Razed On The Radio said:
Christmas is coming either you want it or not.
Retail stores are expecting lots of people on Black Friday.
I won't be anywhere near the stores on that day, that's for sure.
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Christmas is coming either you want it or not.
Retail stores are expecting lots of people on Black Friday.
I won't be anywhere near the stores on that day, that's for sure.
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MsMusicRadio
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What could full blast be? Live in AM drive?
Razed On The Radio said:
Now here's a thought: Maybe the economic meltdown will make people spend less cash on all the Chinese-made crap that Walmart and others sell (further hurting our economy), put up fewer garish and energy-sucking lighting displays, and spend more time and love celebrating Christmas, Hannukah, Kwaanza, etc. as holidays of spiritual, religious & family significance. Or maybe not.
I had already ceased listening to U-104 (my moniker for Q-105, the WithMustard Roast Beef Quotient) during the middays, due to the firing of Tampa Bay's 2nd cleverest & funniest DJ (Nancy is #1).
With continual mall music, they now lose me until next year. The all-Christmas music stunt is NOT an effective way for radio to re-invent itself and bring audience back.
BTW: will the U(Q) be playing any Hannukah songs? There are quite a few. (Didn't Mason once play guitar in a Klezmer band on Avenue C in Brooklyn?) And ARE there any Kwaanza tunes they could add to the "holiday" music playlist? Just asking...
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MsMusicRadio
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Qestionus:
1) Can't tell if you are serious about Marvin Boone. I never compared him to Nancy. Maybe I missed something. Is it the hair?
2) Again, how can you go full blast and spend less unless they are planning on VT'ing high profile people from WCBS,WOGL, or KRTH Considering that are more "full blast" than their Cox competition now----------?
3) For the record, once a station goes "All Christmas", I don't listen again until they stop.
1) Can't tell if you are serious about Marvin Boone. I never compared him to Nancy. Maybe I missed something. Is it the hair?
2) Again, how can you go full blast and spend less unless they are planning on VT'ing high profile people from WCBS,WOGL, or KRTH Considering that are more "full blast" than their Cox competition now----------?
3) For the record, once a station goes "All Christmas", I don't listen again until they stop.
MsMusicRadio said:
Answerus:
1) I'm talking about talent, not style (or hair). Best recent talents in this market are/were: Nancy, Marvin, Mike Reeves, Jack Harris, Chris Thomas...
2) I have no idea. The new marching orders are: Do less with less.
3) Total agreement. It's hideous.
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Ferreri
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Jack Harris is so good, he makes it sound easy. Same for Tedd. Chris Thomas truly was excellent, however, some of the credit has to go to 620/1250 programming philosophy. If Thomas was in a more structured setting, much of his personality would have been under wraps.
Ferreri said:
Yes, Chris was not as creative or wacky on his TV gig, and once subbing for Jim Rome he sounded truly stilted. But Chris was part of the funniest broadcast heard in Tampa Bay in the past decade, when he and Jack Harris co-announced the Outback Bowl with Whitney Johnson doing cut-ins from the sidelines. Just GREAT radio...
Chris' WDAE show was also made even better by the producing skills of Matt Sammon, who controlled all the sfx, soundbites, and calls.
How bout they do Classic Hits the way it should be done? The Fresh "format" is boring and makes you want to listen to your IPOD.
Q105 became a one man yuk-yuk fest and a snoozer the rest of the time when MD took over and has continued to bean embarrasingly bad example of what CBS has always put their franchise label on and executed with quality in their other Classic Hits markets. This all went way too long and languished.
In my view, Scott will install vital energy into the station and re-establish the spirit of a legendary radio station. It sure would be a major coup if he could put the great original players back in there...Schulman and Brooks in news, Mason back to afternoon drive, Cleveland and Terry in mornings, keep Bobby Rich. What great radio. LEGENDARY doesn't have to mean that something is over and can't live on...after all, how many years has radio had to "move ahead" yet can't seem to get out of it's own way?
Anything less IS just more of the same and not worth bringing a good mind in for. I think that if this is ultimately what radio has come to, especially in a crunch, when spending less means eliminating your PRODUCT, the whole biz should just build a stables of 300 or so people and pipe them all in to everyone of their stations. Either that, or put a freakin slot on radios so listeners can drop quarters in every fifteen minutes to listen to a real live person!
Q105 became a one man yuk-yuk fest and a snoozer the rest of the time when MD took over and has continued to bean embarrasingly bad example of what CBS has always put their franchise label on and executed with quality in their other Classic Hits markets. This all went way too long and languished.
In my view, Scott will install vital energy into the station and re-establish the spirit of a legendary radio station. It sure would be a major coup if he could put the great original players back in there...Schulman and Brooks in news, Mason back to afternoon drive, Cleveland and Terry in mornings, keep Bobby Rich. What great radio. LEGENDARY doesn't have to mean that something is over and can't live on...after all, how many years has radio had to "move ahead" yet can't seem to get out of it's own way?
Anything less IS just more of the same and not worth bringing a good mind in for. I think that if this is ultimately what radio has come to, especially in a crunch, when spending less means eliminating your PRODUCT, the whole biz should just build a stables of 300 or so people and pipe them all in to everyone of their stations. Either that, or put a freakin slot on radios so listeners can drop quarters in every fifteen minutes to listen to a real live person!
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MsMusicRadio
Guest
As bad as it may be for CBS, I think it sounded BETTER than any station I've heard in Tampa Bay since I moved here in 2001 with the exception of MIX with Bobby Rich, Larry London, and "into the night"
MisterNews said:
If Q is going to do the same stale specialized Christmas playlist (which includes songs NOT meant for Christmas, such as "Thank God for Kids" and "Angels Among Us"), then they might try to pull out the ol' Adam Sandler "Hannukah Song", where a mis-timed edit inadvertantly allows the F-bomb to let loose at one particular part of the song.
You can put all of the Q105 folks together and you will realize the station sucks. Adults sometimes confuse missing their childhood/young adult hood with something being better than it is today.
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MsMusicRadio
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The issue is not whether Q today is better/worse than it was 20 years ago or more. It simply is better than 107.3 is today.( not today because it is All Xmas---------but normally)
Thats funny. It's like comparing ground beef to ground turkey... and we all desire STEAK!
Personally, I like the music on 107.3 but can't stand the canned announcer. I like most of the live jocks on Q but the format is all over the road. Perhaps a fresh approach is what the station needs. In the mean time, I'll keep my iPod handy.
Personally, I like the music on 107.3 but can't stand the canned announcer. I like most of the live jocks on Q but the format is all over the road. Perhaps a fresh approach is what the station needs. In the mean time, I'll keep my iPod handy.
Wazzie said:
Well put.
[EDIT] As I said, while I do not begrudge someone their right to post their opinion, I also was a bit unclear at first on what was meant by "you can put all the Q105 folks together...". When the gentleman stated he meant Q105 air staff, I was still unclear as to whether he meant current or past airstaff. Since he referenced Q105 past and present, I felt that my question was a valid question. I still do.
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MsMusicRadio
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As an older adult who thinks everything used to be better----------tougher guys in the NFL, longer home runs, faster horses--------I am still puzzled by the Q105 statement. I can't look back on Q105 cause I am not from here---------but I can tell you that :
1) I think it still the best product in this market-------even without Marvelous Marv whom I never met
2) I still think WABC, WMCA, WLS, WCFL, and KHJ were better than anything today and so what!
3) Jimmy Carter was a good President
4) I still get chills hearing airchecks of Dan Ingram , Jim Stagg, and BMR.
Yeah, I wanna go back to cruising the Joisey Turnpike cranking up WMCA-----so does does make me bogus? I have a right to like Q105 and support whomever worked there and created this legendary station. So there! It's still the "New" Eagle---not the legendary Eagle. Q105 is up there with Q94 in Richmond, B94 in Pittsburgh, WAPP,WCAU, Z in NYC and other great stations that brought CHR to FM before most of them got gutted.
Long live Q105 and all those who made it great for so long and keep it great today.
1) I think it still the best product in this market-------even without Marvelous Marv whom I never met
2) I still think WABC, WMCA, WLS, WCFL, and KHJ were better than anything today and so what!
3) Jimmy Carter was a good President
4) I still get chills hearing airchecks of Dan Ingram , Jim Stagg, and BMR.
Yeah, I wanna go back to cruising the Joisey Turnpike cranking up WMCA-----so does does make me bogus? I have a right to like Q105 and support whomever worked there and created this legendary station. So there! It's still the "New" Eagle---not the legendary Eagle. Q105 is up there with Q94 in Richmond, B94 in Pittsburgh, WAPP,WCAU, Z in NYC and other great stations that brought CHR to FM before most of them got gutted.
Long live Q105 and all those who made it great for so long and keep it great today.
I was not clear. It looks like half my message was cut off by my fat finger syndrome. I was referring to past Q105 (circa 1980 to 1982). During that time period I could not stand the station. Mainly because they presented themselves as a top 40 and they were really an adult-top 40. In my opinion, they were an awful top 40. However, not a bad Top40/AC. Get my point? I also was not clear on the fact that I was not criticizing the on-air staff, talent-wise. Nobody was happier than me when Power 93 beat them in the ratings. It was unfortunate that they did not last longer in the fight against FLZ. It would have made both stations better.Ssummers said:
Today's Q really needs a wider playlist and I prefer Christmas music closer to Christmas time. They are off my presets until January. Also, I am one of the few on this board that believes that (with a few glaring exceptions) radio is better than it has ever been, and particularly in Tampa Bay.
I hope I cleared things up.
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MsMusicRadio
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That helps some. Many Top 40 stations from that period flirted with an AC leaning approach. That includes great stations like WLEE and KQV. It didn't always work. Jacor seems to have had an usual take no prisoners attitude (from what I read ) Q105 still lives on and the "power Pig" is gone --------I guess the bland FLZ is its successor. You can put lipstick on a power pig, but it's still a pig. And Scott Shannon still does AM drive "in the show". Q105 will always be both a cherished memory and a winner
well john, that clears it up for me, too. sorry for any confusion.
i like the station for the most part and i don't know the history of the station, just moved to tampa about four years ago. I know very little about the previous incarnation of Q105.
i am with you on the xmas music, started way too early and the doses are way too much.
i like the station for the most part and i don't know the history of the station, just moved to tampa about four years ago. I know very little about the previous incarnation of Q105.
i am with you on the xmas music, started way too early and the doses are way too much.
I was referring to past Q105 (circa 1980 to 1982). During that time period I could not stand the station. Mainly because they presented themselves as a top 40 and they were really an adult-top 40. In my opinion, they were an awful top 40. However, not a bad Top40/AC.
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I have to agree with you. Listening to airchecks of Q105 (of which I have many) from 1981 through 1983 (a.k.a. the Scott Shannon years) the station sounded very unfocused at times and relied heavily on AC and oldies and little in the way of personality. I think the station sounded better after Scott left (as well was before he got there.) Personally I think Q105 was at its best from late 1983 through late 1985. Coincidentally that's also the period when they had direct competition from Z98.
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I have to agree with you. Listening to airchecks of Q105 (of which I have many) from 1981 through 1983 (a.k.a. the Scott Shannon years) the station sounded very unfocused at times and relied heavily on AC and oldies and little in the way of personality. I think the station sounded better after Scott left (as well was before he got there.) Personally I think Q105 was at its best from late 1983 through late 1985. Coincidentally that's also the period when they had direct competition from Z98.
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