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Regents put the Proposed KXBT sale on the August 22-23 on the Agenda

mmnassour said:
Scott...to my mind, yes they did "take over" your restaurant. My use of the term does not necessarily mean steal, you can "take over" something by legitimate means as well. Just semantics.

So let me make sure I'm clear about what your argument is, then: given your objections earlier, you're saying a willing private seller should not be allowed to sell to a willing buyer if the willing buyer happens to be a government agency? What if the willing buyer were a non-governmental nonprofit that would still take the station out of the "private business" model? How would that change the equation?

I'm thinking that BMP's role as the willing (and apparently eager) seller in this transaction isn't being fully taken into account here.
 
No, no, no, we're not communicating here! ???

I don't care what money changed hands, or who was willing, or whatever. My point is that the oldies station goes away and KUT replaces it. It's that simple. "Take over" means take possession by any means.

Then, as a separate thought, I don't like government agencies eliminating private sector jobs. KUT will use their own existing personnel with (probably) none of those who now work there. For that matter, it doesn't matter whether it's government or not--If BMP sold to a group that turned it into a 100% repeater, I'd be just as pissed for those who are fired as I am due to the UT sale.

Yes, I know BMP was in liquidation mode and that even if the stations weren't sold to UT, those jobs would probably have been gone anyway.

What can I tell you....a radio station that was approaching good (rare in this day and age) was shut down before it had a chance. That sucks, and so does life...sometime.

That's all.
 
Interestingly enough, a KUT employee came to speak at one of my classes at the university and made the prediction that commercial radio would basically not exist by 2015, yet public radio would remain strong. A student asked if her radio dreams were crushed and he said she would be fine if taking the public radio route, and went on to tout how KUT had much higher ratings than KGSR and typically fell in the top 5 in ratings. Goodness, I really hope this new station tanks. This market already has plenty to offer to the AAA crowd and the news hounds. How a top-40 market can't solidify a freakin' classic hits/oldies station is a difficult point to ponder!
 
theradioexpert said:
Interestingly enough, a KUT employee came to speak at one of my classes at the university and made the prediction that commercial radio would basically not exist by 2015, yet public radio would remain strong. A student asked if her radio dreams were crushed and he said she would be fine if taking the public radio route, and went on to tout how KUT had much higher ratings than KGSR and typically fell in the top 5 in ratings. Goodness, I really hope this new station tanks. This market already has plenty to offer to the AAA crowd and the news hounds. How a top-40 market can't solidify a freakin' classic hits/oldies station is a difficult point to ponder!

I would say by 2020 all AM/FM stations will migrate onto Digital XM signals and we will pick up all the stations across the United States, Community radio stations like KUT will be spaced farther apart to 98.9, and 99.1-107.9 will be reserved for encrypted police band, and broadband deployment for rural areas.

I am sending my opposition to the sale letter to the FCC by the end of this week, how about you?
 
willdav713 said:
I am sending my opposition to the sale letter to the FCC by the end of this week, how about you?

And the reason for your opposition will be...?
Filing opposition for the sole purpose of delaying the transaction might get you a nice legal bill.

The only question for the FCC to decide is whether UT is legally, financially, morally qualified to be the owner.
Since they are licensed for other broadcasting properties, they have already been vetted.
Format does not matter...its the 1st amendment right of the owner to program as they choose.
This is a done deal.
 
Iused2nothat said:
OXYMORON
: something (as a concept) that is made up of contradictory or incongruous elements.

Also...your xenophobia is showing.
"Texas became a “majority-minority” state in 2004, meaning various ethnic minority populations now outnumber Whites."
http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/tif/population.html

Wow - nice person. I assume you wouldn't be embarrassed to say things like that to a person's face.

UT is taking off an oldies station. If they put classical and or smooth jazz on it, I suppose it would be neutral trade. I'm not generally a fan of public radio - the leftist leanings in the programming sickens me because I'm obligated to pay for it with my tax money. I'd prefer it to be completely neutral if I pay for it. Music - like classical or smooth jazz is neutral. It would be nice to have that on KUT and leave the talk off. Or put talk where it belongs - on low bandwidth AM. Think AM is really dying? Just try to buy one, or get a new license.

As for Xeno - whatev - I don't speak foreign, that's all. So I don't give a ____ whether UT takes one of those over, they are blank spots on the dial as far as I am concerned. You are reading things in that aren't there.
 
theradioexpert said:
Interestingly enough, a KUT employee came to speak at one of my classes at the university and made the prediction that commercial radio would basically not exist by 2015,


What hoot! Does he know what name is on the side of KUT's sparkly new building? Has he ever heard of Clear Channel? Ah, the ignorance of those who are insulated from the real word can be amazing.
 
theradioexpert said:
Interestingly enough, a KUT employee came to speak at one of my classes at the university and made the prediction that commercial radio would basically not exist by 2015, yet public radio would remain strong.

The KUT employee is beyond delusional. While commercial radio is facing problems, it is not going away in three years. Get real.

And the future of Public Radio will depend on which politicians are sent to Washington. There are many political groups that would love to see Public Radio completely de-funded.

willdav713 said:
I would say by 2020 all AM/FM stations will migrate onto Digital XM signals and we will pick up all the stations across the United States, Community radio stations like KUT will be spaced farther apart to 98.9, and 99.1-107.9 will be reserved for encrypted police band, and broadband deployment for rural areas.

Not happening in only eight years. The FCC, the broadcast industry, and technology don't move that fast. Look how long it took to implement a full transition to HDTV in this country--about 30 years.

In 2020, the FM band will be pretty much the same as today, except for more signals crammed into a limited amount of space.

The bigger question is AM, which is in a death spiral. An expanded FM band (down to 76 MHz) into which many AM's would migrate, would be a more sensible goal.

I am sending my opposition to the sale letter to the FCC by the end of this week, how about you?

You are opposed to the sale because you want to keep the oldies format on 98.9. The FCC doesn't get involved in format issues. Think any other new owner of 98.9 is going to keep the format?
 
"plenty" of AAA and news is debatable.

As are NPR's "leanings."

NPR news audiences are split pretty evenly between ideological stripes and considered balanced. Even those who wish to defund it who have been interviewed by NPR admit they provide balance and depth.

Exploring the nuances of a story isn't "liberalism" - it's "journalism."

And NPR provides more real journalism than cable news or "news talk" radio which more often than not is "opinion" radio.
 
stevensonair said:
"plenty" of AAA and news is debatable.

Indeed...the only source of radio news in this market is Fox and KLBJ for precisely TWO minutes at the top of the hour on 590/99.7, also CBS (if it is still there) on 1370 at the top of the hour.

The rantings on the KLBJ AM morning program do NOT count as news. Neither does Jeff Ward, or anything else on the station. If I'm overlooking something, apologies, and I'd really like to know what it is.
 
rbrucecarter5 said:
UT is taking off an oldies station.

So you keep saying...without acknowledging that there exists a willing seller in this deal as well. What responsibility does BMP have in this deal, in your eyes?

Your statements elsewhere in this thread attributing "liberal leanings" to NPR lead me to believe you place yourself somewhere to the right on the political spectrum. How much freedom should a private company such as BMP have when it comes to deciding how to program its properties, and how (and to whom) to dispose of them should they choose to sell them? And keeping in mind that there's now nearly 40 years of FCC precedent that the government does not get involved in matters of format and programming, period, on what grounds would you impose a restriction on BMP's ability to change formats or to sell its property to a buyer who might change formats?
 
It's actually a good thing that BMP sold this turd. And yes, it's a turd. It's a great signal that doesn't serve the community, nor does it fill a void that's needed in the market. It has marginal air talent, a bland playlist, and very little that is compelling or interesting to the MAJORITY of listeners (check their ratings). Radiophiles and musicologists may like it, as do some of you that troll this board. But come on, this format and station, from "Big Talker" to this, is a joke. It's a bacon wrapped turd.

When BMP was operating their cluster of stations in hispanic-targeted formats, more than 150 people had jobs. Since their format "changes" in fall '09, and the significant cash loss that has ensued, that number has dropped to about 10 people. Once the sale is final, a few will move to the sports station they've sold off, one will go "back" to being a corporate schmuck in Dallas...waiting for retirement, and a few others will be out of work. They've had PLENTY of notice to find another station or choose another career, and I'd bet they'll be receiving a decent little severance when the oldies stop flowing. If we're going to make this about people losing jobs, let's not forget the hundreds that have been screwed out of their jobs by these idiots over the last couple of years, please, and not about a couple of fat cats (trustee, GM) that get paid, regardless. They'll sleep just fine.

Calling this format "important" or "relevant" for this market is a joke. The 50's/60's hole isn't relevant anymore--otherwise, someone else would have jumped into this format long ago. The rest of this "gold based AC" format (that's what it is, folks) is served by Magic, BOB-FM, and Jammin. None of these stations will "take" this format "as is" because it isn't relevant or able to be sold to large groups of advertisers. Nor is it consumed by large numbers of listeners. These others stations play a smattering of titles that are shared, but none of the owners of these formats will be dipping into this format full time. Sorry. Want to hear a great classic hits station? KONO 101.1 fits the bill. You can stream it. It's local...to San Antonio, very local, focused, fun, and serves the community. KXBT isn't even in the same universe as KONO..

On the topic of being "local" and serving the community...the FCC requires license holders to operate in the public interest and serve their community. Emmis, Entercom, and Cheap Channel still do an adequate job of serving the public interest. From Bikes for Kids to children's hospital fundraisers to donations and support, these stations serve Austin. When was the last time you saw BMP do anything besides sell beer at Shultz Garden or run back to back ads for gentlemen's clubs on their stations? Are they big donors at local events? Nope. Supporters of any cause, besides trying to find someone to buy these "assets"? yep. And if you're an advertiser, please don't fall for the campaign to "help" before the stations change format. Put your money on stations that serve their listeners, pay their people, and will be here next week.

Is KXBT locally programmed? Um, a vanilla "safe" list and 11 hours of satellite-fed programming each day isn't exactly local. Remove traffic (YNN) and weather (from Atlanta), and you have a couple of "local" jocks doing song intros and giving you the time. Oh, and reading a barter prep service or the news stories on the Yahoo home page. If that's "local" and "compelling" to you, then please set your radio buttons for all of the crappy 2 and 3 share stations and have a great day.

The new format on KXBT will serve the local audience, will entertain and inform with local content, and I'd bet more than 5 people get jobs out of the deal. And Border Media, a pathetic ownership group that was in debt up to their ears and couldn't sustain their "new" formats or make them profitable will magically go away, leaving new owners to create something different.

I'm all for that. Bye bye, BMP.
 
Iused2nothat said:
willdav713 said:
I am sending my opposition to the sale letter to the FCC by the end of this week, how about you?

And the reason for your opposition will be...?
Filing opposition for the sole purpose of delaying the transaction might get you a nice legal bill.

The only question for the FCC to decide is whether UT is legally, financially, morally qualified to be the owner.
Since they are licensed for other broadcasting properties, they have already been vetted.
Format does not matter...its the 1st amendment right of the owner to program as they choose.
This is a done deal.

My opposition would be that UT being the giant they are have almost a monopoly in the share of non commercial FM band programming.

If they were to share the programming with KAZI, I would be for it. KAZI is the only non commercial FM voice for the African-American community.

As a state institution UT, is required to satisfy Affirmative Action requirements. That also includes the format. Commercial radio is a different story. All I would have to show is disparate treatment to the other non commercial stations not owned by UT.

Also such a move would hurt advertising for the commercial radio properties up and down the FM dial. We all know you can't sell airtime on non commercial radio.

Legal bill? Bring it on! Can't garnish SSDI, nor wages in Texas! To delay programming? No.

To petition our government to seek redress of not having a reliable medium for the African American Community such as KAZI which is barely listenable, vs. a Predominately Anglo programmed Non Commercial higher power FM outlet you bet. If it simulcasted KAZI 50 % of the time, I am ALL FOR IT! For 98.9 to have 2 licenses commercial and non commercial so the impact on commercial radio advertisers is minimal, ALL FOR THAT OPTION TOO!

As for the 1st amendment issue, that applies to private citizens, not businesses, nor government. A police officer can't call a suspect a n word repeatedly, nor can a boss sexually harass an employee. You can't yell fire in a theater if there is not a fire (Holmes decision). There are limits to the 1st amendment.

These are valid points from an interested party (a taxpayer who works in Austin, Texas)

When I stand up for Community radio, yes I will stand up for the little guy and that little guy my friends is KAZI.
 
Format is not covered by "affirmative action."

The FCC does not intervene in formats or programming - unless there is a charge of obscenity or indecent material.

And you most certainly are allowed to sell underwriting on an NCE.

The new KUTX will create jobs and support the vibrant music community in Austin. An FCC complaint is a waste of time and money.

There are many options for finding the format you want - pursuing a complaint against UT will lead nowhere.
 
One thing that has been overlooked in all this is that Border Media really didn't exist. The whole company was "repossessed" for lack of a better term by IIRC Goldman Sachs. So this was a bank that was running things until they found a way to recoup their money. I know that some of you out there will miss the oldies format (because you mention it in every post on every topic and want every station to change formats to that) but I am quite happy with the way things are going. Instead of large companies owning every station in the market, we now have locally owned KOKE and sort of locally owned 104.9. I predict there will be even more. I also think that UT will program KUTX on a local level which is better than any CC station.
 
Well, after sleeping on it ;D, I have to admit that Austin will indeed be better served by a 100% locally programmed 98.9 than an oldies station. That doesn't alter my position regarding those people soon to be looking for work. But as for the content of Austin FM overall, this will be a plus in the long run.

But as to KAZI, does "barely listenable" refer to the signal...or the quality of the programming? I've heard it drop out around the area of 620 and 183 near Lakeline Mall but I've not had any issues anywhere else.

Programming, well, that's something else, of course.
 
Maize made a very good point about 1 thing, KONO is really a much better station than 98.9 and I don't think it gets enough credit on these boards for that.
 
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