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Superbowl (so far)

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Adam Levine shirtless and very low-rise pants. Whether he’s ones type aside, it’s interesting the volume of consternation these two ladies generated vs what he did.

What could the difference be....
 
I'd give performers who have dancing as part of their act a pass, especially since no one wants a flawed performance at the Super Bowl -- especially the labels and the networks. There's too much at stake to allow a dance first/sing second performer to work without a net at the Super Bowl. I seriously doubt Shakira was moving the way she did on the Super Bowl stage while she was doing the vocals for her studio recording of "Hips Don't Lie." So why do you demand she do both at the same time on what, as you say, is the biggest stage she'll ever perform on, in front of a stadium crowd that wants mostly to see her dance and probably can't hear the vocals clearly over the beat anyway?

Shakira is a Colombian of Lebanese heritage on her father's side. Her dance movements have Arab influences and have been part of her public performances ever since her first big hit back over 25 years ago ("Estoy Aqui"). Her official theme song for the 2010 World Cup had similar dance routines and was played everywhere in the world that has soccer as a sport.

And I'll bet Michael Jackson did not do his signature dance movements when he was recording his hits. And Garth Brooks does not record songs while sliding down ramps and running several miles during the session as he does in a stage show, either.

Oh, and Shakira has performed for even bigger crowds than the Superbowl many times... I forget the exact number who saw her at the 2010 World Cup kick-off, but it was in the hundreds of millions.

I think that some of the observations about Shakira and Jennifer Lopez come from residual Puritanical views; I found the half-time show absolutely amazing, with great choreography and, of course, the obligatory SuperBowl fireworks. It was several times better than the show last year, which was pretty dull and un-exciting.
 
AGREED!!!!!!!!

Cultural differences. All a matter of perception. Mexico still has bullfights. Cockfighting is legal in Puerto Rico, but nowhere in the 50 states. I can understand our "puritan" sensibilities causing outrage over those, but a Colombian dancing at a sporting event? Why?
 
Shakira is a Colombian of Lebanese heritage on her father's side. Her dance movements have Arab influences and have been part of her public performances ever since her first big hit back over 25 years ago ("Estoy Aqui"). Her official theme song for the 2010 World Cup had similar dance routines and was played everywhere in the world that has soccer as a sport.

And I'll bet Michael Jackson did not do his signature dance movements when he was recording his hits. And Garth Brooks does not record songs while sliding down ramps and running several miles during the session as he does in a stage show, either.

Oh, and Shakira has performed for even bigger crowds than the Superbowl many times... I forget the exact number who saw her at the 2010 World Cup kick-off, but it was in the hundreds of millions.

I think that some of the observations about Shakira and Jennifer Lopez come from residual Puritanical views; I found the half-time show absolutely amazing, with great choreography and, of course, the obligatory SuperBowl fireworks. It was several times better than the show last year, which was pretty dull and un-exciting.

Thank goodness I found something useful to do, walking the dog, during the disgusting, mindless,
trashy, filthy, "R" rated half time show. American debased culture and television, what an
awful combination!!!!! American televsion, setting low standards and failing to meet them!!!!!
 
Thank goodness I found something useful to do, walking the dog, during the disgusting, mindless,
trashy, filthy, "R" rated half time show. American debased culture and television, what an
awful combination!!!!! American televsion, setting low standards and failing to meet them!!!!!

Gee, to me there was not much difference between the two main artist's appearance of that show and the June Taylor Dancers on the Jackie Gleason show in the 50's or or the Radio City Rockettes. Well, there was one difference... they were better, and one of them is one of the ten best-selling record artists in history.

With "American" meaning more than Northwestern Europeans today, this was a magnificent display of the cultural fusion that has formed the country for several centuries.
 
Gee, to me there was not much difference between the two main artist's appearance of that show and the June Taylor Dancers on the Jackie Gleason show in the 50's or or the Radio City Rockettes. Well, there was one difference... they were better, and one of them is one of the ten best-selling record artists in history.

With "American" meaning more than Northwestern Europeans today, this was a magnificent display of the cultural fusion that has formed the country for several centuries.

And not a female family member or acquaintance of mine has expressed anything but admiration for their performance. No one muttering about a striptease. No pearl-clutching “but what about the children” a la Helen Lovejoy. And none of them of Hispanic descent or particularly devoted fans of J-Lo or Shakira. Just impressed.
 
And not a female family member or acquaintance of mine has expressed anything but admiration for their performance. No one muttering about a striptease. No pearl-clutching “but what about the children” a la Helen Lovejoy. And none of them of Hispanic descent or particularly devoted fans of J-Lo or Shakira. Just impressed.

and remember that the “pole dancing” employed by Jennifer comes from her recent movie... and the pole is ultra-common in exercising today.
 
Cultural differences. All a matter of perception. Mexico still has bullfights. Cockfighting is legal in Puerto Rico, but nowhere in the 50 states. I can understand our "puritan" sensibilities causing outrage over those, but a Colombian dancing at a sporting event? Why?

This was an American sport which was taking place in America (although some might disagree) and it deserved to adhere to basic family entertainment as a large part of the audience was undoubtedly under 18 years of age. Those performers attract kids, especially underage girls, and their raw display was well outside that which we usually call family entertainment. Nobody better at lowering the bar than Fox.

Like bull fighting and cockfighting (which is animal cruelty by any measure), outlawed here for a reason. This is not Spain nor is it Puerto Rico and dogs are not food as they are elsewhere in the world. Use of the word "puritan" is a major disservice to those of us who vehemently oppose animal cruelty and the sexual exploitation of women. I spent four years in the navy. I know all the words and have seen much more than the average adult male yet this, to me, is a disgusting display of all the things we, as a culture, should abhor. It is not entertainment any more than the woman and donkey shows of Tijuana. It is nothing more than titillation.
 
Gee, to me there was not much difference between the two main artist's appearance of that show and the June Taylor Dancers on the Jackie Gleason show in the 50's or or the Radio City Rockettes.

You are going WAY out on a limb to compare that halftime show with the June Taylor dancers or the Rockettes. Both of these shows displayed summitry and kaleidoscope-type images as central points of their dances. I do not recall a single instance of butt shaking in either group. Neither did those dances attempt to simulate six moves on stage. There is no comparison.

Well, there was one difference... they were better, and one of them is one of the ten best-selling record artists in history.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. No one, to my knowledge, is criticizing a singer here (although the audio was so low I could not tell whether they were singing or not - and really didn't care).

With "American" meaning more than Northwestern Europeans today, this was a magnificent display of the cultural fusion that has formed the country for several centuries.

IMHO this was an ugly, vulgar display which belongs in the adult clubs of Las Vegas and not part of broadcast TV. There is good reason America doesn't look like Brazil et al.
 
So a simulated sex display IS appropriate for a football game?

Pole dancing is part of very popular aerobic excerciseprograms among younger generations today. If I tried it I would probably be hospitalized, but it is used extensively with Millennials and even Gen Xerox.

The club at my housing area has had poles for exercise since the built a new facility a few years ago... and this area is about 99% non-Hispanic white.

You are objecting to something only very old non-ethnic find objectionable because they are unaware of how the concept has changed.
 
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IMHO this was an ugly, vulgar display which belongs in the adult clubs of Las Vegas and not part of broadcast TV. There is good reason America doesn't look like Brazil et al.

Of course, Brazil is a totally different culture from New York (J-lo) or Spain (where Shakira lives now). It does not even have a common language.
 
Does Shakira typically badly lipsync in her non-Superbowl concerts?

She did not lip sync as far as I could tell. I have seen her many times in concert since 1995; she is absolutely amazingly skilled.
 
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