The Eagle

[FOZZIE BEAR]

It is a computer foulup. They had 2 rap songs play yesterday as well. I had a tune pop up one night that shouldn't have and it was because the log number was very close to the correct song's number. The MD mistakenly entered it instead. I did not mind...it was a Pantera tune. Oh yeah, in response to the earlier post that said males 18-34 do not want to hear Triumph...think again.

Think again? Ummmmm. Ok. Yeah, cuz they are calling up my station all the time for TRIUMPH. Sorry, I forgot about them.

 

[FOZZIE BEAR]

Oh yeah, in response to the earlier post that said males 18-34 do not want to hear Triumph...think again.

Thank you.

That's just one example among many. Go to any major
retail store and check out the teenagers and 20ish crowd wearing
old classic rock tees. I have yet to see a Pantera one though. Funny
how everyone says "Oh, Pantera was such an influential rock band
of the 90's and all time" yet hardly any Classic Rock station plays them,
even in medium rotation. Compare that to Nirvana, Metallica, or
Pearl Jam tunes of the 90's. Have you (Fozzie) ever thought that maybe only
hardcore metal listeners like them, and not the masses. Appealing
to the masses is the name of the game, like it or not. And again, as
an example, I believe rock listeners certainly recognize "Magic Power"
"Hold On" or even "Follow Your Heart" better than "Cowboys From
Hell" or "Cemetery Gates".

I am a ROCK listener. Have been for a looong time. And I do not recognize those titles. So, I am guessing this makes me a lesser ROCK listener. Also, on the ROCK station that I work for... I have NEVER been asked to play TRIUMPH. However, I get asked to play PANTERA allllllllllll then time.

Also, You are really not going to hear the harder METALLICA on a classic rock station. Atleast the ones I have listened too. Sorry, it's not going to happen. PANTERA is seen as a HEAVY METAL band... even 30 years from now... you won't hear them on a CLASSIC ROCK station. As for your T-shirt example... I really don't know what that was suppose to mean. I mean, for every person wearing a VINTAGE ROCK Tee... I can show you just as many wearing PANTERA, BLACK LABEL, LAMB OF GOD etc...

You know what.... this is just MY OPINION. Thats all. So, I am going to just sit back and read these post's... seeing that I obviously do not know a thing about radio or the format I have been successful in for some time now.

 

[TheRover]

Oh yeah, in response to the earlier post that said males 18-34 do not want to hear Triumph...think again.

Thank you.

That's just one example among many. Go to any major
retail store and check out the teenagers and 20ish crowd wearing
old classic rock tees. I have yet to see a Pantera one though. Funny
how everyone says "Oh, Pantera was such an influential rock band
of the 90's and all time" yet hardly any Classic Rock station plays them,
even in medium rotation. Compare that to Nirvana, Metallica, or
Pearl Jam tunes of the 90's. Have you (Fozzie) ever thought that maybe only
hardcore metal listeners like them, and not the masses. Appealing
to the masses is the name of the game, like it or not. And again, as
an example, I believe rock listeners certainly recognize "Magic Power"
"Hold On" or even "Follow Your Heart" better than "Cowboys From
Hell" or "Cemetery Gates".

I am from Texas. I have lived here in the Metroplex for all but 4 years, which I spent down in Austin from 1973-1977. .... I even lived in Arlington for 3 years in the 90's.

But.... I have no desire to listen to Pantera. I know the band's been through a lot... But sentimentality does not carry over to my musical selections. Either I think they rock, or I don't think they rock. The grunge and growl of Pantera is not for me...Local boys, or not!!

I appreciate Hard Rock, Blues Rock, Melodic Metal, and some Progressive Rock.

But, I have no taste for Death Metal or Speed Metal. That's not a niche I care for.

I like the Harder Rocking songs from a diverse variety of bands from different decades:

Led Zeppelin

The Offspring

Dream Theater

Metal Church

White Zombie

Golden Earring (Golden Earring's songs)

Cheap Trick

Deep Purple

Guns 'n' Roses

ELP - Emerson, Lake, & Palmer

Filter

The Who

Grand Funk Railroad

Pink Floyd

The Sex Pistols

GWAR

The Butthole Surfers

Nirvana

Al Stewart (Before 'Year of the Cat' ! ! ! )

Gary Moore

Crosby, Still, Nash, & Young

Frank Zappa

Chicago

Van Halen (more the hard rocking tracks vs the 'commercial' rockers)

Take most of the bands represented on "Classic Rock" 93.3, and you have many of my favorite bands....But, the songs in the playlist of The Bone, are not my favorite songs, by those favorite bands.

There is a group of Rock music lovers, that are not being served. The Bone serves those who want shallowness in their playlists. Fine !!

Now, the rest of Rock lovers could care less about those "songs", and we want the "other" songs, the more Hard Rocking songs by our favorite bands. We would tune in and listen, if we could hear those songs in the forefront.

That is what lovers of Rock music are waiting for in the Dallas area.... a ROCK station, that can and will put the songs we love in the forefront.

It's not Rocket Science. NEVER was, Never will be !

 

[rebelrawker83]

Gee, Fozzie! Such anger and loathing. Your problem is like many young "ROCKERS"( as you put it). You guys think that great rock began with your favorite artists of today. Try talking to Zakk Wylde sometime and see who he idolizes. Sit down with Alexi of Children of Bodom and see if he shares your thoughts about what constitutes great music. You admit that you do not recognize the titles that were mentioned, yet you still discredit those things of which you are ignorant. Stop trying to make the rock format a battle between bands. If you want to get pissed about music, turn on a freakin Top 40 station where they cannot even read music, much less play a damn guitar.

 

[Neanderpaul]

I am a ROCK listener. Have been for a looong time. And I do not recognize those titles. So, I am guessing this makes me a lesser ROCK listener.

Not at all. But it does show that your knowledge of the product has some limitations.

Also, on the ROCK station that I work for... I have NEVER been asked to play TRIUMPH. However, I get asked to play PANTERA allllllllllll then time.

And this invalidates Triumph how? Do you know what the biggest musical Hard Rock event was in the 1980's? It happened in 1983 and at that time, I, at 39 who would be the middle of the target of a 25-54 focused "Hard Rock" station in Dallas, was 15. It was called the US Festival. Do some homework on it and see just what bands played that event. Then get back to me.

A wise man named Paul Lemieux, who was the APD of WZLX told me in 1991; "You're a talented kid, and you're going to do well...but you don't know everything, so sometimes it's just best to shut the f*ck up and listen!"

The best advice I've ever been given. Timeless really.

Also, You are really not going to hear the harder METALLICA on a classic rock station.
Atleast the ones I have listened too. Sorry, it's not going to happen. PANTERA is seen as a HEAVY METAL band... even 30 years from now... you won't hear them on a CLASSIC ROCK station.

And 20 years ago Metallica was considered too heavy for any Rock station. Times change. See, above referenced advice.

As for your T-shirt example... I really don't know what that was suppose to mean. I mean, for every person wearing a VINTAGE ROCK Tee... I can show you just as many wearing PANTERA, BLACK LABEL, LAMB OF GOD etc...

And that's actually a pretty good indicator. 6 years ago, Slipknot t-shirts were the top sellers at Ozzfest. Radio programmers scoffed. Bet KEGL will play "Duality" at night.

You know what.... this is just MY OPINION. Thats all. So, I am going to just sit back and read these post's... seeing that I obviously do not know a thing about radio or the format I have been successful in for some time now.

Success and knowledge aren't always linked. There are some pretty smart people out there who can't succeed to save their homes. Conversely, there're plenty of idiots running multi-billion dollar corporations. Congratulations on your professed success. Guess you've learned all you need now. You're on your way.

This is why our industry is in the state that it is. Lots of talking, very little listening, and almost ZERO communication.

Radio is a feedback medium. For too long we've served it as a monologue. And at some point, you've heard it all, and decide not to listen anymore.

Prophetic? Pathetic? Take your pick.

BTW...Triumph were so insignificant that they were 3rd on the bill at the US Festival...over Judas Priest, Ozzy, Motley & Quiet Riot.

Only Scorpions and Van Halen were higher on the bill.

...but you knew that right?

That's the beauty and difference between facts and opinion. Opinion cannot be debated. Every one is valid.

 

[wombat]

I am a ROCK listener. Have been for a looong time. And I do not recognize those titles. So, I am guessing this makes me a lesser ROCK listener. Also, on the ROCK station that I work for... I have NEVER been asked to play TRIUMPH. However, I get asked to play PANTERA allllllllllll then time.
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and what are the statistics on the percentage of the audience who bother to pick up the phone and call a radio station for a request? 2% maybe?

and the 18 year old dallas native who is requesting pantera hasn't even HEARD of triumph -- because no one in dallas has played any triumph in the last 10 years.

 

[theshadow]

Do you know what the biggest musical Hard Rock event was in the 1980's? It happened in 1983 and at that time, I, at 39 who would be the middle of the target of a 25-54 focused "Hard Rock" station in Dallas, was 15. It was called the US Festival. Do some homework on it and see just what bands played that event.

After taking advantage of my full "Magic Power"
I rest my case, your honor..... "Spellbound" ...but
still rockin'.....

 

[Neanderpaul]

Do you know what the biggest musical Hard Rock event was in the 1980's? It happened in 1983 and at that time, I, at 39 who would be the middle of the target of a 25-54 focused "Hard Rock" station in Dallas, was 15. It was called the US Festival. Do some homework on it and see just what bands played that event.

After taking advantage of my full "Magic Power"
I rest my case, your honor..... "Spellbound" ...but
still rockin'.....

"Lay It On The Line", "Follow Your Heart", and "Hold On" "When The Lights Go Down". And as always "Never Surrender"

This could get ugly quick!

 

[dallasrockradio]

Stop trying to make the rock format a battle between bands. If you want to get pissed about music, turn on a freakin Top 40 station where they cannot even read music, much less play a damn guitar.

hehe. ;D

 

[Neanderpaul]

I could play guitar...I certainly wouldn't be doing this.

...alas. We're failed musicians. Admitting it is the first step.

 

[dallasrockradio]

For those who are not happy with FM rock playlist, get XM..... Squizz (Ch. 48) plays a bunch of songs i've never heard before. If you ask me, this bashing of rock radio and bands doesn't belong in this forum. The eagle is certainly better than any other rock station we've had in the past 10 years.

 

[FOZZIE BEAR]

Wow. It didnt take long for all the professional radio people to respond to my little rant. It amazes me how many RADIO JUGGERNAUTS there are on this site. I love it that if I don't know who TRIUMPH is... I am lacking in my ROCK KNOWLEDGE. Yeah, becuz I don't know of a band from over 25 years ago... I should just pack it in. Your right.

There are so many things that can be said about each of the comments that were left.

1. You guys think that great rock began with your favorite artists of today. Try talking to Zakk Wylde sometime and see who he idolizes. Sit down with Alexi of Children of Bodom and see if he shares your thoughts about what constitutes great music. You admit that you do not recognize the titles that were mentioned, yet you still discredit those things of which you are ignorant.

1. This is a good one. I never said that I was not influenced by much older bands. However, becuz I do not know of this great TRIUMPH... I must know nothing. I will need to get over to TIMELIFE and purchase a best of cd collection so that I can educate myself on these great bands of the past. Also, it was not my intent to make this some sort of battle of the bands. However, to see someone write that TRIUMPH should be played and NOT PANTERA... on a ROCK STATION in DALLAS..... come on.

2. As for this BIGGEST ROCK EVENT that I am suppose to educate myself on? At that time, you didnt have these massive roadshows that you have to day. So, yes... I could see that being the biggest ROCK event of the time. However, before that.... it would have been WOODSTOCK or Altamont Free Concert etc... However, becuz I do not know of this great rock event. I am less of a rocker? Ok.

Also, 20 years ago... no HEAVY BANDS were really getting any radio play. Of course that quickly changed once Corporations realized there was MONEY in it.

3. As for this wierd T-shirt issue.... Ladies and gentlemen... This is a FAD. Just like RAPPERS who wear ESKIMO COATS in the middle of summer. Why would someone one do this? Why would the kids in the MALL be wearing this? Is it becuz they have this great interest in ANTARTIC LIFE? No, it's becuz someone on MTV etc... was wearing it. I really don't think there is a MAD RUSH for the record store or online to get or download all these CLASSIC hits of yesteryear. What about the FAD of VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES... with the same thinking regarding T-shirts... there should be MASS CHAOS on the streets. However, study after study has shown that TEEN VIOLENCE has dropped in the last 10 years. This is part of the reason why CALIFORNIA could not pass the VIOLENT VIDEO GAME legislation. Thats not an opinion... thats a fact.

ALso, let me make something clear... I REALLY enjoy ALL sorts of music. I have a VAST collection of music. Obviously TRIUMPH isn't a part of it. However, it goes way back. However, I have been listening to all sorts of stuff for a long time. I didn't start the other day becuz I bought the T-shirt and just had to have the music.

4. Also, as far as the point that was made regarding TRIUMPH and there place on a bill... Come on. Big Deal. They were popular for the day. Ok. However, 3 bands that out lasted them and have gone on to be 1000 times more successful played before them. That being OZZY, MOTLEY and JUDAS and that's not an opinion... that would be a fact.

5. and the 18 year old dallas native who is requesting pantera hasn't even HEARD of triumph -- because no one in dallas has played any triumph in the last 10 years.

5. Boy... I wonder why?


Look, it was already said once... these are our opinions. I think one way and obviously... others think another way. Now, I did have fun talking about TRIUMPH. I always do. Honestly though.... I have just been having fun. Ya know. Poking the bear.

I hope no one got pissed off.... I didnt. I was just surprised more then anything.

Merry Christmas to everyone. Please be safe if you are traveling.

 

[Neanderpaul]

2. As for this BIGGEST ROCK EVENT that I am suppose to educate myself on? At that time, you didnt have these massive roadshows that you have to day. So, yes... I could see that being the biggest ROCK event of the time. However, before that.... it would have been WOODSTOCK or Altamont Free Concert etc... However, becuz I do not know of this great rock event. I am less of a rocker? Ok.

Nope. But, now we know you're unable to do any research whatsoever. Instead of taking my advice, you have an answer for everything.

Just so you know....300,000 people attended The US Festival's 2nd day. Which is more than ten Ozzfests. Oh, and that was just one day of this 3-day event that you so insolently dismiss. There are two others where bands I'm sure you think also don't matter like The Ramones, U2, The Grateful Dead, the Police & Fleetwood Mac played.

Right now, you're talkin' loud...and sayin' nothin' (Look it up)

Also, 20 years ago... no HEAVY BANDS were really getting any radio play. Of course that quickly changed once Corporations realized there was MONEY in it.

And where did you learn this little tidbit? You do realize that the very show I've been touting for the past two posts was put on by the founders of Apple right? And it lost them 20 million. Of course you do. You know it all.

3. As for this wierd T-shirt issue.... Ladies and gentlemen... This is a FAD. Just like RAPPERS who wear ESKIMO COATS in the middle of summer. Why would someone one do this? Why would the kids in the MALL be wearing this? Is it becuz they have this great interest in ANTARTIC LIFE? No, it's becuz someone on MTV etc... was wearing it. I really don't think there is a MAD RUSH for the record store or online to get or download all these CLASSIC hits of yesteryear.

Do you even stop to listen to what you're typing? If there were no demand, why would Guitar Hero be so popular? Why would they use YYZ? Smoke On The Water? "Play With Me" by Extreme?

You need schoolin' (look it up)

What about the FAD of VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES... with the same thinking regarding T-shirts... there should be MASS CHAOS on the streets. However, study after study has shown that TEEN VIOLENCE has dropped in the last 10 years. This is part of the reason why CALIFORNIA could not pass the VIOLENT VIDEO GAME legislation. Thats not an opinion... thats a fact.

What does this have to do with your inability to accept that you don't know as much as you believe you do about the format you've professed to "have been successful in for some time now?" This is the typical tactic of those who feel cornered in a debate they might be overmatched in. They'd rather get defensive, and divert focus to something else than accept the situation they got themself in.

ALso, let me make something clear... I REALLY enjoy ALL sorts of music. I have a VAST collection of music. Obviously TRIUMPH isn't a part of it. However, it goes way back. However, I have been listening to all sorts of stuff for a long time. I didn't start the other day becuz I bought the T-shirt and just had to have the music.

But, you do show significant, repeated ignorance, and mild disdain for that which you know so little about. And that's a sign of youth. You have a lot to learn. We all do. But, in you it seems very pronounced.

4. Also, as far as the point that was made regarding TRIUMPH and there place on a bill... Come on. Big Deal. They were popular for the day. Ok. However, 3 bands that out lasted them and have gone on to be 1000 times more successful played before them. That being OZZY, MOTLEY and JUDAS and that's not an opinion... that would be a fact.

You completely miss the point. We're talking about programming a theoretical "Hard Rock" station for Dallas. It can be assumed that it would target males, and probably those in the money demos (25-54...cuz I know you won't look it up). You began with an assertion that the band Triumph, who have sold millions of records, and probably safe to assume most before you were born, wouldn't be relevant within the context of that station.

You may want to check your facts though. Triumph has had several top 20 hit records. More than Priest. And radio's about "playin' the hits" isn't it?

Look, it was already said once... these are our opinions. I think one way and obviously... others think another way. Now, I did have fun talking about TRIUMPH. I always do. Honestly though.... I have just been having fun. Ya know. Poking the bear.

Careful what bears you poke...some of them might be sitting behind PD chairs with job openings in Dallas someday.

Just some good, free advice. Enjoy your holiday!

 

[MikeShannon914]

You may want to check your facts though. Triumph has had several top 20 hit records. More than Priest. And radio's about "playin' the hits" isn't it?

Damn, guys, agree to disagree, ok? I'll party with Fozzie anytime. Sometimes the "passion" outweighs the nuts and bolts. And I like Triumph as much as the next guy, but I remember them not getting much airplay outside of The Zoo and Q102, who were both more album rock-leaning in Triumph's era. But what Top 20 records are you speaking of? "Allied Forces" (album) hit #23, and that was about as commercial as Triumph ever got...so that's the highest peak-er they ever had. For singles, it wasn't until WAY past Triumph's prime that they scored with "Somebody's Out There" (from "Sport of Kings") in 1986, but it topped out at #27. By 1986, Kraddick and the teeny-bopper Eagle had hold of that song, so Triumph's "mystique" of the early 80s had already gone the sell-out way of Journey's "Escape" and REO's "Hi Infidelity."

I hung in there with Triumph for most of the 80s, faithfully buying up their albums, even "Sport of Kings"...they were good, but some songs stood way out more than others, and most guys in that 18-24 range then adopted "Magic Power" as their personal anthem, but in the grand scheme, Triumph is NOT the measuring stick you all are making them out to be. But who knows, maybe it's a regional thing, maybe you guys grew up elsewhere and got Triumph in heavy rotation...we didn't.

 

[FOZZIE BEAR]

2. As for this BIGGEST ROCK EVENT that I am suppose to educate myself on? At that time, you didnt have these massive roadshows that you have to day. So, yes... I could see that being the biggest ROCK event of the time. However, before that.... it would have been WOODSTOCK or Altamont Free Concert etc... However, becuz I do not know of this great rock event. I am less of a rocker? Ok.

Nope. But, now we know you're unable to do any research whatsoever. Instead of taking my advice, you have an answer for everything.

Just so you know....300,000 people attended The US Festival's 2nd day. Which is more than ten Ozzfests. Oh, and that was just one day of this 3-day event that you so insolently dismiss. There are two others where bands I'm sure you think also don't matter like The Ramones, U2, The Grateful Dead, the Police & Fleetwood Mac played.

Right now, you're talkin' loud...and sayin' nothin' (Look it up)

Also, 20 years ago... no HEAVY BANDS were really getting any radio play. Of course that quickly changed once Corporations realized there was MONEY in it.

And where did you learn this little tidbit? You do realize that the very show I've been touting for the past two posts was put on by the founders of Apple right? And it lost them 20 million. Of course you do. You know it all.

3. As for this wierd T-shirt issue.... Ladies and gentlemen... This is a FAD. Just like RAPPERS who wear ESKIMO COATS in the middle of summer. Why would someone one do this? Why would the kids in the MALL be wearing this? Is it becuz they have this great interest in ANTARTIC LIFE? No, it's becuz someone on MTV etc... was wearing it. I really don't think there is a MAD RUSH for the record store or online to get or download all these CLASSIC hits of yesteryear.

Do you even stop to listen to what you're typing? If there were no demand, why would Guitar Hero be so popular? Why would they use YYZ? Smoke On The Water? "Play With Me" by Extreme?

You need schoolin' (look it up)

What about the FAD of VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES... with the same thinking regarding T-shirts... there should be MASS CHAOS on the streets. However, study after study has shown that TEEN VIOLENCE has dropped in the last 10 years. This is part of the reason why CALIFORNIA could not pass the VIOLENT VIDEO GAME legislation. Thats not an opinion... thats a fact.

What does this have to do with your inability to accept that you don't know as much as you believe you do about the format you've professed to "have been successful in for some time now?" This is the typical tactic of those who feel cornered in a debate they might be overmatched in. They'd rather get defensive, and divert focus to something else than accept the situation they got themself in.

ALso, let me make something clear... I REALLY enjoy ALL sorts of music. I have a VAST collection of music. Obviously TRIUMPH isn't a part of it. However, it goes way back. However, I have been listening to all sorts of stuff for a long time. I didn't start the other day becuz I bought the T-shirt and just had to have the music.

But, you do show significant, repeated ignorance, and mild disdain for that which you know so little about. And that's a sign of youth. You have a lot to learn. We all do. But, in you it seems very pronounced.

4. Also, as far as the point that was made regarding TRIUMPH and there place on a bill... Come on. Big Deal. They were popular for the day. Ok. However, 3 bands that out lasted them and have gone on to be 1000 times more successful played before them. That being OZZY, MOTLEY and JUDAS and that's not an opinion... that would be a fact.

You completely miss the point. We're talking about programming a theoretical "Hard Rock" station for Dallas. It can be assumed that it would target males, and probably those in the money demos (25-54...cuz I know you won't look it up). You began with an assertion that the band Triumph, who have sold millions of records, and probably safe to assume most before you were born, wouldn't be relevant within the context of that station.

You may want to check your facts though. Triumph has had several top 20 hit records. More than Priest. And radio's about "playin' the hits" isn't it?

Look, it was already said once... these are our opinions. I think one way and obviously... others think another way. Now, I did have fun talking about TRIUMPH. I always do. Honestly though.... I have just been having fun. Ya know. Poking the bear.

Careful what bears you poke...some of them might be sitting behind PD chairs with job openings in Dallas someday.

Just some good, free advice. Enjoy your holiday!

Thank you so much. I know nothing and you know all. There you go.

POKE, POKE.

 

[Neanderpaul]

You may want to check your facts though. Triumph has had several top 20 hit records. More than Priest. And radio's about "playin' the hits" isn't it?

Damn, guys, agree to disagree, ok? I'll party with Fozzie anytime. Sometimes the "passion" outweighs the nuts and bolts. And I like Triumph as much as the next guy, but I remember them not getting much airplay outside of The Zoo and Q102, who were both more album rock-leaning in Triumph's era. But what Top 20 records are you speaking of?

"Magic Power" reportedly went top ten in 1981 (#8...I was 13 can't provide the Cashbox chart)
"Fight The Good Fight" was #18
"World Of Fantasy" was also a top 20 track in '83

There's also "Lay It On The Line" "Follow Your Heart" "Somebody's Out There" "I Can Survive" & "Hold On"

All viable songs for a 25-54 targeted Rock station. I'm not saying they were a core artist, or they should rotate 36 times a week. But those tracks are absolute examples of song that will never test, but were part of that 25-54s world. Peripheral or not. It's not the same 3 Rush songs, 2 Thin Lizzy songs, 6 Zeppelin songs etc. Real depth can be achieved. the P1s will LOVE the fact that it's different (finally) and the cume won't run. It's like making currents familiar. Why not? If you shape your sound hour properly, you can absolutely create a Rock station that's unique and compelling without having to draw from the same 300 songs we've been using for 25 years.

Somebody will eventually try it. We keep hearing "content is king" and the suits think they listen for music. Why not create compelling library content with something perceived as "fresh?"

ALL of those Triumph songs are more interesting to me as a Rock fan than ANY Live, Collective Soul, Seven Mary Three, etc.

Again...just my opinion.

 

[Neanderpaul]

Thank you so much. I know nothing and you know all. There you go.

POKE, POKE.

Good Luck In Your Career.

 

[theshadow]

But who knows, maybe it's a regional thing, maybe you guys grew up elsewhere and got Triumph in heavy rotation...we didn't.

I think what it all boils down to is folks that like JUST Classic Rock (and
generally in the 25-54 demo), and folks that enjoy JUST modern rock/
alternative/new/whatever you want to call "rock of today" (generally the
younger demo 18-34) .... The younger crowd doesn't realize the bands
they are jammin' to today were influenced by bands of yesteryear, and
many of this stuff that kids think today that is "new" musicwise was
done a long time ago. Problem is, they are NOT getting educated on
that. I overheard a conversation at work the other day. Two gals were
talking about country music - one about fourtyish, and the other about
23ish. The 23 yr old had NEVER heard of Barbara Mandrell!!!. Obviously
the 40 yr old was dumbfounded. That's like saying "yeah, I love Rascal
Flats, but who is Willie Nelson?"

Can modern rock be merged with classic rock?. I don't know. Personally I
think it's a train wreck, but the "new" Eagle is attempting to do just that.
Somehow I just don't think Korn or Linkin Park followed by Van Halen, or
the Who sounds very good. I suppose only time will tell. But just like the
young guy that is jamming to Puddle of Mud and tunes out when that
Def Leppard tune comes on, I personally will be the Eagle listener that will
crank it up when I hear a Def Leppard tune, but will immediately tune out
and switch the station if Puddle of Mud or Korn comes on.

Just my opinion, like everyone has an @#$%!&*

And yes...., I still think Pantera stinks... Triumph & Rush
(and all other Canadian bands) kick their Arlington butts ...;D

 

[wombat]

5. and the 18 year old dallas native who is requesting pantera hasn't even HEARD of triumph -- because no one in dallas has played any triumph in the last 10 years.

5. Boy... I wonder why?

wait, wait, i know the answer to this one!! because dallas/fort worth, a top 5 market, has amazingly horrific radio stations!

 

[grantchester]

Triumph! They were a Canadian bar-band, charging $500 a show in the mid-70's. KMAC/KISS dee-jays Joe Anthony and Lou Roney booked them to play San Antonio, then played their album. A lot. They caught on, at least in S.A. Joe and Lou did the same thing with Moxy, Budgie, April Wine, Judas Priest and about a dozen other bands the consultants never heard of. They made some cash. Then the local rock promoter told them he'd go to the FCC, and accuse them of playing un-paid commercials. Then the Municipal Auditorium burned down. An era ended, but the bands still linger.
The problem with rock is that the audience has fragmented. Some like Yes and Genesis. Some like Pantera and Megadeath. Some like the Grateful Dead. Some like Dan Fogelberg. Then there's Rick Springfield. And when are we going to hear Bubblepuppy again?
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