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NBC Considers Cutting Back Programming Hours in Prime Time

The networks have been using the 10PM hour for a lot of its news programming, such as 20/20 or Dateline.
back in the day, also things like Primetime Live or whatever that other ABC magazine was, 48 Hours (still kicking around, I think), 60 Minutes 2, and probably others. That use of the last hour has a decently long history.

The bigger problem with Leno was the execution vs the idea. Keeping the guy who supposedly stepped aside doing the exact same show but with a new name just made no sense.
 
KHNL was NEVER a Fox affiliate. Don't believe me?? Look it up on Wikipedia
As Frank and I often have to do, I'll repeat: "Wikipedia is not usually right about broadcast station operations and history." It's a good starting place, but not an authoritative source for broadcast history.
 
KHNL was NEVER a Fox affiliate. Don't believe me?? Look it up on Wikipedia
Dear God in Heaven please learn to READ a Wikipedia article before attempting to share it when it CLEARLY states KHNL was a Fox affiliate. KHON was always the historically NBC affiliate until when the mid 90s and they swapped with Fox. Don’t believe me I have actual TV Guides from that time to prove to ya Mr Pat Cook!

It’s about capturing the eyeballs when they want to watch you, not expecting people to watch the full block.

True, but outside of major markets after the first few minutes the rest of the newscasts for so many mid sized markets is filled with fluff pieces and sharing sordid stories from some faraway sister station. Those 55+ and older do watch the entire block.
 
I live in Honolulu. It was the first affiliate of Fox until SF broadcasting (KHON’s former owner) took the affiliation in 1995.
It’s funny of 20+ years of Pat Cook/Jeeper One acting as absolute authority on so many things and drive so many members away over him
Being mr always right is hilarious at the same time for him to be so WRONG!
 
It’s funny of 20+ years of Pat Cook/Jeeper One acting as absolute authority on so many things and drive so many members away over him
Being mr always right is hilarious at the same time for him to be so WRONG!

The I told you so trick always works.
 
Leno’s ratings absolutely plummeted after about the first couple weeks. It was a disaster for all involved and definitely not a smart move for the network.
Replacing 5 shows with 1 show was a smart move, and you won't convince me otherwise. The ratings for Leno in the first week were out of this world fantastic, and of course they were going to fall from there.

Back to the current topic at hand, it’ll be interesting to see if this gives either CBS and/or ABC similar ideas in the near future. Lord knows ABC has struggled with 10PM/9PM programming for quite a few years now.
Yes. I'm sure the other networks have been considering such moves, before yesterday's leak.
 

I know for NBC Owned stations they can have a 10 pm Newscast by rebroadcasting ones from their Streaming news feed from Peacock or Roku Channel.

WRAL-TV the Capital owned NBC affiliate in Raleigh, NC just made WRAL News Streaming feed.

I am not sure how Gray, Nexstar, Hearst, Tegna, Scripps, Allen Media, Graham Media, Cox Media, Sinclair will respond to the changes yet if it's approved.


WPSD-TV the NBC affiliate in Paducah, Kentucky is one of a rare NBC affiliates where the owner only owns 1 TV station.

The other is KNBN.

I am not so sure too about KNBN and WPSD would do if NBC were to cut hours. Yes this is one of these rare 1 station operations. Note WPSD is owned by a group that manages newspapers. KNBN is owned by a local investor
 
Back to the current topic at hand, it’ll be interesting to see if this gives either CBS and/or ABC similar ideas in the near future. Lord knows ABC has struggled with 10PM/9PM programming for quite a few years now.

It won't shock me if CBS and ABC did the same too. I know during NBA games ABC has been pushing to buy the Disney Bundle (Hulu, ESPN+ and Disney+) also Hulu only and Disney+ shows promos have been seen between segments on local ABC O&O newscasts and ABC News segments.

CBS same for Paramount+ app.
 
It won't shock me if CBS and ABC did the same too. I know during NBA games ABC has been pushing to buy the Disney Bundle (Hulu, ESPN+ and Disney+) also Hulu only and Disney+ shows promos have been seen between segments on local ABC O&O newscasts and ABC News segments.

CBS same for Paramount+ app.
We'll encourage everyone to bypass their local affiliates for the good stuff.
 
you won't convince me otherwise.

No worries I figured the sky in your world definitely wasn’t blue but then again some people still believe in Santa.
 
In Des Moines WHO 13 aired a 9pm newscast on the new network Pax. That lasted for a few years then they replaced the news with what was airing on Pax.
Kdsm 17 was the first network affiliate aside from the top 3 that premiered a 9pm newscast which aired for 30 minute in March 2001. After awhile Fox 17 News at 9pm was renamed Fox News at 9 as it also aired on KFXA 28. In 2009, WHO began airing their News on kdsm 17 under the name WHO 13 News at 9 on Fox 17 and continues to air it today under a 1 hour newscast during the week and a half hour on weekends.

KCCI 8 airs their 9pm News on 8.2 a Me-TV affiliate.

WOI 5 recently began airing a 9pm newscast last year on KCWI 23. But Watching this newscast in the corner it says previously recorded meaning its a repeat of the news at 6pm on WOI or they just taped it earlier just for the network to air it at 9.

If nbc gets rid of the last hour and airs news at 9pm what would they do for KDSM 17. Would they air News at the same time from both channel 13 or would channel 17 have to maybe get their own news team.
 
We'll encourage everyone to bypass their local affiliates for the good stuff.
However if the local affiliate is an O&O then it is going to be on the respective app case and point NBC and Telemundo affiliates managed by Comcast inc will be inside the Peacock app. Or CBS and CW affiliates managed by Paramount inc would be inside either the CBS News app or the Paramount+ app. Or Disney managed ABC affiliates will be inside Hulu app.
 
However if the local affiliate is an O&O then it is going to be on the respective app case and point NBC and Telemundo affiliates managed by Comcast inc will be inside the Peacock app. Or CBS and CW affiliates managed by Paramount inc would be inside either the CBS News app or the Paramount+ app. Or Disney managed ABC affiliates will be inside Hulu app.
But are all the entertainment programs streamed on the app, especially outside the local coverage area?
 
If NBC-TV does give back the 10-11 P.M. (Eastern /Pacific) hour to local stations and reclaims the 11-11:30 P.M. (Eastern/Pacific) half-hour to move up their late night programming, I think ABC and CBS affiliates will likewise demand that their respective networks follow suit.

Here's why I think this could happen:

Except in the smallest markets, expanding late evening local newscasts to an hour will only result in a minimal increase in costs and perhaps can be done without adding any staff. And with an hour instead of a half-hour, local stations would have more late evening local news commercial spots available to sell. Finally, with late local news being an hour earlier, more people would be awake to watch, and hence, more money could be charged per spot.

For local stations, it's pure profit.

And for NBC (or ABC or CBS if they follow suit), with fewer prime time commercial spots, they could charge more per spot. Combine that with vastly reduced prime time program expenditures, it means more money per spot.

If NBC (or ABC and CBS for that matter) likewise have their local stations run late news at 10 and start late-night network programs at 11, affiliates of the traditional "big three" that heretofore have produced local 10 P.M. newscasts on Fox, CW, or My Network TV could move those newscasts to 11. And some Fox, CW or My Network TV affiliates that produce their own local 10 P.M. newscasts could move them to 11 if they're worried about the new competition.

The soon-to-start 2022/23 prime time TV season may be the last when any broadcast network programs the 10-11 P.M. (Eastern/Pacific) hour, apart from some occasional sports or specials.

Like the old saying goes, "It's All About The Benjamins".
 
Way back when, NBC-TV actually did run network programming at 11 P.M. Eastern on a regular basis.

NBC's first late-night network series, "Broadway Open House" (with Jerry Lester and Morey Amsterdam as alternating hosts) aired from 11 P.M. to 12 Midnight Eastern (10-11 Central) in 1950 and 1951. This was before the transcontinental network lines were opened in the fall of 1951, so if it aired at all in the Southeast or the West, it would have been via kinescope recording.

Some NBC affiliates aired late evening local news at 12 Midnight Eastern/11 Central (including then-NBC affiliate WBZ-4 here in Boston), while others may have simply signed off once the show was over for the night.

Once "Broadway Open House" was cancelled, NBC returned the hour to affiliates. When the first version of "The Tonight Show" began in 1954, it didn't start at 11 P.M. ET/PT, but at either 11:15 or 11:30 ET/PT, depending on the affiliate.

Except for some sports or special events, NBC-TV has not regularly programmed the 11-11:15 P.M. ET/PT quarter hour since 1951 nor the 11:15-11:30 P.M. ET/PT quarter hour since 1967.
 
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It’s funny of 20+ years of Pat Cook/Jeeper One acting as absolute authority on so many things and drive so many members away over him
Being mr always right is hilarious at the same time for him to be so WRONG!
And his way of EMPHASIZING his WRONG POINTS by putting them in BIG CAPITAL LETTERS only adds to the fun!
 
Once the network connection was established south of Richmond, "Broadway Open House" aired live in
Atlanta, Charlotte, Greensboro, and Jacksonville. (My dad was in high school in Greensboro in 1950-51 and
he has told me about watching the show.) It was carried either live or on kine in
every market that had a television station at the time.

ABC's show with Les Crane and its successor, "Nightlife," in 1964-65 also started at 11:15 but many stations didn't join the network until 11:30, same situation as NBC with Carson. When Joey Bishop's show debuted in 1967 it started at 11:30 ("The Tonight Show" had dropped the 11:15-11:30 segment about three months before Bishop's show debuted.)

And you know perfectly well that if NBC goes through with the plan to give back 10/9 and it works,
ABC and CBS won't be far behind. Given that Colbert, Fallon, and Kimmel air at 10:35 Central and Mountain,
I don't know why they wouldn't do just as well in the Eastern and Pacific time zones at 10:35.
 
KCWE has a Newscast at 9pm produced by KMBC. WDAF does a Newscast at 9pm/10pm and could be getting the CW. KSMOTV has My Network TV programming at 9pm and at 7pm instead Locker Room show then 7:30pm repeat Newscast.
 
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