Flipping back to The Eagle and running rock music again isn't going to work if it's going to be the same stuff that The Eagle was running in its final years. They did not have a competent plan for dealing with KVIL when KVIL took a portion of their playlist and welded it into the bog standard Audacy Alternative playlist. If they don't have one now, it's just going to be the same thing happening all over again. They need to do something different. What that possibly could entail, I don't know. But I have my doubts that iHeart has a detailed plan for making KEGL competitive, especially since they haven't given KVIL time to become complacent. Not to mention that John Allers, who led KVIL into forcing KEGL to flip in the first place, is still overseeing that station, and most of the people who started KVIL's revival are also still there.
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New Rock station coming to DFW?
- Thread starter Kramer
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The concept could have worked if they had tried the WMMS route: build a strong talk show in afternoon drive, poach an existing morning show from the competition, make middays personality-intensive with some music, and have the Mavs as the star in nights surrounded by rock. Such a formula has worked very, very well for WMMS.
I'll scream from the rooftops until I'm blue in the face, it was the talk shows that killed The Eagle. RMS was one thing, adding Ben And Skin to make the entire afternoons all talk was a horrible choice that should've put serious red flags against adding even more talk. To make matters worse, they added SPORTS. KVIL gained everything when KEGL wouldn't play music for 12 hours. People wanted Rock, The Eagle gave them talk and sports putting it against every talk station plus KVIL. It wasn't the music choices, it was the lack of music all together.
I think that WAS the model. Mike Rhyner in afternoons and Mike Sirois in mornings were each known talents who had a fan base. But they didn't deliver, and their fans didn't respond. They were given lots of latitude to be all they could be, and they failed. They're blaming the company, but the blame should fall on them. It also works for KISW in Seattle.
Should've kept The Treehouse but Clo messed that up.
Did you read the OP? They're bringing back heritage talent, playing harder edged rock, and deep cuts. What's your problem with that?
Will they play Iron Maiden, Judas Priest etc?
There's still no logical connection to the original post and KEGL. The stations the heritage talent mentioned there are from haven't existed in 20-30 years playing "Classic Hard Rock" and "Deep Cuts'. That to me would hurt only one station. 92.5 KZPS also owned by iHeart. Why would they do that?
The new Eagle if it is indeed that, and I'm only about 70-80% confident it will be the Eagle (all references are coming from people who were let go from Freak, nobody in the building has verified that), will likely feature a majority of out-of-market format center talent and a syndicated morning show. Not a bunch of people who haven't been on the air in decades with programming that would compete with one of iHeart's other stations in their cluster.
Plus, can anyone name one commercial, major market non AAA formatted station that succeeds playing deep cuts in any format? There's a reason it isn't done. In my mind there's a better chance 97.1 flips to Dance or Bluegrass.
I agree with all that. Just that the timing seems so coincidental.
What you say sounds more like iHeart than the OP.
It didn't stop San Antonio. Cox has (technically) two classic rock stations: 99.5 Kiss (that plays mostly harder-edged 80s-early 2000s rock bands) and 106.7 The Eagle (that has a playlist similar to KZPS, if not softer). And both stations have cracked the top 10 at some point or another.
My theory is that the new 'deep cut' rock station will be on HD2 while the Eagle lives on HD1.
KISS in San Antonio is akin to a 45 / 45 / 10 percent blend of SXM's Lithium, Turbo and Ozzy's Boneyard channels. It is a good mix!
They also have a great morning show. I once suggested that iHM should consider carrying the Billy Madison show on 97.1. I remain fully supportive of such a move.
They also have a great morning show. I once suggested that iHM should consider carrying the Billy Madison show on 97.1. I remain fully supportive of such a move.
Never going to happen. They'd rather air 1khz tone than give money to a competitor.
I think all of that falls into the Rush Limbaugh exception. Lots of radio companies carried Rush because he had heritage in their market. The minute he died, competing companies started their own shows. Same with your examples.
Billy Madison also walked away from iHeart once before. He was on 97.5 KMOD before Cox lured him away with a bigger market and more money. It also blew up Star 103.3 in Tulsa despite it being a cash cow just to clear him in the market and run him opposite his old slot on KMOD. There's absolutely no love lost there.
The Eagle doesn’t need a morning show. In fact, after ruining the station by adding MORE talk over the last few years, they’ve earned the right to be an automated jukebox for awhile
Regular weekend programming, including repeats of News Junkie.
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