who knows? But if this happened to a jock without a
contract or "a name". I'm sure Citadel would of terminated his/her employment in under 10 minutes.

 

[someplacesomewhere]

Here's a question no one seems to have asked yet:

When filling out these diaries (whomever did), did they think it was going to make that big a difference? Or did they just expect a slight bump in the numbers? Might have been the foresight they needed in order to judge what would have made for what they were shooting for. I think it's quite possible that someone thought that the outcome wouldn't be nearly as noticeable as it was.

That really doesn't matter. Cheating was done, whether they did so expecting less of a reaction or not. I'm all for sticking up for someone when there isn't proof they did it, but now, in this case, its not right.

 

[luvcoors]

The legal team is at work to insure everything's in order in all aspects based on whether he's dumped Monday or in another week. The defense of "I didn't know what my wife was doing and I never saw the diaries" is laughable at best. He's been in the game too long and they've been married long enough to know what the rules are.

In 15 years of this...anyone that becomes more than an acquaintance to me, gets the :30 speech about "you don't tell me if Arbitron calls you or sends you a diary until after the fact (the ratings period is LONG over)." I explain why and never have had anyone not be cool with it. I've had exactly 2 of said friends tell me after the fact. 1 got called, but never was sent a diary. The second got called, got a diary, but it was sent to her house while she was on vacation for 2 weeks during a summer book.

I'm also carefully assuming that other areas of this debacle are being investigated thoroughly to insure that no one else knew about this until it was discovered by Arbitron. I'm also certain that others in the building within upper mgmt. are having their "closets" checked to make sure there's nothing "hidden", because if there is...now's the time to address it. I'm also sure the "if there's another big time incident here in Providence, we'll clean house" speech will be given as well.

 

[dittohead1]

John McCain doesn't even know how many HOUSES his wife owns, so it's possible someone wouldn't know about some diary dirty tricks.

 

[Skynet74]

John McCain doesn't even know how many HOUSES his wife owns, so it's possible someone wouldn't know about some diary dirty tricks.

Possible... but not likely. Depetro dodged the questions right from the start. As soon as ABC6 cornered him in the parking lot and he starting mumbling about vacation... it became clearly obvious he knew what was going on. A person who didn't know anything would have just said so. But John couldn't even bring himself to deny anything. All he could do was fumble for his car keys as he tried to redirect the conversation towards other things. That is not the behavior of an innocent man.

In any event...... there is only one person who really matters in the end. He's the person at Citadel who will be placing the phone call to WPRO and telling them to not let Depetro back in the building.

 

[BobRoss]

When filling out these diaries (whomever did), did they think it was going to make that big a difference? Or did they just expect a slight bump in the numbers?

I agree with the others who've said cheating is cheating, no matter what the impact, large or small. Whenever Arbitron calls random numbers to find potential diarykeepers, the very first question they ask is whether you or anyone in the household works in the media. It's a pretty simple yes/no question. And even though DiPetro's wife doesn't work in media herself, she should have answered yes. If she was somehow suspicious and said "no" in case it might have been a stalker or something... she still would have had a few more chances during the phone interview to tell Arbitron she made a mistake and hang up, rather than agreeing to accept the diary mailing. Even when the diaries arrived, she could have simply thrown them away or returned them blank. Plenty of chances to prevent this disaster, and she chose not to. Either there's a serious rift in their marriage, or he approved of the entire thing. Or she's just a completely clueless moron and he should toss her out on the street for potentially ruining his career.

However, you do have a good point. If it only took 6 diaries to give one station a big bump, it makes you wonder about Arbitron sample sizes. Obviously the PPM will do a better job at "honestly" recording what people really listen to (whether to avoid cheating or just plain ol' inaccurate diarykeeper memories), but it still sucks if sample sizes are so small that it takes just SIX people to completely screw things up.

Providence is the #39-ranked market in the country, with a metro 12+ population of 1,376,500, according to Arbitron. Obviously any "false" reporting will skew the data, but there's no way false reporting from SIX people should be able to have such a large impact in such a large market. You might expect a 6-diary anomaly to shake things up in a 150+ market, but it shouldn't be happening in a top-50 market.

 

[wknd92]

John, even for you, that is the stupidest thing you've said in a long time...you are better than that (and even I hate to admit that). This affects you in no way or fashion, so why the hell make an innane statement like that....

Please don't tell me that you didn't realize I was joking. Comon..... Now I know you are smarter than that!
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John even in jest, not funny.....