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Rush to leave Cumulus! Hello KFI! And goodbye Bill Carrol!!
- Thread starter Bug on the rug
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Bug on the rug said:
KFI is not a Cumulus station, so no change in LA would be anticipated. And this does not affect Bill Carrol in any way, as far as I know.
(KABC is the Cumulus AM in LA... it does not carry Limbaugh).
...in fact, when John Rook programmed KABC (under CapCitiesABC ownership), he tried to sign Limbaugh up for the station. The GM for ABC's radio stations here rejected Limbaugh; Rook has since voiced great displeasure for Limbaugh's shenanigans in the last dozen-plus years...DavidEduardo said:
Rush is on KFI at present and probably always will be, despite loud and frequent on the air protests from Bill Handel. I think that Bill would prefer to do his shows a little later and take a chunk of Rush's slot.
Cumulus CEO Lew Dickey says he believes the decline in the Cumulus stable of talk stations has to do, in substantial part, to Rush's disgraceful comments on Sandra Fluke during the last election year.
Nonsense! While I cannot stand Rush, he is not the reason for the Cumulus failures. For your consideration:
KABC. Getting worse by the day (something I thought not possible), it is the Titanic of LA radio. Something that was, and could be again, so good and popular and profitable is a shell of it's former self. With a lead-off mornings of Doug ("I cannot pronounce names and am a trained broadcaster" McIntyre, he is terrible & getting worse by the day. His destruction of KABC's mornings is aggravated by the ever-aggravating T-Rae ("Mumbles and Giggles") Elmer who is no more a newsperson or reporter than Pat Sajak.
KABC fails badly the balance of the day. Why The Prince or Sage or whatever he calls himself is still on KABC's air during afternoon drive is a mystery. I think they just forget about him and turn off the audio monitors at the station when Larry Elder is on.
Dear Cumulus: Fix your stations in L.A., SF, elsewhere. Do some decent talk radio that is exciting, versatile, engaging. Don't blame Rush. He is likely just negotiating publicly for the benefit of his next contract anyway. KABC can learn something from Rush: I understand he takes calls! KABC: TAKE CALLS!
Nonsense! While I cannot stand Rush, he is not the reason for the Cumulus failures. For your consideration:
KABC. Getting worse by the day (something I thought not possible), it is the Titanic of LA radio. Something that was, and could be again, so good and popular and profitable is a shell of it's former self. With a lead-off mornings of Doug ("I cannot pronounce names and am a trained broadcaster" McIntyre, he is terrible & getting worse by the day. His destruction of KABC's mornings is aggravated by the ever-aggravating T-Rae ("Mumbles and Giggles") Elmer who is no more a newsperson or reporter than Pat Sajak.
KABC fails badly the balance of the day. Why The Prince or Sage or whatever he calls himself is still on KABC's air during afternoon drive is a mystery. I think they just forget about him and turn off the audio monitors at the station when Larry Elder is on.
Dear Cumulus: Fix your stations in L.A., SF, elsewhere. Do some decent talk radio that is exciting, versatile, engaging. Don't blame Rush. He is likely just negotiating publicly for the benefit of his next contract anyway. KABC can learn something from Rush: I understand he takes calls! KABC: TAKE CALLS!
Rush Limbaugh is the reason for Cumulus' ills? That's rich. Cumulus brass need only look into the nearest mirror to find the real problems with their company. Is Farid Suleman and his anti-Midas touch still involved with Cumulus after the Citadel acquisition? If so, I'd start there.
Alright, alright ... need to clear up a few things, in case some uninformed child or something were to read this thread and be confused:
Phew .... ;D
- Rush isn't leaving Cumulus. His syndicator is Premier Radio Networks, which is Clear Channel.
- Rush isn't leaving KABC. He's on KFI. He's always been on KFI.
- Clear Channel owns KFI. Clear Channel and Premier are BFFs 4EVR. He ain't leavin' KFI.
- Rush won't replace Bill Carroll. They are different time slots. Plus, Rush is on the lineup already.
- Rush is leaving WABC, not KABC.
- Rush is going to WOR because it's a Clear Channel O&O, and Clear Channel wants Rush there. But that's boring, so they drum up all the drama about 'hating' WABC to create buzz so the NYC listeners will be able to find him at 710 AM.
- Unlike the Politico article suggests, it's not like Rush is 'leaving the WABC building.' He broadcasts from his house in Florida.
- And finally ... Bill Handel does NOT want to go to late mornings. There is no money in late mornings. If he wanted mid-days, he could have mid-days. But he doesn't want mid-days. He doesn't want afternoons. He doesn't want nights. He wants mornings. The 7 o'clock hour alone makes more money than all of Bill Carrol's show.
Phew .... ;D
henry said:
I think CC will have a bigger problem in Chicago than NY, where Limbaugh has been on WLS since the day they dumped rock for talk. They don't own any major AM stations there, so their only chance of keeping him on the air would be to work a deal with Salem (WIND) or Tribune (WGN). I don't think they'd blow up one of their FMs for talk.
^^^ You make a good point Keith. Prior to the WOR deal, it seemed unlikely CC would put Limbaugh on any of their properties in NYC. Clearly CC isn't giving up on Rush. I really feel the WOR purchase was 99% about preserving Premier's premier show (pun intended).
And when tens of millions of dollars are involved, CC/Limbaugh are going to make as much buzz as they can, even if it's a bogus "ratings war" with WABC's ownership.
And when tens of millions of dollars are involved, CC/Limbaugh are going to make as much buzz as they can, even if it's a bogus "ratings war" with WABC's ownership.
TheBigA said:
Why should he? Rush knows he's still a lead dog in the AM talk radio front no matter when or even if he flips to another cluster. The real story here is how Cumulus is falling apart at the seams internally and they're throwing out strawman deflections to explain away it's crumbling destruction from within.
It seems, all of that debt Cumulus saddle up to with the acquisitions of Citadel and ABC/Cap Cities has finally boiled up into a now publically seen frothy mess.
Pun intended, the skies are looking grey for Cumulus.
Thanks for clarifying - I'm an outtatowner. Great convo nevertheless!
EJM said:
It's almost the exact same quote that appeared in the NY Daily News.
The reality is that he can say whatever he wants, because it's up to Premiere to handle affiliations. If it makes more sense for them to keep the show on Cumulus stations, and those stations still want it, then that's what they'll do.
henry said:
Right on all points except I never said that Handel wanted late mornings. What I have inferred from frequent comments he has made is that he would like something like 6 to 10 and perhaps do the five to 6 hour with just the rest of the crew. He covets only perhaps an hour of Rush's time.
Plus he has often commented that his ratings could be higher without Rush in the 9 O'clock slot. But Rush is important enough to KFI that they will not budge. They could I suppose delay his show but they don't. So Rush is not leaving KFI and of course never was on KABC.
Liberals want to believe that Cumulus' dropping of Rush spells the end of his reign. Wishful thinking but as you said Premier and CC are best friends, in fact they are family. So anyplace Rush is dropped he will have a home.
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