I am sure they researched this. Think of it as music testing, a song that sounds bad to you can test really well. .
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On the AM, WINS Teletype is back.
- Thread starter L Chanon Gade
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Does anyone in their 20s even know what AM radio is?
I've seen people mistakenly refer to the sound as a "ticker tape machine"... but even those are obsolete now.
Whatever you call it, I find the teletype sound far less obtrusive and annoying than the sound of fingers clacking on keyboards, phones ringing, and dot-matrix printers(!) that New Jersey 101.5 uses during their news reports, to make them sound like a "busy newsroom".
Whatever you call it, I find the teletype sound far less obtrusive and annoying than the sound of fingers clacking on keyboards, phones ringing, and dot-matrix printers(!) that New Jersey 101.5 uses during their news reports, to make them sound like a "busy newsroom".
That's not WINS's target audience. Very few radio stations worry about 10 or 20 years ahead. If you have the debt a lot of radio operators have you just trying to make enough to pay your debt payments.
Had the radio operators 20 or 30 years ago had realized the impact the Internet is having now they would have set up their financing different and started their own "Pandora" services with a localized "flavor" with their in place sales staff.
IMHO Pandora should have worked with radio stations instead of competing with them..
Why would they have done that? Just another "partner" that they'd need to share revenue with.
Radio was too married to the linear programming and advertising-supported model to pivot to more modern technology.
As for the debt, the significant drop in revenue is the real problem. I don't think the industry would be in materially better shape if consolidation did not happen.
Pandora and other streaming services can give you what you want, on demand, without chatter, or 12 minute stop sets.
And, if you want hosted content, there are commercial free options for that too.
It is not the teletype per se, it's the audio wallpaper behind the news delivery that sonically identifies (or used to) that a listener is tuned to WINS. I hate to sound like a certain dentist, but you guys are overthinking this. It's an AM station, ancient modulation, and nobody tunes to an AM station to hear pristine audio. With the teletype, WINS has a unique sound that stands out from the rest of the pack.
I do and I'm in my 20s. I've never used one. But I've got pictures of the UPI teletype that was in our old studio back in the 50s.
We use a teletype sound effect as a bed under the voice-over liner heading into our local newscasts but it fades out about :10 after the voice-over ends, so it is there just long enough to get into the actual news before dropping away. I think it works well because it's a sound that listeners associate with newsrooms and newscasts, but it would get monotonous clacking away throughout the whole thing. Especially for a full-service small-town station.
I'd wager that the average listener in the 60s/70s probably didn't even know what a teletype was. Just like most listeners today have no clue what a voicetrack is...
Why it took me so many years I don't know, but I finally saw the movie "Superman". And that describes exactly what The Daily Planet was like.
The computer lab where I went to college had one. I don't know why. Everyone used monitors and printers. But one which seemed to be without ink printed messages that also appeared on the monitors after there had been a shutdown.
Similarly, just about every TV news theme uses a repeating staccato note meant to evoke the sound of Morse code, 100+ years after that medium of news delivery became obsolete. The CBS Radio News sounder did as well.
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That's not WINS's target audience. Very few radio stations worry about 10 or 20 years ahead. If you have the debt a lot of radio operators have you just trying to make enough to pay your debt payments.
Had the radio operators 20 or 30 years ago had realized the impact the Internet is having now they would have set up their financing different and started their own "Pandora" services with a localized "flavor" with their in place sales staff.
IMHO Pandora should have worked with radio stations instead of competing with them..
Pandora wasn't friendly to it shareholders. I know from personal experience.
It's Sirius XM problem now. Pandora went from around 80 million users in 2015 to around 41 million users in 2025.
But you have many more options for streaming music now than you did in 2014. I don't think that there's anything "old fashioned" radio could have done to prevent us from getting to where we are. I understand people's sentimental attachment to the way things were, but that's not the business anymore.
You run a web based radio station pretty economically. Your OTA talent voice tracks other formats geofence the web stations that are different formats from what you play OTA. Example you Hot AC talent VT's CHR, AC, and whatever they are calling rhythmic AC now.
In sub 100 markets where national agencies' commercials isn't major revenue source, your sales folks could up sell the Internet "stations" as a extra or a bonus for really big packages.
The people that want to hear only music they like, haven't listened to OTA radio since the invention of cassettes and eight track car players in the 1960's. The cell phone has replaced the tape / CD player. They have been gone for over 50 years.