Question Regarding Market Boundry

[SuperRadioFan]

I take that as a no.

Actually, there are a whole bunch of Panama radio station photos on my website.

But you don't care, so why ask?

Speaking of Panama, you probably don't know who the most famous baseball player (still active) from Panama is because you're not up on American culture. When his time comes, he'll be a sure Hall of Fame electee (the baseball Hall of Fame is in Cooperstown, NY a place where you've probably never been since there are no radio stations having Cooperstown as their COL).
I'll give you a hint ... He plays for the most famous team World-Wide where many ppl (some not necessarily fans of baseball) all over wear the cap of this team.

Of course I'll save you the response

DE: I don't care about baseball

Oh and to put this back-on topic, what radio market is Cooperstown part of and how does that market compare with the Inland Empire?

 

[davideduardo]

Here's DE in front of a tower. Uh huh, looks like a Phelps Dodge.

Uh, Phelps Dodge never made towers... in fact, I never saw a tower made out of copper.

 

[zumahans]

Here's DE in front of a tower. Uh huh, looks like a Phelps Dodge.

Uh, Phelps Dodge never made towers... in fact, I never saw a tower made out of copper.

Uh, actually, they did, KTUC and KSUN (the old KSUN in Bisbee) had P-D towers with the distinctive P-D logo on them.

I didn't say it was copper, did I? Hopefully it was something more ductile.

And in the hallway at Columbia Square in Hollywood, there is (was? maybe KNX took it with them?) a bunch of commemorative advertisements saluting CBS for opening its new building in, what was it, 1939? One of the ads was from Phelps Dodge towers.

But nice shot of the portable tape deck.

Did this station also have the "all-bus-schedule-and-funeral-notice" format that you pioneered at Mucho Pinche?

 

[davideduardo]

Here's DE in front of a tower. Uh huh, looks like a Phelps Dodge.

Uh, Phelps Dodge never made towers... in fact, I never saw a tower made out of copper.

Uh, actually, they did, KTUC and KSUN (the old KSUN in Bisbee) had P-D towers with the distinctive P-D logo on them.

I didn't say it was copper, did I? Hopefully it was something more ductile.

And in the hallway at Columbia Square in Hollywood, there is (was? maybe KNX took it with them?) a bunch of commemorative advertisements saluting CBS for opening its new building in, what was it, 1939? One of the ads was from Phelps Dodge towers.

But nice shot of the portable tape deck.

Did this station also have the "all-bus-schedule-and-funeral-notice" format that you pioneered at Mucho Pinche?

Aren't you confusing this with Blaw-Knox? Phelps Dodge made FM and other HF antennas and transmission lines. Out of copper.

The only Phelps Dodge tower I know of is the one on Copper Square in Phoenix.

None of our LA engieneers have ever heard of a P-D radio tower. FM antennas, rigid and flexible coax, HF antennas, yes. AM towers, no. Towers are made of steel, not copper. I can't find any indication that PD even did steel fabrication of any kind, although they are now a leading supplier of nickel to the steel industry. Oh, and Phelps-Dodge also maufactured some beacon and lighting components, too, using copper.

 

[zumahans]

Please note, in the hallway at Columbia Square in Hollywood, there is (was? maybe KNX took it with them?) a bunch of commemorative advertisements saluting CBS for opening its new building in, what was it, 1939? One of the ads was from Phelps Dodge towers.

------>The only Phelps Dodge tower I know of is the one on Copper Square in Phoenix.

Good one, Davey. I had thought you were a dried up old gasbag without any sense of humor whatsoever. I guess you can pull off a wild guffaw after all.

 

[Loverboy]

Re: Hard to believe

A few points:

1) So you WERE programming an American radio station in 1972 and had no knowledge of 8-tracks?
Ever go into a Birmingham record store?

I was programming American stations or managing them from 1970 through today.

I stated before that 8 tracks were mostly an in-car device. How many portable 8-track players did YOU see?

David...remember this??

Most consumer tape machines in the 70s were 8-track, David, and were anything but portable.

DE: I never had an 8-Track, and did not even see one until they were "collectors' items" as they did not make much of an impact in most countries of the world.

2) The fact that you clarified who bought cassette records in the Panama City Airport duty free shop makes the attempt even funnier than I had hoped for.

Why would knowing that those who purchase at duty free are not local passengers so surprising? You must not travel much. [/quote]

Actually, I travel quite a bit. It's certainly NOT surprising that those who but things at the Panama City Duty Free Shop are not local. It IS surprising that you keep CLARIFYING it....like it has any relevency or anyone cares. No research in the world is based on what happens in the Panama City Duty Free Shop...not even the menu choices at the oft quoted Senor Sanchez' Restaurant.

3) I think I have an aircheck of you in 1972, but unfortunately I kept stopping the tape everytime the talking started...so I just have the songs.

Not very funny.

I wouldn't expect you to think so....that was for everyone else.

 

[zumahans]

Re: Hard to believe

Actually, LBoy, Davey might be on to something.

Question for you, El Pluperfecto:

Using your hypothesis that your photographic memory of inventory at the Panama International Airport's Duty Free Shop was representative of U.S. buying habits, Davey, what was the fastest selling brand of men's underarm deodorant in the United States in 1975?

 

[creativegenius]

Re: Yeah Right

Eduardo....Read it and weep...[size=10pt][size=10pt]Survey: 27% Say They Listen To Radio Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago[/size][/size].....Period.

 

[davideduardo]

Re: Yeah Right

Eduardo....Read it and weep...[size=10pt][size=10pt]Survey: 27% Say They Listen To Radio Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago[/size][/size].....Period.

Yes, but when quantified and stratified, those listening less are in 55+ and teen demos radio does not program for. In 18-54, compared to 2001, cume is essentially flat and TSL is off less than 5%.

Considering all the alternatives to radio, that is pretty healthy. The biggest changes have come from longer work hours, more leisure time activities, video gaming and true alternatives, not "clones" of free radio.

 

[davideduardo]

Re: Hard to believe

Actually, LBoy, Davey might be on to something.

Question for you, El Pluperfecto:

Using your hypothesis that your photographic memory of inventory at the Panama International Airport's Duty Free Shop was representative of U.S. buying habits, Davey, what was the fastest selling brand of men's underarm deodorant in the United States in 1975?

That was, if I recall, the year sprays with zirconium were banned. In that category, it was Sure, Secret and Arrid accounting for about 70% of the market, I think.

 

[zumahans]

Re: Hard to believe

----->---->Question for you, El Pluperfecto : Using your hypothesis that your photographic memory of inventory at the Panama International Airport's Duty Free Shop was representative of U.S. buying habits, Davey, what was the fastest selling brand of men's underarm deodorant in the United States in 1975?

....>That was, if I recall, the year sprays with zirconium were banned. In that category, it was Sure, Secret and Arrid accounting for about 70% of the market, I think.


Real men did not buy Secret, and you left Right Guard off the list.

It would appear your recollections of the inventory there might be a little, uh, off?

 

[Loverboy]

Re: Hard to believe

----->---->Question for you, El Pluperfecto : Using your hypothesis that your photographic memory of inventory at the Panama International Airport's Duty Free Shop was representative of U.S. buying habits, Davey, what was the fastest selling brand of men's underarm deodorant in the United States in 1975?

....>That was, if I recall, the year sprays with zirconium were banned. In that category, it was Sure, Secret and Arrid accounting for about 70% of the market, I think.


Real men did not buy Secret, and you left Right Guard off the list.

It would appear your recollections of the inventory there might be a little, uh, off?

Oddly enough, I found this out!!
Right Guard was indeed #1 selling, with Men, followed distantly by Brut and Arrid.
Secret was #1 sales with women, followed closely by Soft n Dry and Sure.
Zirconium sprays weren't banned until 1978. (Oddly enough while the Walkman was being readied for market).

 

[zumahans]

I see. Do David Eduardo was wrong?

Or, maybe:

Maybe there was some secret CIA lab connected with the Army's College of the Americas in Panama involving the secret use of zirconium, applied via underarm deodorant, that made passersby at the Panama Int'l Airport susceptible to messages from maximi$er delivered via cassette tapes, that explains everything..

 

[Loverboy]

I see. Do David Eduardo was wrong?

Or, maybe:

Maybe there was some secret CIA lab connected with the Army's College of the Americas in Panama involving the secret use of zirconium, applied via underarm deodorant, that made passersby at the Panama Int'l Airport susceptible to messages from maximi$er delivered via cassette tapes, that explains everything..

I am of course uncertain as to when it was banned at the Panama City International Airport's Duty Free Shop. Since they were ahead of their time in selling audio equipment, maybe they too banned the sale of chloroflourocarbons before anyone else. You know who would know for sure.................