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RADIO TRUTH said:
I vote "drinking game" for every time RT uses the word *I*
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I vote "drinking game" for every time RT uses the word *I*
More addressing the above.....
In response to Neanderpaul, I have worked with and known some of the djs listed above. I will tell you what they did for show prep. They read everything they could so they could do humor based on current events, Dan Ingram was the best dj ever at doing current event based humor. They did it adlib. They didn't prewrite anything. Sometimes these djs would subscribe to some of the comedy sheet joke services such as Electric Weenie, but, they never read them verbatim but, used them as a basis to do their own material. There are a few exceptions. Bwana Johnny used to read the jokes verbatim and give the name of the service, the issue and page number on the air, maybe a little too in radio. Dr. Don Rose used to average about 180 one liners with dropins on a 3 hour show on WFIL, WQXI or KFRC, but Dr. Don Rose was very slick and did the show by himself. Today's djs
have no concept of doing humor on a music show over the intros of songs. The next funny line I hear in afternoon drive over a song on KLUV will be the first. Show me any dj today who can do consistent adlib humor on a music show and I might reconsider my feelings. I don't count morning drive zoo teams. Again, a morning drive guy like Dr. Don Rose could do more humor in one 3 hour show than all the morning zoo teams in DFW combined.
In response to Neanderpaul, I have worked with and known some of the djs listed above. I will tell you what they did for show prep. They read everything they could so they could do humor based on current events, Dan Ingram was the best dj ever at doing current event based humor. They did it adlib. They didn't prewrite anything. Sometimes these djs would subscribe to some of the comedy sheet joke services such as Electric Weenie, but, they never read them verbatim but, used them as a basis to do their own material. There are a few exceptions. Bwana Johnny used to read the jokes verbatim and give the name of the service, the issue and page number on the air, maybe a little too in radio. Dr. Don Rose used to average about 180 one liners with dropins on a 3 hour show on WFIL, WQXI or KFRC, but Dr. Don Rose was very slick and did the show by himself. Today's djs
have no concept of doing humor on a music show over the intros of songs. The next funny line I hear in afternoon drive over a song on KLUV will be the first. Show me any dj today who can do consistent adlib humor on a music show and I might reconsider my feelings. I don't count morning drive zoo teams. Again, a morning drive guy like Dr. Don Rose could do more humor in one 3 hour show than all the morning zoo teams in DFW combined.
Even more addressing the above.....
In response to Neanderpaul about my business.....
If and when I feel there is a valid reason to give more information about my broadcast service that has had the publicity, I will consider it. It does not matter to me either way whether anyone on here thinks that I am real or phony. I orchestrate my own publicity. This is all about business my friends. All I can tell you is that I am doing something that is growing that local television and newspapers and network television have been very responsive to. We are now taking it to the next level.
In response to Neanderpaul about my business.....
If and when I feel there is a valid reason to give more information about my broadcast service that has had the publicity, I will consider it. It does not matter to me either way whether anyone on here thinks that I am real or phony. I orchestrate my own publicity. This is all about business my friends. All I can tell you is that I am doing something that is growing that local television and newspapers and network television have been very responsive to. We are now taking it to the next level.
One other thing in response to Neanderpaul.....
The music today sucks in comparison to the Beatles, Beach Boys, Four Seasons, Doo Wop Music and Motown. I was never that crazy about Led Zeppelin.
The music today sucks in comparison to the Beatles, Beach Boys, Four Seasons, Doo Wop Music and Motown. I was never that crazy about Led Zeppelin.
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olemissy said:
Hmmm did you change nicks? Or are you who I think you are?
Drinking game it is 
RADIO TRUTH said:
Just because they didn't write anything down, doesn't mean it wasn't rehearsed. You might have a little confusion with regard to adlibbing. Adlibbing is what you do when you didn't pre-read, and you have the ability to hear something for the first time and reflex riff on it. Anything read in advance is preparing. Not adlibbing. Reading the paper this morning for this afternoon's show gives me a chance to prepare an angle for a bit. I won't write it down, but I'll certainly have it ready. The real skill with these personalities is that they have you believing it was all spontaneous. Which only enhances their legends. The fact that 30 years later, you extoll their virtues is a testament to their hard work.
That's not to say it doesn't happen on a daily basis on stations across America. You're considerably consistant in your disdain for the current state of Dallas radio. The Eagle doesn't even have a staff yet, and you're already attempting to cast negativity over them. Seems sort of bitter.
RADIO TRUTH said:
All personal taste aside, Led Zeppelin are generally considered the 2nd greatest Rock band of all time (behind the Beatles). I don't need to go into specific detail other than several million people registered to try to get tickets to their reunion show two weeks ago, they've sold almost 400 million records, and actually their latest compilation is the 2nd best selling Rock album in America this week.
It suffices to say, your opinion is in the vast minority on this point.
It's not about what you like. It's about what the audience wants. And right now, whether we like it, or not, the audience likes what it hears on radio across America. We, in the industry can never listen objectively again. We all cry "the sky is falling," but the audience hasn't done that yet. 93% of Americans are satisfied with what they hear every day. A 7% drop is a pretty small percentage. Compare that to what other media are losing. Network TV's losses to Cable & Satellite dwarf radio. Newspaper circulations are down a much larger percentage as Americans get the instant updates via cell phones and the 'net.
Until audience share losses become significant, radio won't need to adjust. It's up to those doing the gig daily, to ensure that we don't lose any more. And that can be done by doing a good job, and realizing that no break is a throw-away. And continuing to play what the audience wants.
....like Led Zeppelin.
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theshadow
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RADIO TRUTH said:
Hah, Hah! ;D
How many times have we heard THAT boys and girls
in medialand???.... :
My favorite quote (INSERT YOUR FAVORITE PD OR STATION
MANAGER SAYING THIS) "We're changing format and taking it to the
NEXT LEVEL. Don't worry. We're retaining our staff, so
everyone is safe. We've thoroughly researched this format,
and have found a "hole" and "need" for this format in this
market".
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Neanderpaul said:
Agreed....halfway....
Perhaps NOT having an on-air staff
might be better....
Just shut the hell up and rock out.......
theshadow said:
Translation= "get your resume' updated, prepare a new aircheck, and don't make any long-term financial commitments to this area."
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Neanderpaul said:
We don't need Lex & Terry on The Eagle, they need to go in a different direction. And besides L&T are better off staying at The Edge because they're raking in the money for that staion according to Edge sales. What do you think??
charles123 said:
Traditionally L&T are on mainstream stations are they not? obviously Dallas is their biggest outlet. But they're on a fringe cuming station.
Don't be surprised if they get moved over. Seems economically viable.
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VERITAS DE VOCE
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KEGL doesn't need a retread doing morning drive, namely one that blows like L&T. Big Brother CC doesn't do much of anything, except research. That I know. They have volumes, albeit of crap, that thread facts with opinions. This market is chock full of sucky morning shows. Revisiting one is certainly not what the "NEW KEGL" needs.
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Radio Truth speaks volumes espcially about Dr. Rose. The quality of a true air talent is diminishing in scope thanks to music intensive repetiveness more spots more sales, less talk,less creativity,and humor that is actually funny. Its great the Eagle is back,however don't expect it to last. The targeted demo is fickled,and the support for the station will take it a long while to grow,and impatient region vp's in todays broadcast world do not have patience. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2009 "sunny would reappear" it had better ratings than the Eagle. I wish the Eagle well, but if you slap a warm body in there ,increase the bass,scream and sound artifically with it,you set yourself up for failure.
Right, it's not the jocks at fault, when it comes to lack of creativity... It's corporate management's fault for stifling creativity. So badmouthing talent isn't going to change anything. It isn't their fault they can't toe the line some.
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Hopefully CC will move Lex & Terry to the Eagle... they just sound real out of place on the Edge.
Let's talk about adlibbing. If you are not reading something verbatim, you are adlibbing. The 60s djs did much reading but, also got current information in various other ways. They did not rehearse or write it down. They kept it in their heads and used it as they needed it. This is adlibbing. Nothing was rehearsed. They tied what was going on in society to the music and commercials. It is a lost art. After three generations of liner card readers, djs today have no clue and no training how to do this kind of personality. Current young djs are even to young to have grown up listening to this kind of personality. When was the last time you heard a current dj say something funny about a song or a commercial? The answer is never. The ability to play off of the music and commercials is totally extinct in today's radio. Getting today's djs to be able to do that would take a totally different mindset and total retraining. Today's djs don't think like that. When is the last time you heard a current dj have a conversation with dropins the way Rick Shaw had a running conversation with the Lone Ranger and Tonto on WQAM. This is a lost skill and a lost art and today's dj would be clueless even attempting to do it. Current morning drive radio is no better. I don't hear anything really funny with really great timing.....just a lead guy, a designated laugher chick and some other lackey babbling on. They are usually out of things to say after :15 seconds of the turning on the mic. The other 21 hours of the current broadcast day is liner cards, promos, going song to song with no talking, and definitely no humor. This is true for all current radio stations. Anyone in current radio, show me you can adlib, show me you can do off the cuff humor, show me you can have a running conversation with dropins and we will revisit this again.
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