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The CW Opts Not To Renew Affiliation Deals With Scripps-Owned Stations In Seven Markets

tripinva said:
I don't see how it would be any different than paying for carriage of Antenna TV or Rewind, which they legally do in plenty of places where they don't own stations. Obviously, I'm not an attorney, but it seems comparable.

Why not Rewind the other 22 hours? It's Nexstar's, they already own it, and it doesn't have an affiliate in Detroit or Miami.
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@EricStein and @Sammi Brie witnessed this in Phoenix when Scripps forced the CW off of KASW onto KNXV's Antenna sub (which, in retrospect, does show how little Scripps wanted to do with the CW at that point). Nexstar couldn't wait to get off of there.
 
Nathan Obral said:
They also refuse to carry LIV as a group (KFMB's refusals go further than that IIRC).
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False. As of LIV's current season, only two Tegna stations continue to preempt it (KFMB and WCCT). Tegna cleared LIV on their other CW affiliates, so the relationship is not as dire as you think it is.

Outside of the first week of college football, KFMB clears all CW sports except LIV. The only CW affiliate that refused all sports is WCIU, and that was solved with WGN.
 
crackedscreen said:
False. As of LIV's current season, only two Tegna stations continue to preempt it (KFMB and WCCT). Tegna cleared LIV on their other CW affiliates, so the relationship is not as dire as you think it is.
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Then why did Tegna give a hard pass on the CW in Atlanta and Seattle when they were available for the taking last year? You can't tell me that serving a three-year disaffiliation notice for an affiliate didn't wind up souring the mood across the entire company.
 
Nathan Obral said:
No one in either market is worried about losing a network with zero identity, Z-level sports and cheap, forgettable programming in primetime. I betcha the average person has no idea what the CW is.
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When Jane the Virgin found out her father was going to be on The CW, she thought it was a streaming service. The joke was she was a fictional character in a scripted series that was on The CW.
 
DarrenVision said:
TBH: Do u think that Sunbeam will drop Fox in Miami (assusming if the affliation deal expires) and move to WSFL and pick up CW for WSVN and probably move their Boston affiliation to WHDH and turn WLVI into a MNTV station? It wont be the last time that Miami will change their affiliation.
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E-Cam said:
Highly unlikely. I don't even think Miami or Boston is that desperate to have MNTV since, unlike The CW or even Ion, they don't have live sports coverage. It's just syndication programming for 10 hours a week.

With WSVN, I can't see them dropping NFL coverage (specifically Dolphins games, even though they're an AFC team) for "loud, intrusive, vile" golf. Same with WHDH. They went the independent route just to provide more local news and kept The CW on WLVI, and it will likely stay that way.
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Plus Nexstar doesn't own WSVN, WHDH or WLVI. Sunbeam does

What Sunbeam COULD do (If it hasn't already & IF IT WANTED TO) is move The CW to WHDH 7.1 but if they're to lure MNTV for WLVI 56.1, they'll have to go through CBS/Paramount to do (And Fox isn't exactly willing to bend over backwards & twist itself into pretzels to find prime spots for MNTV these days anyway so they'll just be content to keep it right where it is)

As for WSVN, THE BEST they can do is time shift The CW until after the 11:00 PM news (Like most Fox affiliates these days, they actually have one). Beyond that, it would be relegated to 7.2 in pattern with additional syndicated programming & newscasts to fill the rest of the time)
 
JeeperOne said:
Plus Nexstar doesn't own WSVN, WHDH or WLVI. Sunbeam does

What Sunbeam COULD do (If it hasn't already & IF IT WANTED TO) is move The CW to WHDH 7.1 but if they're to lure MNTV for WLVI 56.1, they'll have to go through CBS/Paramount to do (And Fox isn't exactly willing to bend over backwards & twist itself into pretzels to find prime spots for MNTV these days anyway so they'll just be content to keep it right where it is)
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MyNetworkTV is not a network. No Boston station has cleared it for nearly two years and for good reason. No demand exists.
JeeperOne said:
As for WSVN, THE BEST they can do is time shift The CW until after the 11:00 PM news (Like most Fox affiliates these days, they actually have one).
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They ain't doing that at all. WSVN keeps all commerical ad inventory with a local newscast at 11, something they wouldn't do to carry beyond-low-rated, forgettable programming on the CW. It barely stretches the bounds of reality as Miami is a hotly competitive market for local news and WSVN is a strong runner-up to either WPLG, WFOR or WTVJ among English-language outlets in that time slot. It's beyond absurd to think they'd take themselves out of that battle; they'd laugh Nexstar out of the room and have security escort them out to the parking lot.
JeeperOne said:
Beyond that, it would be relegated to 7.2 in pattern with additional syndicated programming & newscasts to fill the rest of the time)
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That's not even a realistic option. Sunbeam is not a company that purchases syndicated programming, and there isn't much of any syndicated programming that is even remotely available.
 
JeeperOne said:
Plus Nexstar doesn't own WSVN, WHDH or WLVI. Sunbeam does

What Sunbeam COULD do (If it hasn't already & IF IT WANTED TO) is move The CW to WHDH 7.1 but if they're to lure MNTV for WLVI 56.1, they'll have to go through CBS/Paramount to do (And Fox isn't exactly willing to bend over backwards & twist itself into pretzels to find prime spots for MNTV these days anyway so they'll just be content to keep it right where it is)

As for WSVN, THE BEST they can do is time shift The CW until after the 11:00 PM news (Like most Fox affiliates these days, they actually have one). Beyond that, it would be relegated to 7.2 in pattern with additional syndicated programming & newscasts to fill the rest of the time)
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Nathan Obral said:
MyNetworkTV is not a network. No Boston station has cleared it for nearly two years and for good reason. No demand exists.

They ain't doing that at all. WSVN keeps all commerical ad inventory with a local newscast at 11, something they wouldn't do to carry beyond-low-rated, forgettable programming on the CW. It barely stretches the bounds of reality as Miami is a hotly competitive market for local news and WSVN is a strong runner-up to either WPLG, WFOR or WTVJ among English-language outlets in that time slot. It's beyond absurd to think they'd take themselves out of that battle; they'd laugh Nexstar out of the room and have security escort them out to the parking lot.

That's not even a realistic option. Sunbeam is not a company that purchases syndicated programming, and there isn't much of any syndicated programming that is even remotely available.
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You're right. MyNetwork TV isn't really a network, which isn't why (As I said before) Fox going to bend over backwards & twist itself into pretzels JUST to find a better spot than CBS O&O WSBK 38

And while Nexstar might settle for The CW being on a .2 in Miami, they won't settle for The CW being time shifted till Midnight or later or (What little) sports programming being time shifted till after anything on Fox ESPECIALLY Baseball & Football (Which is EXACTLY what would happen on WSVN 7.1). They would prefer it being on 7.2 instead & give Sunbeam the option to run it as an Independent at times in which The CW isn't programming (Which is what Sunbeam does in Boston with WHDH anyway since it gives the sports programming (Like ACC Football) MORE EYEBALLS)
 
JeeperOne said:
MNTV for WLVI 56.1, they'll have to go through CBS/Paramount to do (And Fox isn't exactly willing to bend over backwards & twist itself into pretzels to find prime spots for MNTV these days anyway so they'll just be content to keep it right where it is)
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101.9 La Kalle said:
WSBK went independent in September 2022.
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You're right, WSBK did go Independent although WLVI 56.1 is a CW affiliate while WHDH 7 is an Independent which Sunbeam COULD use for sports programming from The CW if they wanted to in order to give the network more eyeballs
 
JeeperOne said:
You're right, WSBK did go Independent although WLVI 56.1 is a CW affiliate while WHDH 7 is an Independent which Sunbeam COULD use for sports programming from The CW if they wanted to in order to give the network more eyeballs
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That's not how affiliation contracts work. If Sunbeam wanted to move the CW to WHDH, they would have done it way back in 2017.

Plus next to no one in Boston is clamoring for forgettable Z-level sports like the ACC or LIV Golf or the PAC-2. Or anywhere else, for that matter.
 
Nathan Obral said:
Plus next to no one in Boston is clamoring for forgettable Z-level sports like the ACC or LIV Golf or the PAC-2. Or anywhere else, for that matter.
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You are forgetting that Boston is an ACC market, via Boston College. And last time I checked, the ACC is still an important college sports conference. To say that it's "forgettable" is way off the mark.
 
Rollo-Smokes said:
You are forgetting that Boston is an ACC market, via Boston College. And last time I checked, the ACC is still an important college sports conference. To say that it's "forgettable" is way off the mark.
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WHDH isn't taking the CW and sacrificing their incredibly profitable local newscasts in primetime just to get one or two games with Boston College in it. Because that's not how things work.
 
Nathan Obral said:
WHDH isn't taking the CW and sacrificing their incredibly profitable local newscasts in primetime just to get one or two games with Boston College in it. Because that's not how things work.
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Primetime runs from 8-10 PM on the East Coast & The CW's ACC coverage starts around Noon ET so the newscasts would't be affected at all

But they obviously seem to be content on keeping The CW on WLVI so the point is moot
 
JeeperOne said:
Primetime runs from 8-10 PM on the East Coast & The CW's ACC coverage starts around Noon ET so the newscasts would't be affected at all

But they obviously seem to be content on keeping The CW on WLVI so the point is moot
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WLVI is a dumping ground just like their former studios on Morrissey Boulevard that are rotting away in full public view.
 
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