OCradiodude said:
No. It appears to apply to Agencies with AFTRA agreements for multi-station use, residuals, etc.
Not that I know of. This is an agency issue, negotiated with agencies. The agencies just say to the media, "don't stream my spots."
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No. It appears to apply to Agencies with AFTRA agreements for multi-station use, residuals, etc.
Not that I know of. This is an agency issue, negotiated with agencies. The agencies just say to the media, "don't stream my spots."
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raydioaydio
Guest
Midday jock hired
From All Access:
Julie Slater Lands Middays At KSWD
BONNEVILLE AAA KSWD (100.3FM THE SOUND)/LOS ANGELES fills its midday slot with JULIE SLATER, effective AUGUST 11th.
SLATER most recently has been at SIRIUS as an on-air reporter for VARIETY MAGAZINE for the past couple years. She was a staple at CBS Rocker WXRK (92.3 K-ROCK)/NEW YORK for 10 years.
KSWD PD DAVE BEASING said, "Lots of people told us that JULIE belongs on a station for music lovers like The Sound, including some guy named HOWARD STERN. JULIE was beloved by many NEW YORKERS listening at work. Now she’ll develop a friendship with Rock fans in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, too."
If Beasing is impressed because Howard Stern thinks she belongs at the Sound, he's too easily impressed. I'm very sure that he's the last people fans of The Sound would turn to for advice on who belongs on the air at that station.
Another bad hire.
If the station fails, I have two reasons: too much over-played classic rock, and the wrong air talent!
Too bad the David Eduardo's of the world will just blame the format, instead of a poorly-programmed radio station.
From All Access:
Julie Slater Lands Middays At KSWD
BONNEVILLE AAA KSWD (100.3FM THE SOUND)/LOS ANGELES fills its midday slot with JULIE SLATER, effective AUGUST 11th.
SLATER most recently has been at SIRIUS as an on-air reporter for VARIETY MAGAZINE for the past couple years. She was a staple at CBS Rocker WXRK (92.3 K-ROCK)/NEW YORK for 10 years.
KSWD PD DAVE BEASING said, "Lots of people told us that JULIE belongs on a station for music lovers like The Sound, including some guy named HOWARD STERN. JULIE was beloved by many NEW YORKERS listening at work. Now she’ll develop a friendship with Rock fans in SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, too."
If Beasing is impressed because Howard Stern thinks she belongs at the Sound, he's too easily impressed. I'm very sure that he's the last people fans of The Sound would turn to for advice on who belongs on the air at that station.
Another bad hire.
If the station fails, I have two reasons: too much over-played classic rock, and the wrong air talent!
Too bad the David Eduardo's of the world will just blame the format, instead of a poorly-programmed radio station.
Re: Midday jock hired
So it looks like the shifts are all filled assuming there's no overnight DJ.
6 - 10 am Larry Morgan
10 am - 3 pm Julie Slater
3 - 8 pm Andy Chanley
8 pm - mid Mike Powers
Weekends:
Mimi Chen Sat 6 - 10 am; Sun 8 am - 1 pm
Dred Scott Sat and Sun times I'm not sure about
I definitely agree about the over-played classic rock tracks... They're KLOS-Lite!!
Not sure what impact, if any, the air talent will really have on the listeners since it's such a music-driven format...The DJs are just about an after-thought. My guess is that Dave Beasing added Howard's name in there for credibilty reasons only. Really who cares one way or another. As a regular listener, I sure don't and I was never a Howard Stern fan. But his "endorsement" is a non event.
raydioaydio said:
So it looks like the shifts are all filled assuming there's no overnight DJ.
6 - 10 am Larry Morgan
10 am - 3 pm Julie Slater
3 - 8 pm Andy Chanley
8 pm - mid Mike Powers
Weekends:
Mimi Chen Sat 6 - 10 am; Sun 8 am - 1 pm
Dred Scott Sat and Sun times I'm not sure about
I definitely agree about the over-played classic rock tracks... They're KLOS-Lite!!
Not sure what impact, if any, the air talent will really have on the listeners since it's such a music-driven format...The DJs are just about an after-thought. My guess is that Dave Beasing added Howard's name in there for credibilty reasons only. Really who cares one way or another. As a regular listener, I sure don't and I was never a Howard Stern fan. But his "endorsement" is a non event.
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Even KRTH, which gives the illusion of a deeper playlist, is relatively tight,
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Is this some kind of a joke? KRTH has one of the most repetitive playlists ONNN EARRRTTHH. "Relatively tight" is quite the understatement.
JACK is the only major station with a big playlist in LA.
Even KRTH, which gives the illusion of a deeper playlist, is relatively tight,
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Is this some kind of a joke? KRTH has one of the most repetitive playlists ONNN EARRRTTHH. "Relatively tight" is quite the understatement.
JACK is the only major station with a big playlist in LA.
scooty430 said:
Don't say "only major" unless you know that for a fact.
KRCD, 6th in the last Diary book in 25-54, has a larger library than Jack (12th) or KRTH (13th) or even KROQ (8th).
But KIIS, with a very small library, is #5.
As I have said over and over, the listeners themselves set the library size. KIIS plays fewer songs because that is all their listeners give good test scores too. KRCD plays more because its listeners give favorable opinions on more songs.
Even KRTH, which gives the illusion of a deeper playlist, is relatively tight,
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Is this some kind of a joke? KRTH has one of the most repetitive playlists ONNN EARRRTTHH. "Relatively tight" is quite the understatement.
JACK is the only major station with a big playlist in LA.
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No joke scooty, never said KRTH wasn't repetitive, and relatively tight IS tight and that always translates to repetitive. But KRTH is good at hiding it most of the time with specialty weekends and by dropping in a gem or two to mix it up a little. As for Jack, having a deep playlist is nice, but if it's not the music you want to hear it doesn't matter and I hear a lot of burned tunes on Jack.
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jedimaster
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I am disappointed with the Sound. They had a chance to be a station for the new millenium and they blew it. Instead, it's all old tired music and really bad air talent choices. It's all programmed by a white guy who naturally thinks that white men should have all the control, that's why they hired nothing but white people for the whole day. And guess what I predict - they will offer the overnights to some minority because they feel minority people should just be a "support" person. Guess they think that minority people have it so easy to get a job...
These white bread white stations - so typical and boring. They should look at how wonderfully integrated The Wave is and take some notes. Los Angeles doesn't have that many white people, but all the white managers still program like it does.
These white bread white stations - so typical and boring. They should look at how wonderfully integrated The Wave is and take some notes. Los Angeles doesn't have that many white people, but all the white managers still program like it does.
jedimaster said:
Woah, playing the race card? I don't see it, but I'll bite. So are there a lot of AAA jocks, PD's and music directors that aren't white? We have no idea if there were any non-white people who even applied for jobs at the Sound, did you? Sorry but I think you're way off. I’ll bet they have a much more multi-ethnic staff behind the scenes. If you want to be disappointed with some one, try Radio One. They couldn't take a successful station and keep it that way, ultimately losing money and selling for a lot less than they paid for it. Race has nothing to do with it. That's like saying that KJLH is racist because they have a predominantly black staff.
Re: Midday jock hired
Well...hmmmm KFOG in San Francisco plays quite a bit of familiar classic rock in a quite arguably sophisticated market....The Bay Area.
Stop picking on David...He uses logic in is arguments. Do the math....If you look at the demographics in LA...AAA would be a tough format.
Perhaps when you look at overall volume and not market share, there may be a chance. What I find strange is that of all of the formats to pick for a stand alone facility is AAA. One thing's for sure. It takes a long time to grow an audience for this format and Bonneville, while conservative, is not beholden to Wall Street. They can afford to sit on this for a while.
raydioaydio said:
Well...hmmmm KFOG in San Francisco plays quite a bit of familiar classic rock in a quite arguably sophisticated market....The Bay Area.
Stop picking on David...He uses logic in is arguments. Do the math....If you look at the demographics in LA...AAA would be a tough format.
Perhaps when you look at overall volume and not market share, there may be a chance. What I find strange is that of all of the formats to pick for a stand alone facility is AAA. One thing's for sure. It takes a long time to grow an audience for this format and Bonneville, while conservative, is not beholden to Wall Street. They can afford to sit on this for a while.
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OCradiodude
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DavidEduardo said:
Ah! So it's an agency issue. Finally this makes sense. Thanks David.
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Indielover
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goriajk said:
I remember Julie Slater well from middays at 92.3 K-Rock in the '90's, following Howard each day...she is a good jock and I always enjoyed listening to her....however I am a bit suprised of their choice of her for a AAA. I was not familiar with Mimi Chen prior to the sound, but have enjoyed her on the sound, definitely a natural for AAA..she would have been a better choice, however I look forward to hearing Julie and am sure she'll do fine.
calguy said:
Not only a good bet but its true as I have met some of those behind the scenes folks! I also want to point out that the Music Director and the Promotions Director are both women.
goriajk said:
The only thing I can think of, Joe, is that they wanted to have a little distance from any regular air talent from the previous versions of L.A. AAA and since Andy Chanley was a regular at Channel 103.1, maybe they thought Mimi would be one too many, just a guess.
Re: Midday jock hired
KFOG does play some classic rock tracks as does WXPK 107.1 The Peak as does WXRT and we can even throw in WRXP tho' they're not really a traditional (if that word can even be applied anymore to the format) AAA station. In smaller markets, there might be less classic rock product on AAA formats than in the big markets.
Having said that, The Sound still plays wayyyyy too much of the genre and not enough of those acts and songs, the few that exist, that are "owned" by the AAA format. For example, this morning they played Santana at 6:07, another Santana at exactly one hour later at 7:07, and a third Carlos cut in the 11 am hour. Almost every single hour you will hear on 100.3 at least one if not two or even three of these artists: Police, Cars, Talking Heads, Fleetwood Mac, Tom Petty, The Eagles, John Mellencamp, Stones, The Who, U2, Santana to give you a few examples. I don't see it being received real well judging by the comments made in the Village Forum of The Sound. But that's just those who really give a damn I guess
I like the part about not beholden, I didn't consider that. It really does look like they are going to stick it out for a long time.
Michael Rivers Kramer said:
KFOG does play some classic rock tracks as does WXPK 107.1 The Peak as does WXRT and we can even throw in WRXP tho' they're not really a traditional (if that word can even be applied anymore to the format) AAA station. In smaller markets, there might be less classic rock product on AAA formats than in the big markets.
Having said that, The Sound still plays wayyyyy too much of the genre and not enough of those acts and songs, the few that exist, that are "owned" by the AAA format. For example, this morning they played Santana at 6:07, another Santana at exactly one hour later at 7:07, and a third Carlos cut in the 11 am hour. Almost every single hour you will hear on 100.3 at least one if not two or even three of these artists: Police, Cars, Talking Heads, Fleetwood Mac, Tom Petty, The Eagles, John Mellencamp, Stones, The Who, U2, Santana to give you a few examples. I don't see it being received real well judging by the comments made in the Village Forum of The Sound. But that's just those who really give a damn I guess
I like the part about not beholden, I didn't consider that. It really does look like they are going to stick it out for a long time.
some comments from The Sound's Forum
Here's a few comments I made recently over there....
It's a Love / Dislike relationship some of the listeners have with The Sound. I can't say "Love/Hate" because if you hate the station's format you won't stay around. I think we are all passionate and vocal here. I'd like to think we are "representing" many out there who don't have the time to post here or are not as passionate as we are. But I feel that we ARE a microcosm of The Sound's Listeners. I myself have been a vocal critic of the station but I also have mentioned many many artists and songs that I feel the audience would enjoy. Some of my suggestions HAVE been played, though I don't know, obviously, if that's a coincidence or not. I don't think they'll pull the plug here on this Forum or on the station.
They have along way to go and I do mean long way. They still haven't filled all the shifts yet, (made before they hired Julie Slater) Larry Morgan hasn't cracked open the morning drive mic yet, the website will eventually be revised. We are witnessing a work in progress and I give the highest props and kudos to The Sound's management team for providing a forum as well as an opportunity to personally meet the people who make it happen. How many new radio stations ever do that?
So I am still optomistic about the station's future and I am still with them --- most of the time as they keep reeling me in by playing Ozomatli, Meat Puppets, Dandy Warhols, Social Distrortion, Talk Talk, Screaming Trees, Marshall Crenshaw, even noticed they played "Love to Change the World"-10 Years After and also "Locomotive Breath" "Thick as a Brick"-Jethro Tull which I would say those last three songs are not too burned out. (PS "Farm on the Freeway"-Tull please play!!) Add to that new artists like Back Door Slam, Duke Spirit, Delta Spirit ("Trashcan"), Panderers, and Airborne Toxic Event and that's a nice mix of artists/genres all under the Rock Roof. So while that's not criticism it IS appreciation for what they ARE doing right and they need to hear that too!
Are they KLOS-Lite? I dunno they do play too much shared songs despite the good stuff I mentioned above. BTW Andy just played John Hiatt a few songs ago!! I wonder if your post had anything to do with that? [a poster complained that they played a few Hiatt songs for a week and then stopped playing him] Anyway the question on my mind is have they decided what their identity is yet? Maybe they don't know yet. Play SOME older rock songs is fine to give some familiarity to the station for a new listener who samples them. I believe that many listeners who no longer listen to terrestrial radio (i.e. satellite radio listeners, Internet radio listeners, and iPod listeners) have come back or will come back IF the station doesn't shoot itself in the foot by being KLOS-Lite and as a result turn off those potential fans of The Sound and drive them away. Just something to consider.
I Love Sushi and I Love rack of Lamb... When I'm in the mood for great sushi I go to a great place in Dana Point. When I am in the mood for a good rack of lamb, I go to a neighborhood bistro who cook it just right with all the fixins'. If I want great Italian food, I don't think of going to the sushi place, right?? The Kinsley Report (a poster) referenced Cheap Trick below and that reminded me, most of us at least liked that band, they did a great cover of Don't Be Cruel and most us like and liked The Eagles, the Stones, Supertramp, Led Zep and such. If we need a fix of those groups and nothing new, we know where to go to hear their old songs. If we want a dose of Airborne Toxic Event, Beck, Counting Crows, Bob Dylan, The Cure, or R.E.M. but all on one station we know we can find them all at 100.3. Just so long as we don't overdose on the classic rock stuff because if want to pig out on those classic rock acts and just those artists we know where to go. We just don't expect to overdose on them at The Sound.
Well another one lost [this post made after a regular poster was giving up on the station...He did come back though]
as I listen to Jude Cole's "Baby It's Tonight" thru imeem.com, The Kinsley Report certainly is a sobering one. Which way WILL The Sound go?? Towards Corporate safeness or Blaze a New Trail where few Radio Stations have gone before. Yes, 137 million is a big big investment, and more money has been spent on everything else with the income coming from some of the advertisers that ad agencies provide. I wish I had a crystal ball to predict what will be on 100.3 two years from today. Does The Sound want to keep people like Mr Kinsley, or attract those that want Doobie Brothers, Santana, Springsteen, Eagles, Pink Floyd, Doors, Queen (!!), CSN&Y, The Kinks, Dire Straits, Allman Brothers, Grateful Dead, Genesis (the Phil Collins version), Supertramp, David Bowie, Tom Petty, John Mellencamp, U2, Jackson Browne, Fleetwood Mac, Bad Company, Heart, Bob Marley, Steve Miller Band, Pretenders, Yes, Big Country and Their One Big Hit, Police, Cars, Talking Heads, The Who, Rolling Stones, etc etc. And then there's the KROQ/KYSR stuff from The Cure, Jane's Addiction, INXS, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Psychedelic Furs, Simple Minds, etc etc with a few newer songs by true AAA acts in there. So mostly artists easily heard on other LA area radio stations. Dare to be different or The Safe Side?
Just to clarify --- Almost all those artists I mentioned are good artists and have a volume of work to be admired. I like something or most everything from them all. Yes play those artists and songs but please minimize the repetition of the SAME songs by the SAME artists. There is so much good music out there over the years that The Sound is STILL not playing. Here is a short list of just a few: Love Sick - Bob Dylan; Things Have Changed - Dylan; Do You Realize?-Flaming Lips; Goodbye Moon - Shivaree; Chemistry - Semisonic; Birmingham - Amanda Marshall; King of the Hill - Roger McGuinn; Sequestered in Memphis - The Hold Steady (new song); Eye of Fatima Part 1 - Camper van Beethoven; Free To Go - Folk Implosion; High Up On the Hook - Alice Russell; Lack of Water - The Why Store; He's Frank - Brighton Port Authority (Iggy Pop on vocals); Hello Hello - Sopwith Camel (real oldie from 1967); Lawyers in Love - Jackson Browne; Hell - Squirrel Nut Zippers; Mad About You - Hooverphonic; Early To Bed - Morphine; Burning in the Sun - Blue Merle; Something's Always Wrong - Toad the Wet Sprocket; Smoke and Ashes - Tracy Chapman; If I Didn't Love You - Squeeze; Speed of Life - Jude Cole; Requiem For a Dying Song - Flogging Molly (recent hit); Caught by the River - The Doves; My Culture - Giant Leap; Indigo Eyes - Peter Murphy; Legend of the Mind - Moody Blues; Congo Square - Sonny Landreth; Bitter - Jill Sobule; I Kissed a Girl - Jill Sobule; Everything Falls Apart - Dog's Eye View; All You Zombies - Hooters; Hot in the City - Billy Idol; Have Love Will Travel - Black Keys; Tough - Fabulous Thunderbirds; The Passenger - Iggy Pop; Nature Boy - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds; Last Cigarette - Dramarama; Shelter - Lone Justice; Something to Talk nAbout - Badly Drawn Boy; Fear of Falling - The Badlees; .... That's enough for now
SuperRadioFan
Here's a few comments I made recently over there....
It's a Love / Dislike relationship some of the listeners have with The Sound. I can't say "Love/Hate" because if you hate the station's format you won't stay around. I think we are all passionate and vocal here. I'd like to think we are "representing" many out there who don't have the time to post here or are not as passionate as we are. But I feel that we ARE a microcosm of The Sound's Listeners. I myself have been a vocal critic of the station but I also have mentioned many many artists and songs that I feel the audience would enjoy. Some of my suggestions HAVE been played, though I don't know, obviously, if that's a coincidence or not. I don't think they'll pull the plug here on this Forum or on the station.
They have along way to go and I do mean long way. They still haven't filled all the shifts yet, (made before they hired Julie Slater) Larry Morgan hasn't cracked open the morning drive mic yet, the website will eventually be revised. We are witnessing a work in progress and I give the highest props and kudos to The Sound's management team for providing a forum as well as an opportunity to personally meet the people who make it happen. How many new radio stations ever do that?
So I am still optomistic about the station's future and I am still with them --- most of the time as they keep reeling me in by playing Ozomatli, Meat Puppets, Dandy Warhols, Social Distrortion, Talk Talk, Screaming Trees, Marshall Crenshaw, even noticed they played "Love to Change the World"-10 Years After and also "Locomotive Breath" "Thick as a Brick"-Jethro Tull which I would say those last three songs are not too burned out. (PS "Farm on the Freeway"-Tull please play!!) Add to that new artists like Back Door Slam, Duke Spirit, Delta Spirit ("Trashcan"), Panderers, and Airborne Toxic Event and that's a nice mix of artists/genres all under the Rock Roof. So while that's not criticism it IS appreciation for what they ARE doing right and they need to hear that too!
Are they KLOS-Lite? I dunno they do play too much shared songs despite the good stuff I mentioned above. BTW Andy just played John Hiatt a few songs ago!! I wonder if your post had anything to do with that? [a poster complained that they played a few Hiatt songs for a week and then stopped playing him] Anyway the question on my mind is have they decided what their identity is yet? Maybe they don't know yet. Play SOME older rock songs is fine to give some familiarity to the station for a new listener who samples them. I believe that many listeners who no longer listen to terrestrial radio (i.e. satellite radio listeners, Internet radio listeners, and iPod listeners) have come back or will come back IF the station doesn't shoot itself in the foot by being KLOS-Lite and as a result turn off those potential fans of The Sound and drive them away. Just something to consider.
I Love Sushi and I Love rack of Lamb... When I'm in the mood for great sushi I go to a great place in Dana Point. When I am in the mood for a good rack of lamb, I go to a neighborhood bistro who cook it just right with all the fixins'. If I want great Italian food, I don't think of going to the sushi place, right?? The Kinsley Report (a poster) referenced Cheap Trick below and that reminded me, most of us at least liked that band, they did a great cover of Don't Be Cruel and most us like and liked The Eagles, the Stones, Supertramp, Led Zep and such. If we need a fix of those groups and nothing new, we know where to go to hear their old songs. If we want a dose of Airborne Toxic Event, Beck, Counting Crows, Bob Dylan, The Cure, or R.E.M. but all on one station we know we can find them all at 100.3. Just so long as we don't overdose on the classic rock stuff because if want to pig out on those classic rock acts and just those artists we know where to go. We just don't expect to overdose on them at The Sound.
Well another one lost [this post made after a regular poster was giving up on the station...He did come back though]
as I listen to Jude Cole's "Baby It's Tonight" thru imeem.com, The Kinsley Report certainly is a sobering one. Which way WILL The Sound go?? Towards Corporate safeness or Blaze a New Trail where few Radio Stations have gone before. Yes, 137 million is a big big investment, and more money has been spent on everything else with the income coming from some of the advertisers that ad agencies provide. I wish I had a crystal ball to predict what will be on 100.3 two years from today. Does The Sound want to keep people like Mr Kinsley, or attract those that want Doobie Brothers, Santana, Springsteen, Eagles, Pink Floyd, Doors, Queen (!!), CSN&Y, The Kinks, Dire Straits, Allman Brothers, Grateful Dead, Genesis (the Phil Collins version), Supertramp, David Bowie, Tom Petty, John Mellencamp, U2, Jackson Browne, Fleetwood Mac, Bad Company, Heart, Bob Marley, Steve Miller Band, Pretenders, Yes, Big Country and Their One Big Hit, Police, Cars, Talking Heads, The Who, Rolling Stones, etc etc. And then there's the KROQ/KYSR stuff from The Cure, Jane's Addiction, INXS, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, Psychedelic Furs, Simple Minds, etc etc with a few newer songs by true AAA acts in there. So mostly artists easily heard on other LA area radio stations. Dare to be different or The Safe Side?
Just to clarify --- Almost all those artists I mentioned are good artists and have a volume of work to be admired. I like something or most everything from them all. Yes play those artists and songs but please minimize the repetition of the SAME songs by the SAME artists. There is so much good music out there over the years that The Sound is STILL not playing. Here is a short list of just a few: Love Sick - Bob Dylan; Things Have Changed - Dylan; Do You Realize?-Flaming Lips; Goodbye Moon - Shivaree; Chemistry - Semisonic; Birmingham - Amanda Marshall; King of the Hill - Roger McGuinn; Sequestered in Memphis - The Hold Steady (new song); Eye of Fatima Part 1 - Camper van Beethoven; Free To Go - Folk Implosion; High Up On the Hook - Alice Russell; Lack of Water - The Why Store; He's Frank - Brighton Port Authority (Iggy Pop on vocals); Hello Hello - Sopwith Camel (real oldie from 1967); Lawyers in Love - Jackson Browne; Hell - Squirrel Nut Zippers; Mad About You - Hooverphonic; Early To Bed - Morphine; Burning in the Sun - Blue Merle; Something's Always Wrong - Toad the Wet Sprocket; Smoke and Ashes - Tracy Chapman; If I Didn't Love You - Squeeze; Speed of Life - Jude Cole; Requiem For a Dying Song - Flogging Molly (recent hit); Caught by the River - The Doves; My Culture - Giant Leap; Indigo Eyes - Peter Murphy; Legend of the Mind - Moody Blues; Congo Square - Sonny Landreth; Bitter - Jill Sobule; I Kissed a Girl - Jill Sobule; Everything Falls Apart - Dog's Eye View; All You Zombies - Hooters; Hot in the City - Billy Idol; Have Love Will Travel - Black Keys; Tough - Fabulous Thunderbirds; The Passenger - Iggy Pop; Nature Boy - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds; Last Cigarette - Dramarama; Shelter - Lone Justice; Something to Talk nAbout - Badly Drawn Boy; Fear of Falling - The Badlees; .... That's enough for now
SuperRadioFan
Let's face it...The Sound won't make and impact ratings wise for about 5 years, if they're lucky. You've got to be committed to this format and put in the time and $$. I think Bonnville sees KFOG up in the Bay and says..."Hey, we can do that".
Personally, don't think it will work...KPRI in San Diego has been on the air for a long time....And their ratings suck!
Does Bonneville know something we don't about the L.A market?
Personally, don't think it will work...KPRI in San Diego has been on the air for a long time....And their ratings suck!
Does Bonneville know something we don't about the L.A market?
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BACKnUSSR
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Re: Wow, who pooped in your porridge?
Its a pretty good indication that it won't work. Im sure each time it was tried (more than once), the think was
"if enough people sample, they will listen"....but its never worked out that way. Signal has been blamed, music out at the time has been blamed, the ethnic makeup of the market has been blamed...everything except the format.
Is there a real example of a major market AAA signon in the last decade that has worked? I can't think of one.
As for Jonesy, whats your definition of "thrive"?
gerald said:
Its a pretty good indication that it won't work. Im sure each time it was tried (more than once), the think was
"if enough people sample, they will listen"....but its never worked out that way. Signal has been blamed, music out at the time has been blamed, the ethnic makeup of the market has been blamed...everything except the format.
Is there a real example of a major market AAA signon in the last decade that has worked? I can't think of one.
As for Jonesy, whats your definition of "thrive"?
airpab said:
In 5 years, if you look at the trending, there will be less non-Hispanic whites in the market than today. We'll likely have close to 46% Hispanic, maybe 14% Asian, the same 8% Black and maybe 15% immigrants from Russia, Persia, the Middle East and Eastern Europe. That's around 82% to 83% other than the kind of people who represent nearly all of an AAA's audience.
The station has no better signal than KSCA had when it was AAA, so signal is not a comparitive issue. It's about ethnicity and the appeal of what is probably most non-ethinic format in America to the kind of people who make up LA.
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2djdramah
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DavidEduardo said:
^^^Looking at the demographics so true. What format do you think would be successful on 100.3??
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