Next NFL Blackout Victim...

[Tim L]

On the NFL blackout site, It lists Browns-Lions as being shown in avout half of Ohio and parts of Michigan..A very small area..

http://the506.com/nflmaps/2009/11-CBS-E.html

 

[liradioisbad]

That makes four. Would that be a record for most blacked out games in a single week?

I've been reading the forums of the NFL tv maps site and they made up an extensive list of every blacked out game ever. Not only is this not even close to the record, but in the 70's, there were some seasons where less than half the total games weren't blacked out. It wasn't until 1998 where we had a week where every game was sold out, and in 2006, every game during the first half of the season was blacked out.

Sorry to ramble on, but from what I've gathered it used to be a lot, lot worse.

 

[JeeperOne]

It wasn't until 1998 where we had a week where every game was sold out, and in 2006, every game during the first half of the season was blacked out.

Err....Don't you mean that at least one game per week was blacked out in the first half of the 1998 season??

As a Broncos fan, I can personally attest that EVERY Denver Broncos home game was seen here in Denver. For that to not happen would have been BLASPHEMOUS since they were the Defending World Champions & had John Elway at QB & Mike Shanaghan (sp?) as Head Coach in 1998.

If memory serves me right, they were also well on their way to their second straight Super Bowl appearance as well.

Just a correction.....

Cheers

 

[KML0224]

Yes, Denver reached, and won, Super Bowl XXXIII by beating Atlanta. FOX premiered Family Guy after that night's title tilt.

 

[philosofy]

Somehow the Chargers managed to avoid a blackout here in San Diego. I wonder who bought up the 3000 or so tickets that were left: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/nov/28/chiefs-chargers-be-shown-locally/

 

[DToTheJ]

Meanwhile, in Jacksonville: An unprecedented sixth home game in a row has blacked out. This despite the fact that the Jaguars have won their fourth home game in a row, leading into this Sunday's matchup vs. Houston:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-jaguars-blackout&prov=ap&type=lgns

This can't sit right with Mr. Goodell.

 

[JeeperOne]

Meanwhile, in Jacksonville: An unprecedented sixth home game in a row has blacked out. This despite the fact that the Jaguars have won their fourth home game in a row, leading into this Sunday's matchup vs. Houston:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-jaguars-blackout&prov=ap&type=lgns

This can't sit right with Mr. Goodell.

I agree. Not with so many cities in America who would LOVE to have an NFL franchise in their backyard. Look at what the NBA with the old Seattle SuperSonics. They're now in OKC. I'm sure the NFL could make a similar move (Like relocating the Jaguars to Las Vegas & sending them to the NFC in exchange for St. Louis).

Just my opinion.....

Cheers

 

[cowboybud]

Meanwhile, in Jacksonville: An unprecedented sixth home game in a row has blacked out. This despite the fact that the Jaguars have won their fourth home game in a row, leading into this Sunday's matchup vs. Houston:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-jaguars-blackout&prov=ap&type=lgns

This can't sit right with Mr. Goodell.

I agree. Not with so many cities in America who would LOVE to have an NFL franchise in their backyard. Look at what the NBA with the old Seattle SuperSonics. They're now in OKC. I'm sure the NFL could make a similar move (Like relocating the Jaguars to Las Vegas & sending them to the NFC in exchange for St. Louis).

Just my opinion.....

Cheers

The NFL wants nothing to do with Las Vegas, for obvious reasons.

 

[dhett]

The NFL wants nothing to do with Las Vegas, for obvious reasons.

Yeah, that market would be a bigger disaster than Jacksonville. Jax has the potential of drawing fans from Southern Georgia and Northern Florida, while Las Vegas has just Las Vegas. All right, they could draw fans from Lake Havasu City, Kingman, Bullhead City/Laughlin, Pahrump, Mesquite and Saint George as well. Never underestimate the potential from Pahrump, either.

If Vegas ever got a team, I seriously doubt that gambling would be a problem with it. They keep a tight lid on things and would make sure that the gambling stay separate from the local team, most likely forbidding gambling on them at all. And as long as the mob gets a big enough piece of the action, they would see to the strictest enforcement.

 

[LynnW]

When the new stadium is finished in the City of Industry, CA, I think the Rams will move back. And the Jaguars move to St. Louis. And they should be renamed the Stallions, which is what they were supposed to be. The colors were to be purple, gold and silver. I saw some of the hats and tee shirts when I was in Zaire way back when. The clothing items were dumped in Africa when the team was placed in Jacksonville because of bickering over who should own them and the stadium lease in St. Louis.

In 1993, the Patriots were close to being moved to St. Louis and would have been renamed the Stallions.

 

[DToTheJ]

In 1993, the Patriots were close to being moved to St. Louis and would have been renamed the Stallions.

Is that right? The Patriots? I'm not doubting you, of course... But I doubt the team will be going anywhere now...

 

[nightfly61]

The Browns!!!

 

[DToTheJ]

Not quite yet:

Cleveland Browns given blackout extension

We'll find out in about nine hours or so...

In addition, the other NFL franchise in Ohio - the one that's actually playing a lot better football than the Browns - the Cincinnati Bengals - the division-leading Bengals, mind you - also were granted a blackout extension... but this week's game is against the Detroit Lions, so it's too close to call...

 

[BRNout]

In 1993, the Patriots were close to being moved to St. Louis and would have been renamed the Stallions.

Is that right? The Patriots? I'm not doubting you, of course... But I doubt the team will be going anywhere now...

Believe it or not, yes. Before Bob Kraft bought the team and built Gillette Stadium, the Pats struggled for a number of years. They played in Schaefer Stadium, which was the last NFL stadium to have benches instead of seats (IIRC). Hard metal benches, tightly packed and totally open to the elements. The team was an also-ran to the Red Sox, Celtics and even the Bruins at the time and sold the tickets cheaply. This attracted a rough and rowdy crowd, further diminishing the "family" atmosphere. There were lots of issues with drunken idiots causing scuffles and throwing drinks around. Not a good scene and no place where you'd want to bring your kids.

Kraft, to his credit, turned it all around. First he cleaned up Schaefer and got a better crowd in there. Then he played hardball for a new stadium, first trying for Boston, then threatening to move to Hartford (actually he burned Hartford - many there are still pissed), then finally getting all the concessions he needed for a new stadium in Foxborough. That stadium opened in 2002 (I had the pleasure of attending the opening game, a MNF battle between NE and Pittsburgh).

Now they're the hottest ticket in New England (not just Boston), and feature a first-class team in a first class facility. Season ticket holders drive to the games from Vermont, Maine and northern New Hampshire, as well as closer in locations around Boston and Providence. I know a group who make the trip every week from north of Lewiston, ME - and that's not even unusual.

So yes, it's hard to believe it now, but there was a time not so long ago that New England almost lost the Patriots.

 

[KeithE4]

Believe it or not, yes. Before Bob Kraft bought the team and built Gillette Stadium, the Pats struggled for a number of years. They played in Schaefer Stadium, which was the last NFL stadium to have benches instead of seats (IIRC). Hard metal benches, tightly packed and totally open to the elements.

If you want to get technical, the last stadium with metal benches used for an NFL team was Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, AZ (Arizona Cardinals), although that's a college stadium, not one built for the NFL. It last hosted an NFL game in 2005.

So yes, it's hard to believe it now, but there was a time not so long ago that New England almost lost the Patriots.

No they didn't. Last I checked, Hartford CT is still a part of New England. They wouldn't have even had to change the name of the team.

 

[firepoint525]

The NFL wants nothing to do with Las Vegas, for obvious reasons.

Yeah, that market would be a bigger disaster than Jacksonville. Jax has the potential of drawing fans from Southern Georgia and Northern Florida, while Las Vegas has just Las Vegas. All right, they could draw fans from Lake Havasu City, Kingman, Bullhead City/Laughlin, Pahrump, Mesquite and Saint George as well. Never underestimate the potential from Pahrump, either.
If Vegas ever got a team, I seriously doubt that gambling would be a problem with it. They keep a tight lid on things and would make sure that the gambling stay separate from the local team, most likely forbidding gambling on them at all. And as long as the mob gets a big enough piece of the action, they would see to the strictest enforcement.

I don't think that that is what they are worried about. More likely, the temptations to the players themselves if the NFL ever located a team there.

 

[BRNout]

No they didn't. Last I checked, Hartford CT is still a part of New England. They wouldn't have even had to change the name of the team.

Yeah, you're right about that and I certainly know better....of course Connecticut is part of New England! : I guess I was thinking of Massachusetts and writing "New England" at the same time - my big error and I'm glad you corrected it.

 

[Brother]

No they didn't. Last I checked, Hartford CT is still a part of New England. They wouldn't have even had to change the name of the team.

Yeah, you're right about that and I certainly know better....of course Connecticut is part of New England! : I guess I was thinking of Massachusetts and writing "New England" at the same time - my big error and I'm glad you corrected it.

Not so much a big error, though - the Pats would have left New England had James Orthwein moved the team to St. Louis in the early 1990s (which still really isn't all that long ago). Instead, he sold to Robert Kraft, the Rams moved to St. Louis, the Pats stayed put, and the rest is history. Well, history for the Patriots, anyway. The Rams have fallen on such hard times their local blackout against the Seahawks last Sunday wasn't even mentioned in this thread.

 

[dhett]

The NFL wants nothing to do with Las Vegas, for obvious reasons.

Yeah, that market would be a bigger disaster than Jacksonville. Jax has the potential of drawing fans from Southern Georgia and Northern Florida, while Las Vegas has just Las Vegas. All right, they could draw fans from Lake Havasu City, Kingman, Bullhead City/Laughlin, Pahrump, Mesquite and Saint George as well. Never underestimate the potential from Pahrump, either.
If Vegas ever got a team, I seriously doubt that gambling would be a problem with it. They keep a tight lid on things and would make sure that the gambling stay separate from the local team, most likely forbidding gambling on them at all. And as long as the mob gets a big enough piece of the action, they would see to the strictest enforcement.

I don't think that that is what they are worried about. More likely, the temptations to the players themselves if the NFL ever located a team there.

Don't think for a second that gambling is any less of a problem anywhere else than in Las Vegas. If anything, a player would have a harder time in Vegas because everything is so tightly controlled.

 

[DToTheJ]

Week 14 blackouts: As usual, Jacksonville won't be broadcast on local TV; meanwhile, the Chiefs were granted an extension to sell out their game with Buffalo.