• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

SUCKiN 107.5

J

jeff715

Guest
Not only is the MOViN format tanking here - it is in several markets. Especially in LA. 0.7 (12+) and they have Rick Dees in the morning and jocks all day.
 
Question is, is it making any money?
 
My guess is that it is not making any revenue and won't be lasting much longer. These new formats in new markets sometimes take time to catch on, but it seems like this one is floundering. Very similar to JACK radio. Some markets it's doing decent and in others it's belly up. We'll see what happens. I wouldn't hold my breath though. :D
 
At one point, I was one MOViN's biggest fans, but I have to admit, right now, I'm even disappointed. I thought there would be personalities by now: None. I thought the format was going to be 80's, 90's, and today: I just heard the Bee Gees. It's nothing like what I was expecting it to be, and I hate that.
 
Like I said before,when you study how it was set up and what it was doing in other markets,it would sink faster than a" submarine with a screen door". I really don't think CBS puts forth an effort in these "wonder formats" Like Free FM, and Movin. Its all just a stop gap,and it appears the gap is widening.
 
In the San Francisco Bay Area (market #4), CBS flipped Classic Hits KFRC to "MOViN" last September. Previously, KFRC had respectable ratings, and usually finished just out of the top 10. Now its ratings are down by more than half - to 1.1. They have good company though, since CBS's 3 other underperforming FM stations rate just over or under that. Only KCBS - their All News AM - is getting good ratings, as it has for many years. Finally, after 5 months, MOViN has added a morning show, but still have no other on-air staff.

The reason for the low ratings seems to be obvious - the market has too many other stations playing urban hit music, either new, old, or a combination of both. The big winner from all this appears to be KOIT, the "lite" rock station, which has widened its lead as the #1 music station since KFRC switched to MOViN.
 
One juke-box radio station like Jack might be enough for each market.

My ipod and cd player in the car never play songs I don't like and they're commercial-free. I'll listen to commercials if the station will provide a little entertainment and/or information occasionally.
 
VOXPOP said:
One juke-box radio station like Jack might be enough for each market.

My ipod and cd player in the car never play songs I don't like and they're commercial-free. I'll listen to commercials if the station will provide a little entertainment and/or information occasionally.

Good Point!
Perhaps programmers should stop trying to make their stations sound like an ipod and put a little entertainment on. Radio ain't no Ipod and vice versa.
 
I like this radio station when it was The Oasis. The Oasis is a whole better than this. After all, The Oasis was MY favorite station in Big D. I think CC would flip Mix 102.9 for Smooth Jazz. This happens to be a missing format, and it deserves to have some room.
 
If we get Smooth Jazz back on DFW's airwaves no matter what frequency within less than a year when it went off the air, I will consider it a small miracle.

Dallas radio TOTALLY SUCKS !!
 
I wonder if the problem with the station is the imaging - not the music.

It seems to me anyway that they spend too much time telling you how to feel.

Does this bother anyone else?
 
From the T.A.B website:

Description: ARE YOU READY TO MOVE DALLAS- FORT WORTH?
The new MOViN’ 107.5 in Dallas, TX is seeking talented, outgoing, fun, upbeat, energetic air personalities for morning drive, middays and evenings. Send resume and demo to:D[email protected], Attention Dept W2, EOE, no phone calls.


Translation: Can you read liner cards? Will you work cheap? Can you fog a mirror?
 
I LOVE to have a good job! This is ONE job I would really like! Now-I think KR&B might make the big switch, but It's a low-power station, just like K-Soul-which also plays Urban AC. One of these two should move up to a full-powered frequency, like K-Soul did with 102.1-Which at that time it was called Magic 102.
 
EasyPeazy said:
I wonder if the problem with the station is the imaging - not the music.

It seems to me anyway that they spend too much time telling you how to feel.

Does this bother anyone else?

It IS the music. Maybe at first it was kinda cute but it has no staying power.

The Time - Jungle Love
Prince - When Dove's Cry
Sir Mix-A-Lot - Baby Got Back
Pras - Ghetto Superstar
Will Smith - Men In Black
Cameo - Word Up
2Pac - California Love
Madonna & Justin Timberlake every hour (or so it seems) Ugh!

Let's compare that crap to what has just played on WNUA Smooth Jazz - Chicago

Peter White - The Closer I Get To You
Mindi Abair - Bloom
The Whispers - And The Beat Goes On
Kim Pensyl - That's The Way Of The World
Kenny G - Northern Lights
Down To The Bone - Staten Island Groove
Lee Ritenour - Forget Me Nots
Paul Taylor - On The Move
Anita Baker - Fairy Tales
Steve Cole - Everyday
Paul Hardcastle - Rainforest

Now, which do you think has more TSL?
 
jeff715 said:
EasyPeazy said:
I wonder if the problem with the station is the imaging - not the music.

It seems to me anyway that they spend too much time telling you how to feel.

Does this bother anyone else?

It IS the music. Maybe at first it was kinda cute but it has no staying power.

The Time - Jungle Love
Prince - When Dove's Cry
Sir Mix-A-Lot - Baby Got Back
Pras - Ghetto Superstar
Will Smith - Men In Black
Cameo - Word Up
2Pac - California Love
Madonna & Justin Timberlake every hour (or so it seems) Ugh!

Let's compare that crap to what has just played on WNUA Smooth Jazz - Chicago

Peter White - The Closer I Get To You
Mindi Abair - Bloom
The Whispers - And The Beat Goes On
Kim Pensyl - That's The Way Of The World
Kenny G - Northern Lights
Down To The Bone - Staten Island Groove
Lee Ritenour - Forget Me Nots
Paul Taylor - On The Move
Anita Baker - Fairy Tales
Steve Cole - Everyday
Paul Hardcastle - Rainforest

Now, which do you think has more TSL?

Depends on the listener. I'm not much of a smooth jazz fan, so my TSL would be zero.

Smooth jazz might become a more viable format with PPM. I worked at a station that had just flipped from smooth jazz to another format. The old staff that remained said people turned out in droves for station events, concerts, etc. but apparently couldn't be bothered with filling out diaries.

Since it's a viable at work format and AC formats seem to be getting a boost from PPM, I would guess smooth jazz will do much better under PPM too. CBS should have waited a bit to pull the trigger on this one.
 
grantchester said:
From the T.A.B website:

Description: ARE YOU READY TO MOVE DALLAS- FORT WORTH?
The new MOViN’ 107.5 in Dallas, TX is seeking talented, outgoing, fun, upbeat, energetic air personalities for morning drive, middays and evenings. Send resume and demo to:D[email protected], Attention Dept W2, EOE, no phone calls.


Translation: Can you read liner cards? Will you work cheap? Can you fog a mirror?

I think they ran that ad on TAB or somewhere else about 8 weeks ago. Probably just an EEOC thing. I know of at least 10 people who have gone for a job at Movin' NONE of them got a call back and each and everyone was a stellar talent. Go Figure ::)
 
ITs EOE.Their minds are already made up who they want, and it ain't here.
 
JayDavis said:
If we get Smooth Jazz back on DFW's airwaves no matter what frequency within less than a year when it went off the air, I will consider it a small miracle.

Dallas radio TOTALLY SUCKS !!

Yes, the Lowest Common Denominator Formula SUCKS for most music lovers.....

DALLAS RADIO IS A CULTURAL WASTELAND !!!!! And that wasteland is now sperad out over more genres than ever before !

I'M SO UN--IMPRESSED!
 
Aw, Rover, there's still some good stuff on the air. KTCU and KNTU have some decent tunes. KERA has a fellow on Sunday nights who does a free-form eclectic show. KNON has a variety of formats, and there's always something interesting coming on KAAM. Sure, the golden era of KZEW/Q102/KAMC/ et al is over, but it's not all bad. Still, don't you wish they'd figure out how to program to the Highest Common Denominator?

(Moderator: when the paramedics encounter someone with no apparent vital signs, they will put a piece of mirror under the nose. If condensation appears, that means he is still breathing. What did you think I meant by "Fog A Mirror"?)
g
 
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.


Back
Top Bottom