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Nicole Sandler Goes Nuts At Town Hall
- Thread starter DToTheJ
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The defenders of right-wing talk have to utterly stomp on and destroy any liberal host they can -- especially any LOCAL liberal host.
Yes, Nicole Sandler is a talk host. Really. Yes she beat the pants off WIOD in the morning and got fired for it. Really.
Historically, liberal talk radio has been far more successful than conservative talk radio in South Florida. Look at Joyce Kaufman. All the pub she got from the Broward Schools incident and WFTL STILL can't move past a two-and-change in PALM BEACH! IOD languishes below a two in its HOME MARKET.
Rather than admit that conservative talk isn't really a fit in SoFla, and that there's an inconsistency between the way the "TEA" protesters of '09 and '10 got treated and the way Nicole gets treated by a "TEA" congressman in '11, they'll just keep bashing away and try to drive South Florida's long record of liberal talk success and conservative talk failure down the memory hole and make people forget history and believe its opposite.
Yes, Nicole Sandler is a talk host. Really. Yes she beat the pants off WIOD in the morning and got fired for it. Really.
Historically, liberal talk radio has been far more successful than conservative talk radio in South Florida. Look at Joyce Kaufman. All the pub she got from the Broward Schools incident and WFTL STILL can't move past a two-and-change in PALM BEACH! IOD languishes below a two in its HOME MARKET.
Rather than admit that conservative talk isn't really a fit in SoFla, and that there's an inconsistency between the way the "TEA" protesters of '09 and '10 got treated and the way Nicole gets treated by a "TEA" congressman in '11, they'll just keep bashing away and try to drive South Florida's long record of liberal talk success and conservative talk failure down the memory hole and make people forget history and believe its opposite.
smedge2006 said:
That doesn't have as much to do with liberal/conservative as the fact that it's WFTL. Joyce is a good talk host. She does a lot of the right stuff to boost her popularity and ratings. She's always at events, including those Tea Party things. But management at WFTL doesn't know how to fight their way out of a paper bag. No one knows about WFTL because they don't promote it.
Plus, Broward schools being locked down would have little effect on the WPB market.
smedge2006 said:
In ONE book, WINZ beat WIOD in mornings in any demo that matters... and it was by a tiny difference. One of the stations was, IIRC, 23rd in 25-54 and the other was 24th.
This is like arguing about how dead a cadaver is.
Neither station won. Both lost.
I listened to the video and Sandler has a point. She was just trying to politely voice her opposition but was being ignored. I don't know Nicole Sandler personally but listen to her on The Randi Rhodes Show when she is the sub host. (I have to listen to an out of state station online to hear RR thanks to Florida not having a Progressive Talk station.) Just listening to Nicole on the R.R Show proves to she is VERY professional. The only time she gets fed up with a caller is when they don't listen. Sandler is a very nice/educated person on the radio and knows her stuff.
Secondly the Town Hall meeting was more of a lecture. Not a Town-Hall. Kind of like when are criminal governor did a twitter town hall. Never anwsered the hard questions. Just went after the easy ones wiith people he might agree with.
Your the best Nicole. I would enjoy hearing you some more!
Secondly the Town Hall meeting was more of a lecture. Not a Town-Hall. Kind of like when are criminal governor did a twitter town hall. Never anwsered the hard questions. Just went after the easy ones wiith people he might agree with.
Your the best Nicole. I would enjoy hearing you some more!
gamefreak said:
You, like Nicole, are missing the point. The assembly, under whatever name it used, had a set of rules that were previously announced.
If you disagree with the Governor or your Representative, don't vote for them next time. You did vote, didn't you?
DavidEduardo said:
And you David Eduardo seem to have appointed yourself the ultimate arbiter of what is and what isn't acceptable.
The one thing none of you seem to have mentioned is that Nicole didn't attend the "town hall meeting" as a radio personality. She went as a constituent. Never once - not even when she was arrested - did she identify herself as a member of the media.
Eduardo, do your bosses know how much time you spend on this site? I'd think they'd prefer you paid more attention to your radio stations instead of being judge and jury about everything that doesn't concern you.
The neat thing about this forum is that you can't be interrupted and screamed over so that nobody else can be heard.
As for taking it to the streets, pulling in and planting other bad behavior types and acting like an idiot, that is not something that is alien to some who cannot get the attention of others via ratings. The bad behavior might make them seem to be stronger in numbers than they really are.
As for a total lack of decorum in the presence of dignitaries, whether or not one cares for them, that is simply a lack of social graces, to say nothing of either a lack of knowledge or comprehension of the Constitutional provision of "peaceable assembly" and an inability to get a viable petition for the redress of non-existent grievances.
Such conduct does not demonstrate talent but illiteracy or plain ignorance, given the apparent inability to comprehend previously set forth rules of conduct which, frankly, should not have been necessary in the first place. It is tantamount to having to be sent a notice with respect to appropriate attire for attendance in court.
This is just someone else acting out to get attention for no special reason. It was an abuse of privilege by a spoiled brat and nothing more.
As for taking it to the streets, pulling in and planting other bad behavior types and acting like an idiot, that is not something that is alien to some who cannot get the attention of others via ratings. The bad behavior might make them seem to be stronger in numbers than they really are.
As for a total lack of decorum in the presence of dignitaries, whether or not one cares for them, that is simply a lack of social graces, to say nothing of either a lack of knowledge or comprehension of the Constitutional provision of "peaceable assembly" and an inability to get a viable petition for the redress of non-existent grievances.
Such conduct does not demonstrate talent but illiteracy or plain ignorance, given the apparent inability to comprehend previously set forth rules of conduct which, frankly, should not have been necessary in the first place. It is tantamount to having to be sent a notice with respect to appropriate attire for attendance in court.
This is just someone else acting out to get attention for no special reason. It was an abuse of privilege by a spoiled brat and nothing more.
fmboi said:
To the contrary. I am simply engaging in discourse. Perhaps if you look at the origin of the thread you will see that a) I did not initiate it and, b) the title, including the term "nuts," had already set the tone.
As to "acceptability," we live in a society where there is rule of law, including the unwritten and written rules of social behaviour. I was pointing out that the meeting had a set of rules, and taking umbrage at the enforcement of those rules is boorish and uncouth.
... all the more reason why she should have followed the same rules nearly everybody else did. Those who did not follow the rules were either asked to do so or ejected. That seems rather reasonable.
I don't have any bosses.
It's none of your business.
You are obfuscating.
Arrange the above three points in any order that suits you. I'd put the third one first.
The whole point of a discussion board is to allow the presentation, within set rules, of comments and news about radio across the US and the world. In that context, anything that interests me "concerns me" and I can decide for myself whether to merely be interested or to add my comments and observations.
To touch up more about the town hall I believe Allen West didn't do the american thing that day. West is a public servent. I believe the only reason he had to do the note card thing was very simple. So he could hand=pick the questions he wanted to anwser and ignore the hard ones. Conservatives love to do this all the time. Look at when Gov. Rick Scott did a twitter town hall. These people should not be in office. They don't serve the public.
For example the right-wingers believe that anyone who disagrees with them should be silenced. Look at what happened in Wisconsin when people were protesting over the governors Anti-Union legislation. The Republicans in that state were calling the heathens, slops and free-loaders just for protesting.
For example the right-wingers believe that anyone who disagrees with them should be silenced. Look at what happened in Wisconsin when people were protesting over the governors Anti-Union legislation. The Republicans in that state were calling the heathens, slops and free-loaders just for protesting.
Dave Eduardo, we do agree with you regarding fmboi's Nicole Sandler ramblings, most of which are about none other then, you guessed it, Nicole Sandler. Funny thing about that, after looking back over fmboi's postings, all 18 of em, you'll see that 9 of the 18 posting's are all about Nicole Sandler, how ironic, some of the post was when she was perhaps doing LA radio and some are of whatever it is she think's she's doing now, what doe's that tell you, it clearly tells you that fmboi is nothing more then a Nicole Sandler suck-up, perhaps he's out of work living in our old hometown of Miami and looking for a job, although he makes it really apparent he'd love to be working for southfloridaradio.com, but in order for that to happen we're thinking he need's to continue sucking-up to Nicole Sandler!
So in short, fmboi makes it apparent he's looking for a gig, and by continuing to suck-up to Nicole Sandler we're figuring that he figures this perhaps will move thing's right along very quickly, so we thank goodness for this thread, the nice people at Radio-Info.com, and for Nicole Sandler for going "NUT'S", because if she hadn't gone "NUT'S" one could only imagine where in the world "fmboi" would be right now, because as you can clearly see fmboi is only hanging by a, well you guessed it, a thread!
So in short, fmboi makes it apparent he's looking for a gig, and by continuing to suck-up to Nicole Sandler we're figuring that he figures this perhaps will move thing's right along very quickly, so we thank goodness for this thread, the nice people at Radio-Info.com, and for Nicole Sandler for going "NUT'S", because if she hadn't gone "NUT'S" one could only imagine where in the world "fmboi" would be right now, because as you can clearly see fmboi is only hanging by a, well you guessed it, a thread!
gamefreak said:
He did the most American thing: establish rules rather than starting a free for all. It's the difference between anarchy and the US. And allowing participation via written questions is the difference between totalitarianism and the US.
Allowing the person who screams / screeches / howls the loudest to have the floor is not inherently American.
So, what makes your voice more deserving of being heard than the other tens of thousands of constituents? If your question was not selected, you can write or email the Representative or campaign for the opposing party, among many other things. There is no right to having every question answered.
A lot of people disagreed with the protesters... starting with the private sector folks, like me, who don't get a pension of 70% or 80% of their last few years' income and who don't have to save. But most of those folks had to work or look for work, because they didn't have guaranteed lifetime employment.
What happened in Wisconsin was close to mob rule. The only thing missing was a lynching.
Perhaps people who have little or no experience in the way things are in 90% of the world can not see the danger in extremism and mob militancy. If you are in Miami, talk to a Cuban immigrant who lived under Castro and had to leave or be imprisoned or killed, and you might get a new perspective and learn that "you can have it your own way" is only a Burger King slogan.
Dirty ACLU! Don't they realize that liberal talk radio is a failure and that all liberal talk radio hosts need to be taught a lesson with a little jail time.... 
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