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D1075
Guest
> Nothing major. WKSC and WBBM-FM are closer and closer to
> each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
>
WCKG and WZZN continue to flounder at the bottom. They are perfect candidates for oldies, it would give PR for Infinity and ABC couldn't possibly do worse with that format. Also notice Power 92 keeps crashing and a 4 share gap exists between them and WGCI, maybe The Groove needs to be resurrected on either 92.3 or 106.3
> each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
>
WCKG and WZZN continue to flounder at the bottom. They are perfect candidates for oldies, it would give PR for Infinity and ABC couldn't possibly do worse with that format. Also notice Power 92 keeps crashing and a 4 share gap exists between them and WGCI, maybe The Groove needs to be resurrected on either 92.3 or 106.3
The station that gave wgci a run for its money back in 2000... is now at the bottom of the hill... CHICAGO NEEDS A NEW URBAN STATION!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > Nothing major. WKSC and WBBM-FM are closer and closer to
> > each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
> >
> WCKG and WZZN continue to flounder at the bottom. They are
> perfect candidates for oldies, it would give PR for Infinity
> and ABC couldn't possibly do worse with that format. Also
> notice Power 92 keeps crashing and a 4 share gap exists
> between them and WGCI, maybe The Groove needs to be
> resurrected on either 92.3 or 106.3
>
> > Nothing major. WKSC and WBBM-FM are closer and closer to
> > each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
> >
> WCKG and WZZN continue to flounder at the bottom. They are
> perfect candidates for oldies, it would give PR for Infinity
> and ABC couldn't possibly do worse with that format. Also
> notice Power 92 keeps crashing and a 4 share gap exists
> between them and WGCI, maybe The Groove needs to be
> resurrected on either 92.3 or 106.3
>
T
-TJ-
Guest
Re: power 92 rant like usual (starting to feel like BCR posts LOL)
<font color=3333ff>I'd love to see them drop most major label music and do the local thing. Turn all the music they play for ONE HOUR on Sunday nights into REGULAR ROTATION. Either that, or go all rap. "Rap Radio 950AM WJPC" .....meet..... Chicago's Hip Hop Power 92.
I also think it's time to dump "Todays Hottest Music" as well as "#1 In The Streets" and get NEW imaging! Bring it back to 1994 with "Where Hip Hop Lives" and skew 18-34!!!!!
They MUST be "The All New Power 92 Where Hip Hop Lives." And for geezus, bring back Doug Banks.
Only station that dropped most major lables and went local was Hot 107.1 Memphis in the last 2 years and it was nice. Now, they are doing alot of throwbacks along with some local and some mainstream stuff.
Must be STILL doin something right if the "little station that could" is killing a 100kw signal (the new Power 99 is getting SMASHED!! HAHA)
I gotta idea, how about clean house? Bring in a new PD and new MD that are not "comfortable" in their positions and know how to change the direction of the station.
I've had a Power bumper sticker on my car since 2001, and ya know what? I only do it because I always got the back of the underdog. But I've really lost hope.
Maybe I should post some of my 106 Jamz tapes online.
</font>
<font color=3333ff>I'd love to see them drop most major label music and do the local thing. Turn all the music they play for ONE HOUR on Sunday nights into REGULAR ROTATION. Either that, or go all rap. "Rap Radio 950AM WJPC" .....meet..... Chicago's Hip Hop Power 92.
I also think it's time to dump "Todays Hottest Music" as well as "#1 In The Streets" and get NEW imaging! Bring it back to 1994 with "Where Hip Hop Lives" and skew 18-34!!!!!
They MUST be "The All New Power 92 Where Hip Hop Lives." And for geezus, bring back Doug Banks.
Only station that dropped most major lables and went local was Hot 107.1 Memphis in the last 2 years and it was nice. Now, they are doing alot of throwbacks along with some local and some mainstream stuff.
Must be STILL doin something right if the "little station that could" is killing a 100kw signal (the new Power 99 is getting SMASHED!! HAHA)
I gotta idea, how about clean house? Bring in a new PD and new MD that are not "comfortable" in their positions and know how to change the direction of the station.
I've had a Power bumper sticker on my car since 2001, and ya know what? I only do it because I always got the back of the underdog. But I've really lost hope.
Maybe I should post some of my 106 Jamz tapes online.
</font>
L
Large_106
Guest
> Nothing major. WKSC and WBBM-FM are closer and closer to
> each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
>
B96 is crashing and burning right now, and it's been that way since at least the Fall book. Something's got to change over there.
I'd like to see them bring in Scott Tyler and Java Joel and slam Kiss for letting them go, but Todd probably has too much pride for that and Erik is too, um, attached to the night show to let them go.
> each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
>
B96 is crashing and burning right now, and it's been that way since at least the Fall book. Something's got to change over there.
I'd like to see them bring in Scott Tyler and Java Joel and slam Kiss for letting them go, but Todd probably has too much pride for that and Erik is too, um, attached to the night show to let them go.
L
Large_106
Guest
> Nothing major. WKSC and WBBM-FM are closer and closer to
> each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
>
Also, 9FM is holding steady, as is WCPT. Newsweb is really pushing 850 with bus billboards these days. With the 820 night pattern in the works, I wish they'd put AAR on 820 and the religious programming on 850 (since they also have 950) but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen.
Question to Newsweb: why not simulcast WCPT on 92.7 in Kankakee (WCPT-FM?)
> each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
>
Also, 9FM is holding steady, as is WCPT. Newsweb is really pushing 850 with bus billboards these days. With the 820 night pattern in the works, I wish they'd put AAR on 820 and the religious programming on 850 (since they also have 950) but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen.
Question to Newsweb: why not simulcast WCPT on 92.7 in Kankakee (WCPT-FM?)
Re: power 92 rant like usual (starting to feel like BCR posts LOL)
Hip Hop is done for on the radio. It's not sellable in Chicago. It's played out, cliche', boring, tired and lame. The number's would be the same. It's not like back in the days when people were all about the "hip hop scene". When 106 Jamz was on there weren't three other stations playing the same music as them. Hip Hop and R&B weren't MAINSTREAM the way are now.Now, there's more scenes, people are more splintered. Power needs to become what a friend of mine used to call "The Rhythm And Beat Of Chicago". They're never going to beat GCI and 106.3? Wow, put a fork in it, they destroyed a great idea.
> I'd love to see them drop most major label music and do the
> local thing. Turn all the music they play for ONE HOUR on
> Sunday nights into REGULAR ROTATION. Either that, or go
> all rap. "Rap Radio 950AM WJPC" .....meet..... Chicago's
> Hip Hop Power 92.
>
> I also think it's time to dump "Todays Hottest Music" as
> well as "#1 In The Streets" and get NEW imaging! Bring it
> back to 1994 with "Where Hip Hop Lives" and skew 18-34!!!!!
>
> They MUST be "The All New Power 92 Where Hip Hop Lives."
> And for geezus, bring back Doug Banks.
>
> Only station that dropped most major lables and went local
> was Hot 107.1 Memphis in the last 2 years and it was nice.
> Now, they are doing alot of throwbacks along with some local
> and some mainstream stuff.
>
> Must be STILL doin something right if the "little station
> that could" is killing a 100kw signal (the new Power 99 is
> getting SMASHED!! HAHA)
>
> I gotta idea, how about clean house? Bring in a new PD and
> new MD that are not "comfortable" in their positions and
> know how to change the direction of the station.
>
> I've had a Power bumper sticker on my car since 2001, and ya
> know what? I only do it because I always got the back of
> the underdog. But I've really lost hope.
>
> Maybe I should post some of my 106 Jamz tapes online.
>
Hip Hop is done for on the radio. It's not sellable in Chicago. It's played out, cliche', boring, tired and lame. The number's would be the same. It's not like back in the days when people were all about the "hip hop scene". When 106 Jamz was on there weren't three other stations playing the same music as them. Hip Hop and R&B weren't MAINSTREAM the way are now.Now, there's more scenes, people are more splintered. Power needs to become what a friend of mine used to call "The Rhythm And Beat Of Chicago". They're never going to beat GCI and 106.3? Wow, put a fork in it, they destroyed a great idea.
> I'd love to see them drop most major label music and do the
> local thing. Turn all the music they play for ONE HOUR on
> Sunday nights into REGULAR ROTATION. Either that, or go
> all rap. "Rap Radio 950AM WJPC" .....meet..... Chicago's
> Hip Hop Power 92.
>
> I also think it's time to dump "Todays Hottest Music" as
> well as "#1 In The Streets" and get NEW imaging! Bring it
> back to 1994 with "Where Hip Hop Lives" and skew 18-34!!!!!
>
> They MUST be "The All New Power 92 Where Hip Hop Lives."
> And for geezus, bring back Doug Banks.
>
> Only station that dropped most major lables and went local
> was Hot 107.1 Memphis in the last 2 years and it was nice.
> Now, they are doing alot of throwbacks along with some local
> and some mainstream stuff.
>
> Must be STILL doin something right if the "little station
> that could" is killing a 100kw signal (the new Power 99 is
> getting SMASHED!! HAHA)
>
> I gotta idea, how about clean house? Bring in a new PD and
> new MD that are not "comfortable" in their positions and
> know how to change the direction of the station.
>
> I've had a Power bumper sticker on my car since 2001, and ya
> know what? I only do it because I always got the back of
> the underdog. But I've really lost hope.
>
> Maybe I should post some of my 106 Jamz tapes online.
>
Notice how B96's drop is what allowed Kiss to get closer. That says it has nothing to do with what Kiss is doing, it has everything to do with what B96 is losing. Kiss actually lost numbers in this trend and yet gained on B96 because B96 fell even more. I wouldn't be too happy if I were Kiss either. The product is not gaining ground it's just losing less ground.
> > Nothing major. WKSC and WBBM-FM are closer and closer to
> > each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
> >
> Also, 9FM is holding steady, as is WCPT. Newsweb is really
> pushing 850 with bus billboards these days. With the 820
> night pattern in the works, I wish they'd put AAR on 820 and
> the religious programming on 850 (since they also have 950)
> but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen.
>
> Question to Newsweb: why not simulcast WCPT on 92.7 in
> Kankakee (WCPT-FM?)
>
> > Nothing major. WKSC and WBBM-FM are closer and closer to
> > each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
> >
> Also, 9FM is holding steady, as is WCPT. Newsweb is really
> pushing 850 with bus billboards these days. With the 820
> night pattern in the works, I wish they'd put AAR on 820 and
> the religious programming on 850 (since they also have 950)
> but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen.
>
> Question to Newsweb: why not simulcast WCPT on 92.7 in
> Kankakee (WCPT-FM?)
>
S
Shizam
Guest
WKSC
> I wouldn't be too happy if I were Kiss
> either. The product is not gaining ground it's just losing
> less ground.
That would be on the PD....for bringing in what he's got now after what he had. Like this funny guy at night? A hot girl check in every day? Kiss targets females. Do these females want to listen to other "hot girls" checking in? I'm a guy and I don't even want to hear that. If I did, I would drive around in my car and try and pick up all the high school stations out there.
Would guys want to hear a hot stud check in on the Zone? Most wouldn't.<P ID="signature">______________
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> I wouldn't be too happy if I were Kiss
> either. The product is not gaining ground it's just losing
> less ground.
That would be on the PD....for bringing in what he's got now after what he had. Like this funny guy at night? A hot girl check in every day? Kiss targets females. Do these females want to listen to other "hot girls" checking in? I'm a guy and I don't even want to hear that. If I did, I would drive around in my car and try and pick up all the high school stations out there.
Would guys want to hear a hot stud check in on the Zone? Most wouldn't.<P ID="signature">______________
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Power, B, and Kiss
Here are my comments about each station below:
Power: Peaked last fall. Biggest mistake is changing what was not broken in Doug Banks. That morning show has been a disaster now. They steal a GCI employee only for him to leave months later. Shows you something is not right. Donnie DeVoe is about the only personality doing well.
I think they need to make a decision. Stay urban, go rhythmic to compete directly with B 96 which they could win that war, or go all hip-hop. I think the mixers are the only reason why they have not fallen further. They have some of the hardest working mixers in Chicago and beats B 96 and GCI hands down on the house music! Use that to your advantage!
B 96: I think they need to change something in order to re-spark some interest. Maybe overhaul the Lunch Party or cancel it alltogether if they are not going to add new mixes on a more consistent basis. I think it has sounded repititious since it began. By repititious I do not mean songs but exact same songs mixed together back to back! Add more flashback mixes that made B 96 what it is today, perhaps? Or perhaps throw in some dance mixes to change it up. You can only hear 50 Cent's or Mariah's 2 songs so much in 4 hours? I swear they air Just a Lil Bit, Outta Control, We Belong Together, and Shake It off at least 6-8 times in a 4 hour show which is rediculous! It sometimes sounds like it is the Sagat video. The same 5 songs 15 times a day for 3 months.
I still say Stylez and Roman is alienating their older audience and that could be why they are tuning away and the ratings are not as good. I am in my mid 20s and I feel like I am way too old for their target. You can only give away thongs and act street thinking you are hip and cool for so long. You can't tell me they are doing better than what Julian and Tim did in that same time frame. They were at times #1 beating GCI in their time frame. I do not think the Bad Boyz have much to worry about now. A steady drop overall since last fall. Does anybody remember the period where they beat GCI for a quarter and was #1 overall??
Just as an example, I was in the Twin Cities Labor Day weekend and heard KTTB (ironically called B 96). There was so much energy there in the product that
B 96 tends to lack now. I think B 96 also needs to figure out are they Rhythmic alltogether? Rhythmic with a few dance friendly pop songs (DHT, Kelly Clarkson, Axel F) or all hip-hop? You can't lean one way for months and then suddenly shock your audience with a CHR/Pop song.
Kiss: I would be ashamed if they are glad to say they are closing the gap. They have done nothing but drop themselves. Again, they jumped in the spring and now has seemed to flatten out, not gain on B 96. I ask, why can't they copy a excellent sounding CHR product like their sister company station KDWB or create a original Chicago CHR catered to this city instead of giving us some generic product?
We should get the Skippy or Jif of CHR radio, not the government peanut butter! No imagination or creativity whatsoever since they launched. You can never look at them as serious until they do this. I think Clear Channel really could care less as long as they are protecting their baby in GCI.
Comments?
Here are my comments about each station below:
Power: Peaked last fall. Biggest mistake is changing what was not broken in Doug Banks. That morning show has been a disaster now. They steal a GCI employee only for him to leave months later. Shows you something is not right. Donnie DeVoe is about the only personality doing well.
I think they need to make a decision. Stay urban, go rhythmic to compete directly with B 96 which they could win that war, or go all hip-hop. I think the mixers are the only reason why they have not fallen further. They have some of the hardest working mixers in Chicago and beats B 96 and GCI hands down on the house music! Use that to your advantage!
B 96: I think they need to change something in order to re-spark some interest. Maybe overhaul the Lunch Party or cancel it alltogether if they are not going to add new mixes on a more consistent basis. I think it has sounded repititious since it began. By repititious I do not mean songs but exact same songs mixed together back to back! Add more flashback mixes that made B 96 what it is today, perhaps? Or perhaps throw in some dance mixes to change it up. You can only hear 50 Cent's or Mariah's 2 songs so much in 4 hours? I swear they air Just a Lil Bit, Outta Control, We Belong Together, and Shake It off at least 6-8 times in a 4 hour show which is rediculous! It sometimes sounds like it is the Sagat video. The same 5 songs 15 times a day for 3 months.
I still say Stylez and Roman is alienating their older audience and that could be why they are tuning away and the ratings are not as good. I am in my mid 20s and I feel like I am way too old for their target. You can only give away thongs and act street thinking you are hip and cool for so long. You can't tell me they are doing better than what Julian and Tim did in that same time frame. They were at times #1 beating GCI in their time frame. I do not think the Bad Boyz have much to worry about now. A steady drop overall since last fall. Does anybody remember the period where they beat GCI for a quarter and was #1 overall??
Just as an example, I was in the Twin Cities Labor Day weekend and heard KTTB (ironically called B 96). There was so much energy there in the product that
B 96 tends to lack now. I think B 96 also needs to figure out are they Rhythmic alltogether? Rhythmic with a few dance friendly pop songs (DHT, Kelly Clarkson, Axel F) or all hip-hop? You can't lean one way for months and then suddenly shock your audience with a CHR/Pop song.
Kiss: I would be ashamed if they are glad to say they are closing the gap. They have done nothing but drop themselves. Again, they jumped in the spring and now has seemed to flatten out, not gain on B 96. I ask, why can't they copy a excellent sounding CHR product like their sister company station KDWB or create a original Chicago CHR catered to this city instead of giving us some generic product?
We should get the Skippy or Jif of CHR radio, not the government peanut butter! No imagination or creativity whatsoever since they launched. You can never look at them as serious until they do this. I think Clear Channel really could care less as long as they are protecting their baby in GCI.
Comments?
Re: Power, B, and Kiss
Get rid of the Lunch Party? Eeek. The daytime mixes are pulling the most consistent ratings for B96. What are you trying to do? Pull business away from my company? LOL. The Lunch Party and Traffic Jam are custom made for B96-- if their programming department decides to put some dance or pop tracks in regular rotation, then you'll see those tracks pop up in the mixes. Otherwise, the daytime mixes are a reflection of their regular playlist. They reflect what they would normally be playing (what would usually be on the studio music log), except that they are mixed back to back. Though programmed for Chicago, their playlist is not too different than other Rhythmic CHRs nationally. As for repetition-- hey, this is CHR.
Stylez and Roman are pulling in killer numbers for the night show. Yes, their numbers are even better than Julian, Tim, & Candy ever were.
B96 is being attacked from several directions now. Power & WGCI have always been attacking from the rhythmic side, Kiss-FM have been attracting the teens, La Kalle is pulling on the hispanic side. The Mix is a major daytime competitor, pulling in office listeners and soccer moms.
B96 usually rides high in the summer because of the Summer Bash and other big promotions. As you know, they didn't have the B-Bash this year. Like any CHR, the station benefits from more street visibility.
Which of those stations still pulled in the most revenue this summer? B96.
Get rid of the Lunch Party? Eeek. The daytime mixes are pulling the most consistent ratings for B96. What are you trying to do? Pull business away from my company? LOL. The Lunch Party and Traffic Jam are custom made for B96-- if their programming department decides to put some dance or pop tracks in regular rotation, then you'll see those tracks pop up in the mixes. Otherwise, the daytime mixes are a reflection of their regular playlist. They reflect what they would normally be playing (what would usually be on the studio music log), except that they are mixed back to back. Though programmed for Chicago, their playlist is not too different than other Rhythmic CHRs nationally. As for repetition-- hey, this is CHR.
Stylez and Roman are pulling in killer numbers for the night show. Yes, their numbers are even better than Julian, Tim, & Candy ever were.
B96 is being attacked from several directions now. Power & WGCI have always been attacking from the rhythmic side, Kiss-FM have been attracting the teens, La Kalle is pulling on the hispanic side. The Mix is a major daytime competitor, pulling in office listeners and soccer moms.
B96 usually rides high in the summer because of the Summer Bash and other big promotions. As you know, they didn't have the B-Bash this year. Like any CHR, the station benefits from more street visibility.
Which of those stations still pulled in the most revenue this summer? B96.
Re: WKSC
> Would guys want to hear a hot stud check in on the Zone?
> Most wouldn't.
>
Hey, come on now...what about all those loyal Wrigleyville listeners...lol
In all seriousness though, Kiss lost big time when they got rid of Java Joel. I didn't necessary find constant attack on Stylz and Roman all too entertaining, but for the most part, he was the best jock Kiss has seen since its formation. It's really a shame they took that route...
Kiss needs to totally revamp their personalities if they ever want a shot at being listenable.
> Would guys want to hear a hot stud check in on the Zone?
> Most wouldn't.
>
Hey, come on now...what about all those loyal Wrigleyville listeners...lol
In all seriousness though, Kiss lost big time when they got rid of Java Joel. I didn't necessary find constant attack on Stylz and Roman all too entertaining, but for the most part, he was the best jock Kiss has seen since its formation. It's really a shame they took that route...
Kiss needs to totally revamp their personalities if they ever want a shot at being listenable.
I
itsjjski
Guest
Re: WKSC
B96 is getting more and more urban to compete with 'PPN. Regaetone weekends? Come on. They'll lose your hispanic females to stations that play that music all the time (Viva and PPN) and the suburban demographic as the station gets more and more urban.
I think they would do best to stick more to their roots... Rhythmic CHR that can still play some Gwen Stefani and ONLY some regaetone. Judging by the numbers of PPN there arent THAT MANY people in the market yet who like more than a few regaetone songs in rotation.
> > I wouldn't be too happy if I were Kiss
> > either. The product is not gaining ground it's just losing
>
> > less ground.
>
> That would be on the PD....for bringing in what he's got now
> after what he had. Like this funny guy at night? A hot
> girl check in every day? Kiss targets females. Do these
> females want to listen to other "hot girls" checking in?
> I'm a guy and I don't even want to hear that. If I did, I
> would drive around in my car and try and pick up all the
> high school stations out there.
>
> Would guys want to hear a hot stud check in on the Zone?
> Most wouldn't.
>
B96 is getting more and more urban to compete with 'PPN. Regaetone weekends? Come on. They'll lose your hispanic females to stations that play that music all the time (Viva and PPN) and the suburban demographic as the station gets more and more urban.
I think they would do best to stick more to their roots... Rhythmic CHR that can still play some Gwen Stefani and ONLY some regaetone. Judging by the numbers of PPN there arent THAT MANY people in the market yet who like more than a few regaetone songs in rotation.
> > I wouldn't be too happy if I were Kiss
> > either. The product is not gaining ground it's just losing
>
> > less ground.
>
> That would be on the PD....for bringing in what he's got now
> after what he had. Like this funny guy at night? A hot
> girl check in every day? Kiss targets females. Do these
> females want to listen to other "hot girls" checking in?
> I'm a guy and I don't even want to hear that. If I did, I
> would drive around in my car and try and pick up all the
> high school stations out there.
>
> Would guys want to hear a hot stud check in on the Zone?
> Most wouldn't.
>
Re: Power, B, and Kiss
> Get rid of the Lunch Party? Eeek. The daytime mixes are
> pulling the most consistent ratings for B96. What are you
> trying to do? Pull business away from my company? LOL. The
> Lunch Party and Traffic Jam are custom made for B96-- if
> their programming department decides to put some dance or
> pop tracks in regular rotation, then you'll see those tracks
> pop up in the mixes. Otherwise, the daytime mixes are a
> reflection of their regular playlist. They reflect what they
> would normally be playing (what would usually be on the
> studio music log), except that they are mixed back to back.
> Though programmed for Chicago, their playlist is not too
> different than other Rhythmic CHRs nationally. As for
> repetition-- hey, this is CHR.
>
> Stylez and Roman are pulling in killer numbers for the night
> show. Yes, their numbers are even better than Julian, Tim, &
> Candy ever were.
>
> B96 is being attacked from several directions now. Power &
> WGCI have always been attacking from the rhythmic side,
> Kiss-FM have been attracting the teens, La Kalle is pulling
> on the hispanic side. The Mix is a major daytime competitor,
> pulling in office listeners and soccer moms.
>
> B96 usually rides high in the summer because of the Summer
> Bash and other big promotions. As you know, they didn't have
> the B-Bash this year. Like any CHR, the station benefits
> from more street visibility.
>
> Which of those stations still pulled in the most revenue
> this summer? B96.
>
I think that B96 could benefit from maybe tweaking with the Lunchparty formula a little bit. Maybe two hours, say 11-1, of the current Lunchparty mixes. Why not try to go the route of, say, what Q101 does after Mancow? Listeners are still on B after Eddie and JoBo, and I'd be willing to bet a large percentage of that audience is slightly older than B's demographic. So, why not a throwback hour from 10-11? Then two hours of Lunchparty cd's.
Hell, why not let Middleton mix for an hour? God knows he has the talent for it...spice it up a little bit during the lunch hour, typical lunch hour, say 12-1.
Personally I think B should rid themselves of the "eddie and jobo" countdown at 9, since its the same damn thing we get at 9pm. Maybe move Brian to 9, let him do a throwback thing from 9-10, then proceed with the typical Lunchparty. Then again, I'm not sure about their current numbers from 9-10, just an idea.
With regards to the night show, why fix what's not broken? S&R do good numbers, and appeal to the demographic. I'm not gonna argue that they do probably alienate the older listeners, but I don't think that is much of B96's concern at this point.
> Get rid of the Lunch Party? Eeek. The daytime mixes are
> pulling the most consistent ratings for B96. What are you
> trying to do? Pull business away from my company? LOL. The
> Lunch Party and Traffic Jam are custom made for B96-- if
> their programming department decides to put some dance or
> pop tracks in regular rotation, then you'll see those tracks
> pop up in the mixes. Otherwise, the daytime mixes are a
> reflection of their regular playlist. They reflect what they
> would normally be playing (what would usually be on the
> studio music log), except that they are mixed back to back.
> Though programmed for Chicago, their playlist is not too
> different than other Rhythmic CHRs nationally. As for
> repetition-- hey, this is CHR.
>
> Stylez and Roman are pulling in killer numbers for the night
> show. Yes, their numbers are even better than Julian, Tim, &
> Candy ever were.
>
> B96 is being attacked from several directions now. Power &
> WGCI have always been attacking from the rhythmic side,
> Kiss-FM have been attracting the teens, La Kalle is pulling
> on the hispanic side. The Mix is a major daytime competitor,
> pulling in office listeners and soccer moms.
>
> B96 usually rides high in the summer because of the Summer
> Bash and other big promotions. As you know, they didn't have
> the B-Bash this year. Like any CHR, the station benefits
> from more street visibility.
>
> Which of those stations still pulled in the most revenue
> this summer? B96.
>
I think that B96 could benefit from maybe tweaking with the Lunchparty formula a little bit. Maybe two hours, say 11-1, of the current Lunchparty mixes. Why not try to go the route of, say, what Q101 does after Mancow? Listeners are still on B after Eddie and JoBo, and I'd be willing to bet a large percentage of that audience is slightly older than B's demographic. So, why not a throwback hour from 10-11? Then two hours of Lunchparty cd's.
Hell, why not let Middleton mix for an hour? God knows he has the talent for it...spice it up a little bit during the lunch hour, typical lunch hour, say 12-1.
Personally I think B should rid themselves of the "eddie and jobo" countdown at 9, since its the same damn thing we get at 9pm. Maybe move Brian to 9, let him do a throwback thing from 9-10, then proceed with the typical Lunchparty. Then again, I'm not sure about their current numbers from 9-10, just an idea.
With regards to the night show, why fix what's not broken? S&R do good numbers, and appeal to the demographic. I'm not gonna argue that they do probably alienate the older listeners, but I don't think that is much of B96's concern at this point.
Re: WPPN?
> B96 is getting more and more urban to compete with 'PPN.
> Regaetone weekends? Come on. They'll lose your hispanic
> females to stations that play that music all the time (Viva
> and PPN) and the suburban demographic as the station gets
> more and more urban.
I think you got your call letters mixed up. WPPN? Pasion? Why do you consider Pasion 106.7 a competitor to B96? They're not even the same demo. Pasion is a Spanish AC. They don't play reggaeton. La Kalle 93.9/103.1 (WVIV/WVIX) does.
> B96 is getting more and more urban to compete with 'PPN.
> Regaetone weekends? Come on. They'll lose your hispanic
> females to stations that play that music all the time (Viva
> and PPN) and the suburban demographic as the station gets
> more and more urban.
I think you got your call letters mixed up. WPPN? Pasion? Why do you consider Pasion 106.7 a competitor to B96? They're not even the same demo. Pasion is a Spanish AC. They don't play reggaeton. La Kalle 93.9/103.1 (WVIV/WVIX) does.
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mccay
Guest
I heard a response to that question from someone there who said the area which WKIF serves is fairly conservative and would not respond well to the format.
Considering there is a good sized Christian university there (Ollivet- Nazaerene with WONU-FM), that assessment makes sense... That and the demo which <would> be liberally inclined are sufficiently different in so many ways from this format that they would not take to liberal talk of this type.
Nice to see NINE doing better/holding it's own.
For the moment, planning anything for 820 at night is very much putting the cart before the horse. They're at least a year+ away from doing anything because of the international changes being requested to make this happen. There are so many potential problems or issues with this application at the international, national, and local levels that any one of them going south could doom the whole thing. So to talk about formats now is a bit pre-mature.
GR
> > Nothing major. WKSC and WBBM-FM are closer and closer to
> > each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
> >
> Also, 9FM is holding steady, as is WCPT. Newsweb is really
> pushing 850 with bus billboards these days. With the 820
> night pattern in the works, I wish they'd put AAR on 820 and
> the religious programming on 850 (since they also have 950)
> but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen.
>
> Question to Newsweb: why not simulcast WCPT on 92.7 in
> Kankakee (WCPT-FM?)
>
Considering there is a good sized Christian university there (Ollivet- Nazaerene with WONU-FM), that assessment makes sense... That and the demo which <would> be liberally inclined are sufficiently different in so many ways from this format that they would not take to liberal talk of this type.
Nice to see NINE doing better/holding it's own.
For the moment, planning anything for 820 at night is very much putting the cart before the horse. They're at least a year+ away from doing anything because of the international changes being requested to make this happen. There are so many potential problems or issues with this application at the international, national, and local levels that any one of them going south could doom the whole thing. So to talk about formats now is a bit pre-mature.
GR
> > Nothing major. WKSC and WBBM-FM are closer and closer to
> > each other. 2 points off. WRLL's highest book ever.
> >
> Also, 9FM is holding steady, as is WCPT. Newsweb is really
> pushing 850 with bus billboards these days. With the 820
> night pattern in the works, I wish they'd put AAR on 820 and
> the religious programming on 850 (since they also have 950)
> but it doesn't seem like that's going to happen.
>
> Question to Newsweb: why not simulcast WCPT on 92.7 in
> Kankakee (WCPT-FM?)
>
Re: WPPN?
> I think you got your call letters mixed up. WPPN? Pasion?
> Why do you consider Pasion 106.7 a competitor to B96?
> They're not even the same demo. Pasion is a Spanish AC. They
> don't play reggaeton. La Kalle 93.9/103.1 (WVIV/WVIX) does.
>
Wrong frequency for the SW Suburbs. It's 93.5, not 93.9, which is the heritage English AC station that is a Hot AC wannabe.
> I think you got your call letters mixed up. WPPN? Pasion?
> Why do you consider Pasion 106.7 a competitor to B96?
> They're not even the same demo. Pasion is a Spanish AC. They
> don't play reggaeton. La Kalle 93.9/103.1 (WVIV/WVIX) does.
>
Wrong frequency for the SW Suburbs. It's 93.5, not 93.9, which is the heritage English AC station that is a Hot AC wannabe.
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itsjjski
Guest
Re: WPPN?
> > Wrong frequency for the SW Suburbs. It's 93.5, not 93.9,
> > which is the heritage English AC station that is a Hot AC
> > wannabe.
>
> Hehehe... correction for the correction. Of course I knew
> that! Just a typo on my part. Thanks.
>
I also take some flack for the correction.
ON my honor, I will never try to bang out a post in a hurry ever again
> > Wrong frequency for the SW Suburbs. It's 93.5, not 93.9,
> > which is the heritage English AC station that is a Hot AC
> > wannabe.
>
> Hehehe... correction for the correction. Of course I knew
> that! Just a typo on my part. Thanks.
>
I also take some flack for the correction.
ON my honor, I will never try to bang out a post in a hurry ever again
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