I never said that the latino community doesnt matter but besides im sure another "non regional" Spanish station like mega would pop up somewhere i just think CBS should stick with English formats since thats what they do best. They pretty much have no experience in Spanish formats.chicano82 said:
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I never said that the latino community doesnt matter but besides im sure another "non regional" Spanish station like mega would pop up somewhere i just think CBS should stick with English formats since thats what they do best. They pretty much have no experience in Spanish formats.
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They might not have no experience but they sure are doing good with that Mega format, as of december 2009 Ratings for MEGA KLOL or 3.7% and for Tu Musica KAMA are 2.2. Also CBS has changed their station in Dallas MOVING 107.5 and made it also MEGA now its MEGA 107.5.
Also CBS (as Mr Eduardo said) has a new national PD for its Spanish language stations, formerly the national PD of SBS. So if CBS is investing on that station I strongly believe Mega is staying.
Let me ask you a question, just for curiosity.
IF and I repeat IF CBS WERE TO DROP MEGA AND THAT FORMAT WHICH COMPANY WOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT WOULD PICK THAT FORMAT?
LBI? No, they had that format with XO and they tend to stay away from formats when they fail.
RADIO ONE? No, they failed miserably when they had LA MERA MERA 92.1. I dont believe they will ever try to bring any format in spanish again.
So I repeat the question to you.
What company do you think would ever try?
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They might not have no experience but they sure are doing good with that Mega format, as of december 2009 Ratings for MEGA KLOL or 3.7% and for Tu Musica KAMA are 2.2. Also CBS has changed their station in Dallas MOVING 107.5 and made it also MEGA now its MEGA 107.5.
Also CBS (as Mr Eduardo said) has a new national PD for its Spanish language stations, formerly the national PD of SBS. So if CBS is investing on that station I strongly believe Mega is staying.
Let me ask you a question, just for curiosity.
IF and I repeat IF CBS WERE TO DROP MEGA AND THAT FORMAT WHICH COMPANY WOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT WOULD PICK THAT FORMAT?
LBI? No, they had that format with XO and they tend to stay away from formats when they fail.
RADIO ONE? No, they failed miserably when they had LA MERA MERA 92.1. I dont believe they will ever try to bring any format in spanish again.
So I repeat the question to you.
What company do you think would ever try?
chicano82 said:
They might not have no experience but they sure are doing good with that Mega format, as of december 2009 Ratings for MEGA KLOL or 3.7% and for Tu Musica KAMA are 2.2. Also CBS has changed their station in Dallas MOVING 107.5 and made it also MEGA now its MEGA 107.5.
Also CBS (as Mr Eduardo said) has a new national PD for its Spanish language stations, formerly the national PD of SBS. So if CBS is investing on that station I strongly believe Mega is staying.
Let me ask you a question, just for curiosity.
IF and I repeat IF CBS WERE TO DROP MEGA AND THAT FORMAT WHICH COMPANY WOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT WOULD PICK THAT FORMAT?
LBI? No, they had that format with XO and they tend to stay away from formats when they fail.
RADIO ONE? No, they failed miserably when they had LA MERA MERA 92.1. I dont believe they will ever try to bring any format in spanish again.
So I repeat the question to you.
What company do you think would ever try?
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If one day Cumulus decided to flip 103.7 from alternative, id say they would. After all, their head market guy does have some past experience working in spanish broadcasting, i read somewhere. But im just saying IF ONE DAY THEY DECIDED TO.
chicano82 said:
They might not have no experience but they sure are doing good with that Mega format, as of december 2009 Ratings for MEGA KLOL or 3.7% and for Tu Musica KAMA are 2.2. Also CBS has changed their station in Dallas MOVING 107.5 and made it also MEGA now its MEGA 107.5.
Also CBS (as Mr Eduardo said) has a new national PD for its Spanish language stations, formerly the national PD of SBS. So if CBS is investing on that station I strongly believe Mega is staying.
Let me ask you a question, just for curiosity.
IF and I repeat IF CBS WERE TO DROP MEGA AND THAT FORMAT WHICH COMPANY WOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT WOULD PICK THAT FORMAT?
LBI? No, they had that format with XO and they tend to stay away from formats when they fail.
RADIO ONE? No, they failed miserably when they had LA MERA MERA 92.1. I dont believe they will ever try to bring any format in spanish again.
So I repeat the question to you.
What company do you think would ever try?
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At this point i don't know either but many possibilities could occur down the road. All i was doing was giving my opinion on how i would like KLOL to be.... no need to get so defensive.
WOW Guys really really interesting topic. I siad this would happen.
Mega will fade off the 101 signal. toooooo many other possibilites for revenue on the stick.
my suggestions in this order
Sports Radio 101 ( runs cumulus 97.5 right out the market since hot is already beating the hell out krbe)
Hip Hop 101 (someone to finally compete against the boxx)
R&B 101 ( i would lie to see but I think the signal is to close to majic's 102 number)
either way it goes the market is about to shift and it is much much needed
Mega will fade off the 101 signal. toooooo many other possibilites for revenue on the stick.
my suggestions in this order
Sports Radio 101 ( runs cumulus 97.5 right out the market since hot is already beating the hell out krbe)
Hip Hop 101 (someone to finally compete against the boxx)
R&B 101 ( i would lie to see but I think the signal is to close to majic's 102 number)
either way it goes the market is about to shift and it is much much needed
radiothrowback said:
and every other station in Houston beating the hell outta 103.7
radiothrowback said:
making it the first non-rimshot competitor for The Boxx (since 101 is a missouri city stick and The Boxx's past competitors were on rimshots)
radiothrowback said:
it is. if CBS was really into launching one, they would have to switch with one of their other frequencies, but i don't see that happening.
radiothrowback said:
very much needed. i believe that then the market would be equaled out.
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ShaneofTexas
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Look for a Rock format on 101.1 IF it flips. You won't see a Sports station on a city grade frequency. Sports belongs on AM. Just my opinion guys.
So at least we all agree that something is gonna happen to the signal 101. and the majority of us believe mega will not b the format.
so where are now
urban/urban ac/sports and rock
i now jus wonder what tme frame we're looking at. please no 1 say winter. we cant afford to wait that long lol
so where are now
urban/urban ac/sports and rock
i now jus wonder what tme frame we're looking at. please no 1 say winter. we cant afford to wait that long lol
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amisdead
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The quality of the posts in this thread is abysmal. So much bad information and clueless predictions that lack any sort of factual base or historic precedent. Not to even mention the horrible grammar.
Does anyone else here actually work in radio? Have even the slightest idea of how the business works?
Does anyone else here actually work in radio? Have even the slightest idea of how the business works?
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purpledevil
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mr.ric said:
No one can take that away from you. You may be challenged, you may even be disagreed with, but you will never be told that you can't voice your thoughts. The problem I see, and I think amisdead will concur, is that a couple of you have taken the discussion of what CBS could do with their properties, Mega included, and changed it into a "Mega is definitely going away" statement. Mega is not going away; at least none of us know about it. Someone that would know if it's going away is not going to come on here and make a production about it, for fear of losing their job or at least the ability to be trusted with this type of information. I'd like to see Mega gone. Others on here agree, but it doesn't mean that it's going anywhere just because we want it to.
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mrh1960
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ShaneofTexas said:
Taking that into perspective...it might be nice to see Houston's "101.1" flip to an oldies format...something that Houston currently does not have...then Houston could join the ranks of having it's own "Oldies 101" format...similiar to SA's KONO 101, LA's KRTH 101, and NYC's WCBS 101...
mr.ric said:
KBXX has had direct competition on 102.1 and 104.9, neither of which were rimshots.
I'd personally love to hear Active Rock in Houston, no more gold-based alternative (KTBZ). Chevelle, Seether, Smile Empty Soul, Alice In Chains, Slipknot, Puddle Of Mudd, Flyleaf, Tool, System Of A Down, etc. It works in SA. I can almost hear it now, "Real Rock, 101X".
There's the big format holes in Houston; no oldies or active rock. Just about every other town in Texas has both these formats or at least one. We have plenty of Spanish stations that target their demographics, it wouldn't hurt to lose one of them. I may be clueless about the business of radio, but I am a consumer. Business who want to be successful in this world should listen to their consumers or lose more of them to iPods and internet radio. As for me, I'll be streaming KONO and KISS for my oldies and AR fix and will enjoy hearing those stations in two weeks when I venture to San Antonio.
Were there any restrictions in the CC to CBS deal where CBS cannot compete with CC on any of their former stations? I.E. no active rock because of the buzz?
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amisdead said:
You’re kidding right? That's a joke right? You’re seriously going to try to knock other people’s suggestions b/c you’re "in the biz"? One of those same people who in 2009 were responsible for losing almost 1/5 of this markets revenue? Name any other company/industry where you would get to keep your gig for doing such a horrific job? "Waaah, it’s the economy, Waaah, it's the other media outlets". All I see is a lot of excuses being made by those "in the biz", yet the smaller market guys who haven't cut everything worth listening to are still able to turn a profit. BTW Alpha Dog up in Portland, OR is about to blow those big market excuses out of the water as well. Frankly, I don’t think saying your "in the biz" is ANYTHING to be proud of. Unless your proud of being 2nd in media's race to the bottom of the barrel. The programming and decisions that are leading to this programming is/are just awful.
Here in Houston almost every station sounds just like the other. Arrow and the Eagle should just write up an agreement and simulcast b/c there the same station. From the hack morning shows to the EXACT same 53min of the EXACT same music an hour. Very original guys! Or how about 93Q vs. KILT, or Hot vs. KRBE, or Mix vs. 103.7, I'm sure the same goes for the Spanish stations. But can't comment for myself as I don’t know the language. What are even sadder are the stations with no competition like the Buzz, or 97.9. Who have the mentality "We got them, where else are they going to go?" Boxx sounded so much better two years ago When KPTY was some sort of competition, rimshot or not. And the Buzz loves playing music that belongs on the Arrow/Eagle. This industry is in serious trouble and the two major thoughts here seem to be “copy a successful competitor, or we own the format so screw the listeners". Awesome!
These days the worst offender seems to be CBS, who flip formats like pancakes, yet can't understand why there is no listener loyalty? Actually that’s not really fair; ALL the big guys are saying/doing the same thing. You know, when being #2 in a targeted demo isn't good enough. So they flip and become >10th in the very same demo. Or spending big $$ on consultants, or coaches that come up with a daily talking points list that any 10yr old could do by simply reading yahoo news. And STILL rating outside of the top 10 for the demo. History/Heritage? HA! Just ask those few in Boston who stayed loyal to WBCN and their 41yr legacy, even with cut, after cut, after cut. So that CBS could flip formats, "again to make a mirror image of a competitor" and still have as 104.1 their lowest rated station there! Yes, I know that same story is/has happened ALL over the country. And by who? You got it, the big guys "in the biz".
Aren't we lucky here in Houston to have the same company "CBS" who now owns two more of the "so called" public's radio stations? As goofy or inexperienced as most or all of the posters are on this board "myself included" when it comes to programming radio. We're tired of seeing the medium most of us grew up with, and love dying. And seeing/listening to those arrogant lemmings "in the biz" destroy it on a daily basis. So go ahead rip us apart for not knowing how programming works. And rip me apart for my grammar, I know it’s awful. But at least I and the other posters didn't cost our companies or industry 1/5 of its revenue, and sit back with complete arrogance to it.
But your "in the biz" so you know better. Good luck with your inevitable layoff!
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