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RTN Currently Off the Air

mrschimpf said:
Watching on WBAY-DT this morning...for two hours, they looped the RTN promo for two hours (!)...(WBAY hasn't touched the channel at all beyond flashing a 24/7 station ID to soothe the FCC).

ETA - Apparently the national feed is playing the station ID for Pittsburgh's WPXI-DT at the top of the hour now.
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During the two hours of "promo" time, couldn't they show anything more worthwhile? Like infomercials?

Apparently, RTN's has been a shambles since being booted from Little Rock. If these shenannigans continue, I don't see RTN surviving past Spring, unless RTN does a better job at their end. No doubt its affiliates (especially WFLA in Tampa) are kicking themselves for picking up RTN, and those not tet showing it are drafting their cancellation papers.
 
notalkallstatic said:
Just curious, since RTN Master Control has moved (no longer part of Equity), anyone know what kind of automation system they use?
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I don't know, but they use the same technology Equity has, as Equity has a patent on their cash system (and I am sure Equity would sue Luken in a heartbeat if they copied their techniques).

One of the reasons RTN was created was to put the CASH hub to use. Given how Equity's creditors are eating the company alive, I wonder who will end up with the Little Rock hub and the patent.
 
azumanga said:
mrschimpf said:
Watching on WBAY-DT this morning...for two hours, they looped the RTN promo for two hours (!)...(WBAY hasn't touched the channel at all beyond flashing a 24/7 station ID to soothe the FCC).

ETA - Apparently the national feed is playing the station ID for Pittsburgh's WPXI-DT at the top of the hour now.
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During the two hours of "promo" time, couldn't they show anything more worthwhile? Like infomercials?
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They don't even have two infomercials it seems. All they play is that godawful Bowser Oldies But Goodies collection infomercial.

I'm beginning to see why Gene Rayburn loathed him during the Match Game/Hollywood Squares Hour; enough time with him and you never want to see him again :eek:.

The first quarter Kidvid reports for the RTN affiliates are going to be a mess; I wonder if at that time that's where everything really falls apart. The subchannels depended on Equity in most cases to transmit the E/I programming in the RTN schedule, and even though it's the station's responsibilty to air the programs, they might pass on the probable fines to Luken and Equity if the FCC rules they violated the regulations, just to make a point even if they'll never be able to pay.
 
WUAB-DT 43.2 Cleveland has kept up the "The Tube is gone, it's not our fault, please don't call us" slide since the network died.

I haven't checked in with 43.2 on weekend mornings, but I'm pretty sure they haven't run E/I.
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
WUAB-DT 43.2 Cleveland has kept up the "The Tube is gone, it's not our fault, please don't call us" slide since the network died.

I haven't checked in with 43.2 on weekend mornings, but I'm pretty sure they haven't run E/I.
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As with so many FCC fines these days, you only get nailed - usually - if you admit to the problem on your renewal app. It's that very remote chance of getting nailed much harder for failing to admit to the problem that keeps most stations reasonably honest.
 
Scott Fybush said:
As with so many FCC fines these days, you only get nailed - usually - if you admit to the problem on your renewal app. It's that very remote chance of getting nailed much harder for failing to admit to the problem that keeps most stations reasonably honest.
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Maybe they think they get a pass for not actually programming the subchannel? :D

We are talking Reserve Square here...and Raycom doesn't seem to have any chainwide deals to replace The Tube.
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
Maybe they think they get a pass for not actually programming the subchannel? :D
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There may be an argument here - the FCC did rule, a year or so ago, that a station (a college-owned noncomm, I think) that was broadcasting only a dead carrier was not, in fact, "broadcasting" for the purposes of requiring a legal ID. So perhaps a slate doesn't count as "programming" for the purposes of E/I?
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
WUAB-DT 43.2 Cleveland has kept up the "The Tube is gone, it's not our fault, please don't call us" slide since the network died.
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Same with Tucson's KOLD-DT 13.3. It still IDs as "TUBE" on my TV.
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
We are talking Reserve Square here...and Raycom doesn't seem to have any chainwide deals to replace The Tube.
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This TV has been showing up on Raycom stations. It started off replacing WeatherPlus on WAFF and KCBD. It's now on WXIX and WXTX in place of the slide, has made brief appearances replacing the slide on WAVE ("may be coming soon" according to a source), and is coming to WSFX: http://img.lineupui.silicondust.com/snapshots/78/snapshot_7776278.jpg

I would not be the slightest bit surprised to find This TV on WUAB 43-2 some time soon.

- Trip
 
Scott Fybush said:
OhioMediaWatch said:
WUAB-DT 43.2 Cleveland has kept up the "The Tube is gone, it's not our fault, please don't call us" slide since the network died.
I haven't checked in with 43.2 on weekend mornings, but I'm pretty sure they haven't run E/I.
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As with so many FCC fines these days, you only get nailed - usually - if you admit to the problem on your renewal app. It's that very remote chance of getting nailed much harder for failing to admit to the problem that keeps most stations reasonably honest.
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Must be a Raycom thing, cause WAVE-DT 3.3 has done the same thing here in Louisville for quite some time too. I've had my converter box for 6 months and it has been consistent during that time.
 
tripinva said:
I would not be the slightest bit surprised to find This TV on WUAB 43-2 some time soon.
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I've seen no "This TV signs deal with Raycom" news items...it looks like they're doing this station by station. I wonder if the February 2 date could mean anything for WUAB.

And Scott...I believe that station you're thinking about was a TBN outlet...and that could well pave the way for Raycom to not have to do the E/I programming on 43.2.
 
THIS TV has also popped up recently on WNGS (Buffalo, NY). It was first noticed last week when infomercials were being interrupted by THIS TV programming for a bit and then back to infomercials and old movies of poor quality. Lately more programs with THIS TV's brand have been running in their entirety...
 
OhioMediaWatch said:
I've seen no "This TV signs deal with Raycom" news items...it looks like they're doing this station by station. I wonder if the February 2 date could mean anything for WUAB.
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Oh, I know there's no group deal, I'm just surprised by the number of Raycom stations showing up with This. It wouldn't be beyond reason to see This on some of them.

- Trip
 
Everything is back in synch in Seattle. The programming matches with the digital programming guide. It sure is nice.
 
w9wi said:
poledo said:
Can a station put 6 hours of E/I on their main channel and leave the sub channels alone?
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IMHO that certainly *should* be permitted ---

but it isn't. You have to run three hours of E/I on all subchannels. Drives me batty when I want to go riding on Saturday morning & the weather channel is running something else...
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Actually I believe you *could* run six hours of E/I on one subchannel and that would be good enough to cover at least a second. You *can't* run it on the main channel, if my hazy memory is right (I refuse to stoop to the level of using Internet slang like "IIRC" that I barely even know the meaning of), but you can run it on a single subchannel (or split it). YOUR government at work for YOU!
 
Grindlfan said:
Everything is back in synch in Seattle. The programming matches with the digital programming guide. It sure is nice.
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Here in Phoenix, KAZT 7.2 is (almost) back to normal, except that the scheduled programs actually air one hour later now (other than some of its weekend programs in place of "Unreliable Sources," which, unfortunately, I have a feeling is coming back soon). Maybe they're still trying to figure out what time zone AZ is in since we don't recognize Daylight Savings Time! Now, there's only one nit-picky thing I have to say, and that is their new Legal ID's don't mention "KAZT-CA Phoenix"

Now, only if the local cable company (Cox) could only pick it up...
 
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