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Anyone get them who can give us an overview?<P ID="signature">______________
"He who looks under the bed once hid there himself." - Proverb of unknown origin</P>
 
Now that I've managed to get myself out of the floor and back in my chair, all I can say is what an embarrassment for Triad. Jack 98-3 dropped to the bottom and is tied with 103.9.

> Anyone get them who can give us an overview?
>
 
> Now that I've managed to get myself out of the floor and
> back in my chair, all I can say is what an embarrassment for
> Triad. Jack 98-3 dropped to the bottom and is tied with
> 103.9.


*snicker* *snort*

Not too late to bring back Oldies 98.3

G
 
Yeah, I did see the 12+ numbers online after I posted the question. It still doesn't tell the story but there's no way to whitewash a 1 (approximately) share is there! (Can I say that?)

I figured Jack might be a one book wonder, not a NO book wonder!

"We Play What We Want and You Listen To What You Want.. And It Ain't Us!"

Somebody at 1 Saint Augustine Place must be updating their resume' right about now.

> Now that I've managed to get myself out of the floor and
> back in my chair, all I can say is what an embarrassment for
> Triad. Jack 98-3 dropped to the bottom and is tied with
> 103.9.
>
> > Anyone get them who can give us an overview?
> >
> <P ID="signature">______________
"He who looks under the bed once hid there himself." - Proverb of unknown origin</P>
 
>
> Not too late to bring back Oldies 98.3
>
> G
>
Irony of Pat Garrett's last book in Savannah tying Jack 98.3, and with the worst signal anybody in that town had ever competed with. Further irony, All Access reports KHJ's Pat Garrett and WAPE's Hoyle Dempsey are on the Beach in Savannah. I have heard radio in that town and now I have seen the numbers! Something is wrong with that picture!!! No it is not to late to bring back Oldies 98.3, and it is clear who the players should be!!!
 
> >
> > Not too late to bring back Oldies 98.3
> >
> > G
> >
> Irony of Pat Garrett's last book in Savannah tying Jack
> 98.3, and with the worst signal anybody in that town had
> ever competed with. Further irony, All Access reports KHJ's
> Pat Garrett and WAPE's Hoyle Dempsey are on the Beach in
> Savannah. I have heard radio in that town and now I have
> seen the numbers! Something is wrong with that picture!!!
> No it is not to late to bring back Oldies 98.3, and it is
> clear who the players should be!!!
>

Congrats to our very own WTKS-AM... a huge jump for them. And if you didn't know already. Program Director/Morning co-host Brian Mudd left a few weeks ago to program 2 station for CC in West Palm Beach.

All 6 CC stations are in the top 10 for the first time ever too.

Other comments on a few stations...

WLVH - kicking azz. Gary Young will be getting huge offers soon.
WSOK - E. Larry is an icon to the black community and it shows.
WQBT - Back up after an unjust Spring book. Star & Buck up slightly from Russ Parr
WJCL - up from Spring, but Fall to Fall looks bad. I thing Gator is slowly cutting into them
WYKZ - Fall to fall, down slightly. Could have been the Christmas music on Nov 1.
WTKS - as I said early - huge jump. Big talk radio book overall.
WFXH - ouch. They are down for a few straight.
WGZR - growly. Country lowalty takes time.


Of course, 12+ doesn't mean diddly. Just bragging rights.<P ID="signature">______________
Russ
APD/Middays
97-3 KISS FM (WAEV)
Savannah, GA</P>
 
> Yeah, I did see the 12+ numbers online after I posted the
> question. It still doesn't tell the story but there's no way
> to whitewash a 1 (approximately) share is there! (Can I say
> that?)
>

I'm pretty sure you can say that (don't quote me, I'm not the law). The thing you can't say is that Jack got a blank-point-blank in the ratings.

You are right, a one share can't be manipulated, esp. in a small market...

I'm going to place a bet that Jack will last one more book. Though I would like to see a broad-based 60's to 80's oldies format there...might allow Triad to C.Y.A. a little.

Radio-X<P ID="signature">______________
Send lawyers, guns, and money...
The s**t has hit the fan...
-Warren Zevon</P>
 
> Now that I've managed to get myself out of the floor and
> back in my chair, all I can say is what an embarrassment for
> Triad. Jack 98-3 dropped to the bottom and is tied with
> 103.9.
>
> > Anyone get them who can give us an overview?
> >
>

AS I PREDICTED 2 WEEKS AGO "JACK" WOULD TAKE A BIG DUMP BUT TO THE BOTTOM OF THE CELLER? WHOEVER WAS BEHIND THAT IDEA SHOULD GET AXED!! WHERE DID THE OLDIES AUDIENCE GO? IT WASN'T 103.9 BECAUSE OF THE CRAP SIGNAL. IT WASN'T WLOW. PERHAPS MY FAVE, XM? WAKE UP TRIAD....YOU BLEW IT BIGTIME!!! WE KNOW, "IT WONT CATCH ON UNTIL THE SPRING RATINGS"....RIGHT!!! AND IF YOU THINK "COAST" WILL SATISFY THAT AUDIENCE YOURE DREAMING!!
NICE GOING CLEAR CHANNEL.....WHO NEEDS A GM?
CUME-LESS? HO-HUM.
 
> > Now that I've managed to get myself out of the floor and
> > back in my chair, all I can say is what an embarrassment
> for
> > Triad. Jack 98-3 dropped to the bottom and is tied with
> > 103.9.
>
>
> *snicker* *snort*
>
> Not too late to bring back Oldies 98.3
>
> G
>
All I can say is WOW. It's almost hard to believe some of these moves. I hung out with Mike Buxser's son the other night at the Wild Wing cafe before he left for Germany. We had damn good laugh about what the hell has happend over there. It would be hard not to be embarrassed to work at that cluster at the moment. It boggles my mind to as why they blew up Oldies 98.3 and then the whole Christmas music on the 4th of July and flip of WLOW!!!!! Those stations always had good billing, usually the top two in the building, and had VERY loyal listeners. Especially Bolton and 98.3. You would have to adjust WLOW eventually to coincide with a lot of your listners either dying or saving their pennies for the nursing home. But, to just blow it up is plain stupid. And JACK? It's a complete joke where ever it is. Jammin Oldies part IV if you will. Starts out great, then just goes into the tank one or two books in. Of course, it didn't even do that here. GOD, I'm still laughing! The only smart thing Neuamnn ever did, except for trying to pull of the whole wife swap thing, was to get off the ship before the iceburg hit. Or, is that a mushroom cloud I see! lol...
 
Hey since we're commenting on stations, how about the Cumulus cluster? Every station in the building went up? You don't see that often !!


> > > Not too late to bring back Oldies 98.3
> > >
> > > G
> > >
> > Irony of Pat Garrett's last book in Savannah tying Jack
> > 98.3, and with the worst signal anybody in that town had
> > ever competed with. Further irony, All Access reports
> KHJ's
> > Pat Garrett and WAPE's Hoyle Dempsey are on the Beach in
> > Savannah. I have heard radio in that town and now I have
> > seen the numbers! Something is wrong with that picture!!!
>
> > No it is not to late to bring back Oldies 98.3, and it is
> > clear who the players should be!!!
> >
>
> Congrats to our very own WTKS-AM... a huge jump for them.
> And if you didn't know already. Program Director/Morning
> co-host Brian Mudd left a few weeks ago to program 2 station
> for CC in West Palm Beach.
>
> All 6 CC stations are in the top 10 for the first time ever
> too.
>
> Other comments on a few stations...
>
> WLVH - kicking azz. Gary Young will be getting huge offers
> soon.
> WSOK - E. Larry is an icon to the black community and it
> shows.
> WQBT - Back up after an unjust Spring book. Star & Buck up
> slightly from Russ Parr
> WJCL - up from Spring, but Fall to Fall looks bad. I thing
> Gator is slowly cutting into them
> WYKZ - Fall to fall, down slightly. Could have been the
> Christmas music on Nov 1.
> WTKS - as I said early - huge jump. Big talk radio book
> overall.
> WFXH - ouch. They are down for a few straight.
> WGZR - growly. Country lowalty takes time.
>
>
> Of course, 12+ doesn't mean diddly. Just bragging rights.
>
 
> Hey since we're commenting on stations, how about the
> Cumulus cluster? Every station in the building went up? You
> don't see that often !!

Not hard to go up; when you're at the bottom.
 
> > Hey since we're commenting on stations, how about the
> > Cumulus cluster? Every station in the building went up?
> You
> > don't see that often !!
>
> Not hard to go up; when you're at the bottom.



And you're #1 in what demo?<P ID="signature">______________
SDMF
Stay primitive Savannah</P>
 
> > > Hey since we're commenting on stations, how about the
> > > Cumulus cluster? Every station in the building went up?
> > You
> > > don't see that often !!
> >
> > Not hard to go up; when you're at the bottom.
>
>
>
> And you're #1 in what demo?

Wow that touched a nerve and any station can be #1 depends on the demo your looking at in Maximiser.
 
> > > > Hey since we're commenting on stations, how about the
> > > > Cumulus cluster? Every station in the building went
> up?
> > > You
> > > > don't see that often !!
> > >
> > > Not hard to go up; when you're at the bottom.
> >
> >
> >
> > And you're #1 in what demo?
>
> Wow that touched a nerve and any station can be #1 depends
> on the demo your looking at in Maximiser.
>
Touched a nerve? I asked a simple question that conveniently was ignored?? It takes a real standup person to talk crap when they hide behind a screen name and an empty profile...It's amazing the negativity on this board....apparently a lot of it comes from those who aren't even FT radio peeps. It's comical, no sad actually. They can deny and hate all they want, Cumulus SAV did well this book and I am happy to have been a part of it.<P ID="signature">______________
SDMF
Stay primitive Savannah</P>
 
> Touched a nerve? I asked a simple question that conveniently
> was ignored?? It takes a real standup person to talk crap
> when they hide behind a screen name and an empty
> profile...It's amazing the negativity on this
> board....apparently a lot of it comes from those who aren't
> even FT radio peeps. It's comical, no sad actually. They can
> deny and hate all they want, Cumulus SAV did well this book
> and I am happy to have been a part of it.
>

As long as you post positive posts about your employer, I'm sure the fact you have all your info in your bio won't be a problem.

If you do have a problem...don't post it here...or they'll bounce you quicker than...uh...something quick.
 
> > Touched a nerve? I asked a simple question that
> conveniently
> > was ignored?? It takes a real standup person to talk crap
> > when they hide behind a screen name and an empty
> > profile...It's amazing the negativity on this
> > board....apparently a lot of it comes from those who
> aren't
> > even FT radio peeps. It's comical, no sad actually. They
> can
> > deny and hate all they want, Cumulus SAV did well this
> book
> > and I am happy to have been a part of it.
> >

And a congratulations should be in store!


> As long as you post positive posts about your employer, I'm
> sure the fact you have all your info in your bio won't be a
> problem.
>

Your point being?

Hey, I give him credit for telling all! Hell, I don't even do that!

In all seriousness, though, congrats should be in order...though I'm still scratching my head as to why Cumulus didn't put black gospel on 103.9...

Radio-X<P ID="signature">______________
Send lawyers, guns, and money...
The s**t has hit the fan...
-Warren Zevon</P>
 
> > > > > Hey since we're commenting on stations, how about
> the
> > > > > Cumulus cluster? Every station in the building went
> > up?
> > > > You
> > > > > don't see that often !!
> > > >
> > > > Not hard to go up; when you're at the bottom.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And you're #1 in what demo?
> >
> > Wow that touched a nerve and any station can be #1 depends
>
> > on the demo your looking at in Maximiser.
> >
> Touched a nerve? I asked a simple question that conveniently
> was ignored?? It takes a real standup person to talk crap
> when they hide behind a screen name and an empty
> profile...It's amazing the negativity on this
> board....apparently a lot of it comes from those who aren't
> even FT radio peeps. It's comical, no sad actually. They can
> deny and hate all they want, Cumulus SAV did well this book
> and I am happy to have been a part of it.

A little defensive? Again you misundertand a statement for an attack or misundertand a statement of truth for crap but everyone has their own perception. Don't make it personal and stick to the facts. And after your station went down in the last two books you should be happy about the one share increase. Congrats!
 
> > > > > > Hey since we're commenting on stations, how about
> > the
> > > > > > Cumulus cluster? Every station in the building
> went
> > > up?
> > > > > You
> > > > > > don't see that often !!
> > > > >
> > > > > Not hard to go up; when you're at the bottom.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And you're #1 in what demo?
> > >
> > > Wow that touched a nerve and any station can be #1
> depends
> >
> > > on the demo your looking at in Maximiser.
> > >
> > Touched a nerve? I asked a simple question that
> conveniently
> > was ignored?? It takes a real standup person to talk crap
> > when they hide behind a screen name and an empty
> > profile...It's amazing the negativity on this
> > board....apparently a lot of it comes from those who
> aren't
> > even FT radio peeps. It's comical, no sad actually. They
> can
> > deny and hate all they want, Cumulus SAV did well this
> book
> > and I am happy to have been a part of it.
>
> A little defensive? Again you misundertand a statement for
> an attack or misundertand a statement of truth for crap but
> everyone has their own perception. Don't make it personal
> and stick to the facts. And after your station went down in
> the last two books you should be happy about the one share
> increase. Congrats!
>


Stay on topic, we are not talking about the last two books(I wasn't even here). You can talk smack all you want, but I'll take the congrats for my work and the impressive results we earned, thanks. When people talk about people's bosses, co-workers, friends, it is personal because some people like the people they work with/for. Might be a difficult concept for chronically miserable people to accept? Keep being negative and hiding behind a monitor...sounds like a fulfilling life, enjoy it.

<P ID="signature">______________
SDMF
Stay primitive Savannah</P>
 
> > > Touched a nerve? I asked a simple question that
> > conveniently
> > > was ignored?? It takes a real standup person to talk
> crap
> > > when they hide behind a screen name and an empty
> > > profile...It's amazing the negativity on this
> > > board....apparently a lot of it comes from those who
> > aren't
> > > even FT radio peeps. It's comical, no sad actually. They
>
> > can
> > > deny and hate all they want, Cumulus SAV did well this
> > book
> > > and I am happy to have been a part of it.
> > >
>
> And a congratulations should be in store!
>
>
> > As long as you post positive posts about your employer,
> I'm
> > sure the fact you have all your info in your bio won't be
> a
> > problem.
> >
>
> Your point being?
>
> Hey, I give him credit for telling all! Hell, I don't even
> do that!
>
> In all seriousness, though, congrats should be in
> order...though I'm still scratching my head as to why
> Cumulus didn't put black gospel on 103.9...
>
> Radio-X
>


C'mon, do we really need another urban/black/rhythmic/gospel station in this market? There are plenty of choices for the Savannah listener. It's time we ego-maniac radio people put our egos aside and start doing some good radio in this town so the listener won't turn to the many other media choices out there and leave us all without a job. Then maybe we can use this board to compliment each other on great breaks, great bits, great promotions etc. We all know you can make any ratings book look good, but here are the facts about the Savannah ratings.....The Beat and LOVE can't beat E93,WJCL has consistently been the best country station in the market,WIXV and WRHQ are the only rock stations that matter,KISS has been flat for 4 books straight, and let's be honest...the 1 and 2 share stations aren't a factor in the market. The real story in any market are the stations that stay at the top and the ones that go from worst to first. The mediocre 4 share stations will always be mediocre 4 share stations.
 
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