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Pink Papers are about to Fly

aqualung said:
I don't see cuts at WPRO-AM and the station has to rebuild itself. Maybe De Petro could go as he hasn't established himself yet. The few times I've heard him I don't see any big loss if he's replaced even by Imus. On the other hand if Mr Danman is right and The Score is vapor that means half of St Pierre's job is gone since he's PD there. They'll save a chunk of change just by eliminating all sports jobs.

Maybe people in the building that have been there a long time might have to do more multitasking and maybe more weekday voicetracking because of it. This is all happening in the major markets at this point anyway.

And I do see either The Score AM or FM or both going syndicated oldies. I saw somewhere on this board that it's a PPM friendly format but I can't find the headline anymore.

Aqua, Ron was PD at WRX during part of their good run and when they brought Imus in.
 
Yea Holand well I bought CDL at 9 dollars and 80 cents.. This is cause Soul Man had to ,HAD TO buy ABC. The stock is worthless just like Farrid and people like him.
 
I would imagine that DiPetro and Cianci are safe, even in spite of their large salaries. It all comes down to billing, and I would think that they both bill nicely for WPRO.

On the other hand, anyone on a music station is vulnerable. Corporations have realized that people listen to music radio for the music and not the jocks. PRO-FM, Lite and Hot will all be hurt badly. Talkradio and spoken word in general is a different animal, though, and in my best estimation the future of radio. You're going to see more and more AM talkers migrate to FM and those AM frequencies will be brokered.

Although, I also agree that 790 is pretty much buried and in the ground. They can't compete with a very successful WEEI on FM in Rhode Island.
 
It boils down to how many people at music stations really affect billing. Win or lose most just happen to be there at the moment and just get swept along with the successes and failures of any station. I agree that the talkers do affect it. I hate to get involved in a Citadel death watch but what I see possibly are:
PRO-FM mornings: Numbers are good. The only possible effect could be the producer job. They need a producer but it doesn't have to be someone who has an on air presence and has been there for years.
As far as the other time slots I really don't know. I mean, SOMEONE has to do those shifts.
HOT: Everyone is expendable
LITE: Afternoon drive and nights could be affected but I wonder if both Charlie Jefferds and Art Spencer could possibly be looked at as saleable. Could be.
I also see a possible downsizing of the news team itself or more experienced people being replaced by lesser experienced. Then there's Metro's contributions too so there's a way to get coverage with a smaller staff.
Then after it all happens it'll be time for the next round at CCU.
 
jeffryan said:
I would imagine that DiPetro and Cianci are safe, even in spite of their large salaries. It all comes down to billing, and I would think that they both bill nicely for WPRO.

On the other hand, anyone on a music station is vulnerable. Corporations have realized that people listen to music radio for the music and not the jocks. PRO-FM, Lite and Hot will all be hurt badly. Talkradio and spoken word in general is a different animal, though, and in my best estimation the future of radio. You're going to see more and more AM talkers migrate to FM and those AM frequencies will be brokered.

Although, I also agree that 790 is pretty much buried and in the ground. They can't compete with a very successful WEEI on FM in Rhode Island.

A) What makes you think DiPetro has a large salary? After all, he was out of work at the time he sought out WPRO? My guess is 80 - 90K. That's a far better deal then the Mayor.

B) How do you know what Buddy is billing? Yes there is a full spot load, but what is the average unit rate? My guess is Buddy is safe because he probably has an iron clad agreement for whatever the term is. I mean the guy is a lawyer. None of this 30 day severence stuff if you decide you don't like me anymore. YES, I think he is safe, but it will continue over time to be a stone cold financial mistake for WPRO. For Buddy to have ANY chance of making a financial score for Citadel, he must be in a drive time period where he can command a larger rate. This whole Buddy is done at 1PM "Goodbye everyone, we had a good show today." Then Ron comes on for an hour with a program called "The Buddy Show" is laughable! Who was on drugs when this idea was offered up? Mornings are out, because he already sounds tired at 10:00AM. Put Ron back AM Drive. DiPetro 10 to 2, then putty Buddy in PM Drive. Kiss Yorks a__ goodbye. Since The Score could soon be toast, you save Ron's PD salary and put him back mornings where he belongs and hope you get his audience share back. Plus, maybe one full time person in news GONE. Do away with all weekend live news. Fire Paul G (he doesn't program now) and have Ron handle those responsibilities.

C) Fire Barbara Hayes (if she hasn't been already) and pick up some of the experienced talent that's now available. That cluster has floundered on her watch and her lack of GM experience is showing. Hell, she couldn't even maintain the Public File. Speaking of Public File, one engineer has to go.

D) INCREASE commissions for sellers. YES, INCREASE commissions for all sellers and get some real top notch people and get out of their way. Sell for greater shares. Fewer sellers making MORE money.

E) The blonde with the huge tah-tahs in promotion, make her the promotions manager and FIRE everyone else. Hell what client and/or organization wouldn't do exactly as she says?

Just some ides to save money on the trail.
 
80-90K isn't a large salary? Maybe you could think WPRO should pay more but in terms of their numbers and who is doing the morning show I think it's more than fair. I do agree though that in the long run hiring Buddy for the money they pay him may be looked at as a bad idea. Not hiring him itself but in terms of what they pay him. Putting StPierre on mornings again is a good idea though.
 
Now we KNOW that Joint-Chinese is a WPRO insider!

Either that, or he-or-she is peering into the Promotions department window with binoculars...

JointChinese said:
This whole Buddy is done at 1PM "Goodbye everyone, we had a good show today." Then Ron comes on for an hour with a program called "The Buddy Show" is laughable!

Why not just put on a 1kHz tone?

BRACE YOURSELF.
Based on grim reports you'll read in boards here from other Citadel markets, this'll be rough.

Good afternoon (still morning here) from Minneapolis airport,
Holand Cooke

"Doh!"
Now you've got ME doing it.

Holland Cooke
 
I hate to see anyone at Citadel have a false sense of security right now. Just the guy who thinks he is safe will be the one who ends up getting axed this week.
 
What would you say to a Joint-Chinese?

What would you say to a Joint-Chinese who is OBVIOUSLY a 1502 Wamapanoag Trail insider?

If you're an-outsider-looking-in, what words-of-encouragement would you offer?
 
"Hmmm..."

S DANMAN said:
If Joint-Chinese were an insider, wouldn't you think he'd know how to spell the G.M.'s last name?

Joint-Chinese spelled it "wong?"

'Could have done so "occidentally."
'Might be feeling "disoriented" by all the rumors.
 
Skynet74 said:
The whole Radio industry seems to be going down the tubes. Perhaps it's just a reflection of the bad economy in general. Either way... it just isn't good.

Why not blame the corporate suits who feel that they have more experience than the people they've hired to do the programming?

If the emphasis is on cost-cutting (aka cheap programming)...it doesn't take a programming consultant to determine the result?

To paraphrase Joint Chinese: BAD SHOWS...NO LISTENAHS...NO ADVERTISAHS! ::)

argytunes
 
Re: ka-CHING

Holland Cooke said:
If you bought CDL Friday @ $1, and sold today @ $1.30, you made 30% on your investment OVER THE WEEKEND.

Except you're not investing, you're speculating. Big difference.

The more I think about this, and the more I talk with other radio people, I'm starting to rethink what I said about Buddy and DePetro. One of the Citadel talk talents in Washington that was recently shown the door was supposedly billing 10 times his salary. How in the world do you let someone like that go? The fact that Citadel spent a lot of money for Imus and they need this investment to pay off may have something to do with that. Now there's word that Curtis Sliwa's show may be syndicated. The whole WABC lineup may soon show up on a Citadel station near you.
 
Citadel just let go of a 14 year veteran with great ratings in San Francisco. So It seems that they are letting go all the highest paid veterans of stations regardless of ratings. According to that trend it looks like Citadels main objective is to clean house and hire all new people at a lower salary. Anybody making more than $75,000 a year probably needs to watch their back in the coming weeks. That goes for E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y. (Which includes all of you Citadel employees who are now reading this post from your cushy office on the trail.) The next time that phone rings it may signify the end to your job.
 
S DANMAN said:
If Joint-Chinese were an insider, wouldn't you think he'd know how to spell the G.M.'s last name?

Joint Chines is much like SkyNet, a non-insider who desprerately wants to be an insider. Their whiney bitterness gives them away. Joint presented us with a brilliant "insider" rumor months ago that Dan Yorke was getting a female co-host. ;D
Now I'm not an insider never have been and even I knew what bull#*@% that was.
 
CORRECTAMUNDO!

jeffryan said:
Except you're not investing, you're speculating. Big difference.

30% difference Friday-through-Monday.

The irony being: The Big Money is on-the-ropes, and The Little Guy's $10 online trades romp.
 
Evidence that NOBODY is safe...

Skynet74 said:
Citadel just let go of a 14 year veteran with great ratings in San Francisco.

And she was the Program Director's WIFE.

KGO/KSFO PD Jack Swanson -- whose KGO has racked-up more consecutive #1 12+ books than any-other-station-in-tarnation -- found out FROM HER that she'd been zipped.

Jack WAS-to-have appeared on the panel I'm moderating at next week's R&R Talk Radio Seminar in DC; but he Emailed me yesterday begging-off, under-the-circumstances.

So "who-will-be-next?" speculation isn't over-stated...
 
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