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part-time job opening
- Thread starter WLYNWAZNgm
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We are STILL looking for a qualified candidate
for this part-time position...
for this part-time position...
Wow, 3 months later and still no qualified candidate.
Goes to show, kids today are much smarter than us.
Last year I was at a college career seminar.
We had one opening for a entry level promotions person.
(You can become a Radio Star!!!)
The students asked the usual questions:
Pay? Low
Hours? Weekends, nights, holidays, whenever we need you.
Lots of jobs in the industry? No
Advancement? :
Response? Thanks but no thanks!
Goes to show, kids today are much smarter than us.
Last year I was at a college career seminar.
We had one opening for a entry level promotions person.
(You can become a Radio Star!!!)
The students asked the usual questions:
Pay? Low
Hours? Weekends, nights, holidays, whenever we need you.
Lots of jobs in the industry? No
Advancement? :
Response? Thanks but no thanks!
True enough! The young 'uns today have no concept of
"paying your dues"...
"paying your dues"...
JIBGUY said:
If this were 15-16 years ago, I would have walked to Jeff's station in the pouring rain with a two-ton elephant on my back to take the job 8)
Hey Radiorama -
Wanna "keep your hand" in the 'biz?
Come see me! 8)
Wanna "keep your hand" in the 'biz?
Come see me! 8)
MassMusicMan
Banned
WLYNgm said:
Sure we do. We pay our dues where will get dividends, not where the on-air jobs are given to Ryan Seacrest.
I know that doesn't apply to your station (of which I know nothing), but perception is reality. And the reality is that radio people aren't celebrities anymore.
That said, we're in a recession, and I should get a second job myself. However, Saturday is my day off, so most radio jobs are dealbreakers for me.
Not all radio jobs are "on-air" jobs.
Nor should they be... If somebody
is actually willing to work, and pay their dues,
I am willing to take a chance on them... If they have that
Gen X sense of entitlement, I'm not interested...
Nor should they be... If somebody
is actually willing to work, and pay their dues,
I am willing to take a chance on them... If they have that
Gen X sense of entitlement, I'm not interested...
WLYNgm said:
LOL !!
However, you could offer them the chance to also have an employee's voice on the air, recording the EAS-Test intro, some ID's, etc. That was often done in the past to lure board ops, as I'm sure you know. T'would make the job a tiny bit more interesting. However, I, at age 59, am perhaps out of tune with the glory of radio these days....What young person would care if his voice is on the air if all of his peers don't know how to even FIND 1470 or even how to just plain use the AM dial?
My first job was board-op'ing a a Sunday morning Italian language/music show starting in 1970 (along with DJ'ing a seperate regular-format underground rock weekend shift or two). (WCMF-FM Rochester).The Italian host and I got along so well, we almost co-hosted the show together, meaning that I did most of the liners, promos and song-countdown-numbers intros. It was a hoot! So much so, that I didn't want to leave the Italian show even when I 'graduated' to full time on air at the station.
Can ya'all imagine that? Bob Bittner playing The Fugs, CJ & Fish, the Woodstock Albums, Blind Faith, Derek & Dominoes, Hendrix, Cream, etc.
On the first full paragraph.... I'm not slamming AM radio at all. I heartily believe in it. Do something DIFFERENT with at least a mild amount of wide-appeal, with an AM station and the audience will come. Actually, AM is alive and well on this board.... almost 50% of the posts are about AM stations!
Dude, if you think Gen-X'ers have a sense of entitlement, you might as well close up shop...'cos you're in no shape to be a supervisor anymore. Millennials are about 100,000 times more entitled, whiny, unmotivated and needy than the cynical and practical Gen X folks. I highly recommend reading Jean Twenge's book "Generation Me"...we had to as part of a seminar for the Division of Student Affairs last semester. I found it a bit redundant...I'm close enough in age to that generation that it's all instinctive to me...but seeing how Twenge explained it to the over-40 folks in our department was impressive; she knows her stuff.
For example, it's easy to write-off the youngin's as "entitled", but that's only half the story. Millennials are also more creative, harder-working (when they're interested in something) and work excellently in teams. Unfortunately, the environment you have to create in order for millennials to thrive is practically anathema to radio. You have to have a clear, rapid path of potential advancement, you have to work with them on a constant basis, you have to treat them like they are as important and knowledgeable as you...because more often than not, they are. (at least in their eyes)
Most importantly, you have to present them with a job that gives them the immediate feeling that they're making a difference. I don't think radio can actually do that. It's highly questionable that radio makes a difference at all anymore, much less to a generation that has never known life without cellphones, texting and e-mail. But focusing back on the specifics again, name me a position in radio where you really see that something you did made an impact. Even just once. I'd be shocked if any of us - save for the employees of WWNO in 2005 - have done that in the last five years, even the last ten. Radio isn't about making an impact, it's about doing your job right the first time, every time, and doing that over and over every day. Rarely do you see a significant benefit in your daily routine...although if you screw up it becomes glaringly apparent to thousands of people very quickly.
Yeesh, no wonder I have a hard time getting my students to give a crap about WEOS. :'(
Getting back to brass tacks, though...radio is a dying industry and everyone kinda knows it. It's like working for a newspaper...what fool would take THAT job? Lousy pay, lousy benefits, stressful work conditions, no means for advancement, guaranteed layoffs in your future? Hell, radio's not much different...that's I didn't take a job at a radio station, I took a job at a COLLEGE. Big difference, there.
You hit the bullseye!
Besides us sounding like our parents(those kids today)
the next generation is smarter, faster, wiser.
Education worked!
Some quick research on the internet and they see little or no advancement.
Why pay your dues when there are no rewards?
Besides us sounding like our parents(those kids today)
the next generation is smarter, faster, wiser.
Education worked!
Some quick research on the internet and they see little or no advancement.
Why pay your dues when there are no rewards?
WLYNgm said:
Thanks for the offer... however seeing as I already have "both hands" in the 'biz upwards of 50-60 hrs. (avg.) per week, I must decline...
Have you thought about putting up a few flyers around the Salem State campus (WMWM) ?
I'm sure that sooner or later you will find a good person, don't give up! 8)
30 years ago you could:
Start off as a board op, move to on air overnights, to evenings, to a bigger market day shift, to p.d., to a bigger market moving up and making more. Those days are over and not just for radio. Glad I was able to ride the wave!
Start off as a board op, move to on air overnights, to evenings, to a bigger market day shift, to p.d., to a bigger market moving up and making more. Those days are over and not just for radio. Glad I was able to ride the wave!
Giving up is not an option! I did not mean to single out Gen X -
more of an observation of many young'uns these days, who expect to
start at the top, based on nothing by way of experience. I am definitely a product of my generation
- high school class of '74. I should have gone to Woodstock, but I was only 13.
I felt it's impact, though!
Many times in job interview situations, my looks worked against me: I look like a kid,
but had been around the block a number of times, and knew what's what! I do know
that anything that can go wron, eventually does go wrong. When it all
hits the fan, I want somebody there who knows what to do next...
more of an observation of many young'uns these days, who expect to
start at the top, based on nothing by way of experience. I am definitely a product of my generation
- high school class of '74. I should have gone to Woodstock, but I was only 13.
I felt it's impact, though!
Many times in job interview situations, my looks worked against me: I look like a kid,
but had been around the block a number of times, and knew what's what! I do know
that anything that can go wron, eventually does go wrong. When it all
hits the fan, I want somebody there who knows what to do next...
How bout that, I'm 4 years up on ya. High School Class of 70.
Being the parent of 20 year olds, times have changed, most for the better.
The kids are smarter and wiser. They are willing to pay the dues if they see advancement, otherwise it's not worth it.
Back when I was in my 20s, probably like most of us we were radio career driven.
I would work weekends, miss out on Thanksgivings, Christmas, parents birthdays, family reunions, etc.
THAT is my one regret.
My kids put family first, above all else.
They clearly have goals and some have already graduated with impressive degrees and
high paying secure jobs.
Still, when given the option of working weekends, holidays, and the rest they opt to spend time with
family and friends. Kind of nice!
Being the parent of 20 year olds, times have changed, most for the better.
The kids are smarter and wiser. They are willing to pay the dues if they see advancement, otherwise it's not worth it.
Back when I was in my 20s, probably like most of us we were radio career driven.
I would work weekends, miss out on Thanksgivings, Christmas, parents birthdays, family reunions, etc.
THAT is my one regret.
My kids put family first, above all else.
They clearly have goals and some have already graduated with impressive degrees and
high paying secure jobs.
Still, when given the option of working weekends, holidays, and the rest they opt to spend time with
family and friends. Kind of nice!
Hey, if you're OK with grown children living in your basement forever,
that's OK by me! ;D ;D ;D
It is not the responsibility of any employer in any business to
give employees a case of the warm fuzzies. That is the
mission of a nursery school, or daycare center. Real life does not give
everyone a trophy just for showing up...
that's OK by me! ;D ;D ;D
It is not the responsibility of any employer in any business to
give employees a case of the warm fuzzies. That is the
mission of a nursery school, or daycare center. Real life does not give
everyone a trophy just for showing up...
;D
All kidding aside, one is a nurse. She works VERY hard 4 days a week @ 80G's a year, the other just finished a masters in education.
Maybe someday I'll need to live in their basement. ;D
All kidding aside, one is a nurse. She works VERY hard 4 days a week @ 80G's a year, the other just finished a masters in education.
Maybe someday I'll need to live in their basement. ;D
M
magpie
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Are you still looking for someone?
Yes, I am.
To 12 in a row - sounds like you did something good
with your rugrats. Congrats!
To 12 in a row - sounds like you did something good
with your rugrats. Congrats!
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