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New head of sales for the CBS cluster

What does this make? 10 different DOS/Market Managers in the last 8 years?
I'm sorry, but several qualified people have held that job all with the same results.

HMMMMMMMMM maybe you think the CBS's "Expectation Model" is broken.....?

They are going to continue to churn through people until they change their
expectations. Dan Mason is a tool. CBS Radio is currently broken.
 
radiojomo said:
If she could make Indie run as long as it did, I think she possesses some killer talent.

Indie was not a real success by any metric. The time of some sales success came under the Clear Channel JSA and then the ensuing KDAY / Roy & Co. JSA. When the JSAs came to an end, the billing died.
 
DavidEduardo said:
radiojomo said:
If she could make Indie run as long as it did, I think she possesses some killer talent.

Indie was not a real success by any metric. The time of some sales success came under the Clear Channel JSA and then the ensuing KDAY / Roy & Co. JSA. When the JSAs came to an end, the billing died.
I never really said that Indie's billing was "succesful", I said that if she had made it run as far as it did, because of its poor ratings and weak signal, she has talent selling something very few advertisers would be interested in, although the CBS cluster is the best selling cluster in LA, she has some work already cut out for her.
 
On what basis is the CBS cluster the best selling cluster in LA? No actual revenue numbers support that statement. And it's not even close, by the way.
 
Shoot From Hip said:
On what basis is the CBS cluster the best selling cluster in LA? No actual revenue numbers support that statement. And it's not even close, by the way.
KROQ and KCBS sell the hell out of other stations. KRTH and KAMP probably do very well as well. And apparently KTWV still bills well. CBS bills well in LA
 
Your statement was the it is the "best selling cluster in LA." That statement is inaccurate. And neither KROQ nor KCBS is the top billing station in the market. Do they do well? Not nearly as well as they used to...but still decently. But that's different from what you asserted.
 
Shoot From Hip said:
Your statement was the it is the "best selling cluster in LA." That statement is inaccurate. And neither KROQ nor KCBS is the top billing station in the market. Do they do well? Not nearly as well as they used to...but still decently. But that's different from what you asserted.
In turn, where's your evidence that they're not the best? KIIS might have billed the most last year, but I'm sure some of that billing is now being shared with the addition of AMP.
 
radiojomo said:
No station is doing as well as they used to.

Bravo Madge, well done, (round of applause). ::)

Dumpy Little Building in Culver City = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
radiojomo said:
KIIS might have billed the most last year, but I'm sure some of that billing is now being shared with the addition of AMP.

Stations bill in a rather direct relationship with the audience they deliver... if KIIS has approximately the same delivery as it has had over time, it will bill in the same proportion. If Amp has increased in audience, most of its billing will come from stations that are lower rated or which have declined considerably.
 
Shoot From Hip said:
On what basis is the CBS cluster the best selling cluster in LA? No actual revenue numbers support that statement. And it's not even close, by the way.

2008 CC LA cluster revenue roughly $278 million. CBS, with fewer stations, did just over $200 million.
 
radiojomo said:
Shoot From Hip said:
On what basis is the CBS cluster the best selling cluster in LA? No actual revenue numbers support that statement. And it's not even close, by the way.
KROQ and KCBS sell the hell out of other stations. KRTH and KAMP probably do very well as well. And apparently KTWV still bills well. CBS bills well in LA

KOST, KPWR and KIIS all outbilled KCBS in '08. KIIS outbilled, as normal, everyone.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Shoot From Hip said:
On what basis is the CBS cluster the best selling cluster in LA? No actual revenue numbers support that statement. And it's not even close, by the way.

2008 CC LA cluster revenue roughly $278 million. CBS, with fewer stations, did just over $200 million.
$200 million for having fewer stations is still very excellent. I'm sure if CBS did have the same amount of FM stations, they could technically match or pass CC's revenue. KAMP has the potential to be a big biller, I've been noticing that they've been dropping the "Less Commercials than KIIS FM Every Hour" pre-roll lately, and ads have been increasing.
 
DavidEduardo said:
radiojomo said:
Shoot From Hip said:
On what basis is the CBS cluster the best selling cluster in LA? No actual revenue numbers support that statement. And it's not even close, by the way.
KROQ and KCBS sell the hell out of other stations. KRTH and KAMP probably do very well as well. And apparently KTWV still bills well. CBS bills well in LA

KOST, KPWR and KIIS all outbilled KCBS in '08. KIIS outbilled, as normal, everyone.
The question everyone wants to know is how much KLAA billed last year???
 
radiojomo said:
$200 million for having fewer stations is still very excellent. I'm sure if CBS did have the same amount of FM stations, they could technically match or pass CC's revenue. KAMP has the potential to be a big biller, I've been noticing that they've been dropping the "Less Commercials than KIIS FM Every Hour" pre-roll lately, and ads have been increasing.

I heard the KIIS comparison as recently as yesterday... but remember, a big piece of CC's 2008 revenue was the nearly $80 million from the two major AM's, and the KLAC portion will not be as proportionally high this year due to the Lakers contract; I say "proportionally" in that everyone suffered in 2009.
 
DavidEduardo said:
I heard the KIIS comparison as recently as yesterday... but remember, a big piece of CC's 2008 revenue was the nearly $80 million from the two major AM's, and the KLAC portion will not be as proportionally high this year due to the Lakers contract; I say "proportionally" in that everyone suffered in 2009.
But what percentage of the CBS profit is from their AM stations? I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than $10-15 million for both KNX and KFWB. KLAC without Lakers basketball is nothing, CC might as well broker it if they still want to maintain KLAC money...
 
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